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Box A Rox
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Here are some FACTS from a group that specializes in FACTS...
PolitiFact:


                                    

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Boehner said the Affordable Care Act so far has caused
"a net loss of people with health insurance." Boehner's logic is based on
reports that about 5 million had their insurance policies canceled while 4.2
million signed up for policies on the state and federal marketplaces. It's
bad math for two reasons.

First, most of the people who lost their insurance have seen those policies
extended
to them through an administrative fix, or they received new
coverage through their previous insurer
or they bought a new plan.

Second, he ignores the millions of people who bought coverage off the
exchange, those who gained coverage through Medicaid and the under-26
crowd able to remain on their parents' insurance.


We don't yet know how many new Americans will ultimately gain coverage.
But every indicator right now suggests it will be a net gain.
We rate Boehner's statement False.


http://www.politifact.com/trut.....re-uninsured-obamac/


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Show us hard numbers Boxy.

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We don't yet know how many new Americans will ultimately gain coverage.
But every indicator right now suggests it will be a net gain.


Politifact has no idea either, but like you the 'indicator' is "The White House says..."

How many illegal changes have been made now again?

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First, most of the people who lost their insurance have seen those policies
extended to them through an administrative fix


Oh right....Administrative fix He has a pen and a phone




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Amazing how many Right Wingers will spend so much energy to keep Americans from having Health
Care.

It's the same old Rabid Right  "I got mine, screw everyone else"!  


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Amazing how many Right Wingers will spend so much energy to keep Americans from having Health
Care.

It's the same old Rabid Right  "I got mine, screw everyone else"!  


Ahhh....Those sweet, sweet words.

It does my heart good to see you utter these words of surrender, that all you have left is the name calling.

Sucks that you don't have any real numbers to back up anything you say.

Do you even remember the reasoning behind getting the ACA passed, Boxy?





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It does my heart good to see you utter these words of surrender, that all you have left is the name calling.

Sucks that you don't have any real numbers to back up anything you say.

Do you even remember the reasoning behind getting the ACA passed, Boxy?



Real numbers??? 6 MILLION REAL ENOUGH FOR YOU?

The number is somewhere over 6 million with a few days to go that may add many more.
REAL NUMBERS will be counted once the enrollment is complete, unless you think that it's somehow
important to count the numbers before the enrollment period ends???

We are still waiting for a link containing REAL NUMBERS from Shadow's post:
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6 million people lost their health care and 6 million signed up for ACA a net gain of 0.

The REPUBLICAN  "6 million people who lost their health care" is about as
factual as G Worst Bush's "Iraq WMD'S".  


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Definition of a Republican:
“Someone who can't enjoy a meal unless they know that someone else is starving.”

The same appears to be true of ObamaCare:
"A Republican can't enjoy their Health Care unless they know that someone else has none"


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Amazing how many Right Wingers will spend so much energy to keep Americans from having Health
Care.


...It's insurance, not health care.

Amazing how lefties suddenly want Americans to boost corporate insurance profits.


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...It's insurance, not health care.

Amazing how lefties suddenly want Americans to boost corporate insurance profits.


The "LEFTIES" wanted "single payer" (or a blend of single payer and private corp.)  
It's the Right that forced us to insure through profit making corporations.  

I still have hope that single payer will be the next step in ObamaCare.


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MacIver News Service | December 16, 2013

[Madison, Wisc...] More than 5.6 million individuals and families across the country have had their health insurance policies cancelled because they are not in compliance with the regulations of the Affordable Care Act (ACA) according to a new report by the Liberty Foundation.

In a report released on Friday, the Liberty Foundation found that the President's promise, "If you like your health insurance, you can keep it," was false. California and New Jersey residents were hit the hardest, with one million and 800,000 cancellation notices respectively.  Post 1285 Box
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OK Box, out of your 6 million how many signed up for Medicaid, How many were previously uninsured, how many signed up because they lost their health care due to Obamacare, how many have really paid for their plans and just visited the site????
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MacIver News Service | December 16, 2013

[Madison, Wisc...] More than 5.6 million individuals and families across the country have had their health insurance policies cancelled because they are not in compliance with the regulations of the Affordable Care Act (ACA) according to a new report by the Liberty Foundation.

In a report released on Friday, the Liberty Foundation found that the President's promise, "If you like your health insurance, you can keep it," was false. California and New Jersey residents were hit the hardest, with one million and 800,000 cancellation notices respectively.  Post 1285 Box


So just WHO is Shadow's source?
Who is it that Shadow believes, while he refuses to believe the MSM, or the US President?

"The Liberty Foundation".  Sounds very patriotic.  What is their goal?  Do they possibly have a
Right Wing Bias?

Lets ask them... from their site:
"As we move forward in the spirit of federalism, the power of the states over the
federal government must be unleashed to achieve our common goals."


LOL!      They are about as 'fair and balanced' as FoxSnooze!  


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MacIver News Service | December 16, 2013

[Madison, Wisc...] More than 5.6 million individuals and families across the country have had their health insurance policies cancelled because they are not in compliance with the regulations of the Affordable Care Act (ACA) according to a new report by the Liberty Foundation.

In a report released on Friday, the Liberty Foundation found that the President's promise, "If you like your health insurance, you can keep it," was false. California and New Jersey residents were hit the hardest, with one million and 800,000 cancellation notices respectively.  Post 1285 Box

Again... who is Shadow's source???  And who is "MacIver News Servie"?


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The John K. MacIver Institute for Public Policy is a Wisconsin-based think
tank and a member of the State Policy Network (SPN). According to its website,
the MacIver Institute promotes free markets, individual freedom, personal responsibility,
and limited government. According to One Wisconsin Now, the MacIver Institute is
"a pro-corporate organization founded in 2009 to advance conservative ideas and values.


Once again Shadow... If all you read is Right Wing BS, all you'll know is Right Wing BS!  


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After the lies that were told to us by this administration your total belief in everything they say does not make your statements anymore credible.
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After the lies that were told to us by this administration your total belief in everything they say does not make your statements anymore credible.


So far, everyone, even the president has only "ESTIMATES".  No one has the exact data... yet you
believe the Far Right view and post falsehoods as if they were facts.

FactCheck.Org doesn't represent any political view... I'll stick with their opinion until
the actual data is known.


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The "LEFTIES" wanted "single payer" (or a blend of single payer and private corp.)  
It's the Right that forced us to insure through profit making corporations.  

I still have hope that single payer will be the next step in ObamaCare.


Only democrats voted for the ACA.  They could have passed single payer, they had the votes.  "Righties" couldn't have stopped it.


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