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Academy Award winning actor Jeremy Irons said Wednesday that while he doesn't have much of a strong opinion either way on same-sex marriage, he believes it poses interesting questions, including whether allowing same-sex marriage would open the door for interfamilial relationships.

"Could a father not marry his son?" Irons asked HuffPost Live host Josh Zepps. Irons argued that "it's not incest between men" because "incest is there to protect us from inbreeding, but men don't breed," and wondered whether same-sex marriage might allow fathers to pass on their estates to their sons without being taxed.

"It seems to me that now they're fighting for the name," Irons said of advocates for same-sex marriage as opposed to civil unions. "I worry that it means somehow we debase, or we change, what marriage is. I just worry about that."

Irons reiterated that he "[doesn't] have a strong feeling either way" on same-sex marriage, and said that he "[wishes] everybody who's living with one other person the best of luck in the world, because it's fantastic."

"Living with another animal, whether it be a husband or a dog, is great," he said. "It's lovely to have someone to love. I don't think sex matters at all. What it's called doesn't matter at all."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/03/jeremy-irons-on-gay-marri_n_3009495.html


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if this would create a tax break for the taxpayer and less money for the Gov almight....it won't fly.

same sex marriage is a money grab for both gov almighty and the scum bad attorneys.


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if this would create a tax break for the taxpayer and less money for the Gov almight....it won't fly.

same sex marriage is a money grab for both gov almighty and the scum bad attorneys.


How does the leftist make the argument without violating their own "you can legislate morality" argument they are using to push the gay marriage agenda?  Any argument other than advocating for it makes them the naked statist they are. .


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How does the leftist make the argument without violating their own "you can legislate morality"
argument they are using to push the gay marriage agenda?  Any argument other than advocating
for it makes them the naked statist they are. .




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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Is that self affirmation?


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Is that self affirmation?


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Cissy baited you to show a naked pic of yourself and you took the bait.


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Cissy baited you to show a naked pic of yourself and you took the bait.


I think Cis likes me!!!  



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I think Cis likes me BUTT NAKED!!!   





JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Another bigoted pseudo argument against gay marriage... Why aren't straight men f'in their daughters to get the benefits passed down? hmmm because it's crazy and sick. Guess what same for gay people, only an a complete bigoted moron can't figure that out. I ask all straight men using these shallow hate filled arguments to really stand up for what they believe and divorce their wives, end this shame of government marriage.
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Another bigoted pseudo argument against gay marriage... Why aren't straight men f'in their daughters to get the benefits passed down? hmmm because it's crazy and sick. Guess what same for gay people, only an a complete bigoted moron can't figure that out. I ask all straight men using these shallow hate filled arguments to really stand up for what they believe and divorce their wives, end this shame of government marriage.


Not a pseudo argument, it's the unintended consequences.  Lawyers will have a field day with it.  

Legal marriage is just a contract that allows certain legal benefits, and under that contract you can pass your estate to your spouse tax free.  If you don't think this will happen, you don't understand human nature.


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Another bigoted pseudo argument against gay marriage


So an unforeseen and legit question is seen as bigoted?

Oh right, leftists don't like it when questions arise about issues they support.

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Why aren't straight men f'in their daughters to get the benefits passed down?


Maybe if you actually read the  f'in story you would answer your own f'in question....

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Irons argued that "it's not incest between men" because "incest is there to protect us from inbreeding, but men don't breed"



Oh and yeah it is sick....But who says daddy has to be banging junior? Like I said, if you bothered to read the story, it's about getting around a 'tax'




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they sell gay marriage as 'not sexual' and all about 'taxes/benefits'......why  not look at ALL unions in the same light?

And as 'sick' as daddy marrying their kid may sound......so did same sex marriage/unions/relationships sound just as sick 'back in the day'......yes? in fact it was considered a mental illness/morally wrong....sodomy...

those folks who still believe that way, are called bigoted.

so what makes those who disagree with a parent/child marriage any different?

Can a parent marry an adopted kid? I believe woody allen already broke thru that barrier.....yes?


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Not a pseudo argument, it's the unintended consequences.  Lawyers will have a field day with it.  

Legal marriage is just a contract that allows certain legal benefits, and under that contract you can pass your estate to your spouse tax free.  If you don't think this will happen, you don't understand human nature.


Lawyers are the big winners in the gay marriage issue.

They will make millions handling the divorces.

Plus custody of the kids, oh boy. It's a whole new deal.

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I can't wait until the bigamist lobby throws their two cents into the new unregulated marriage arena.

I want to see who get's the honor of being the first 3 way marriage.

I would hate to be a guy who gets divorced from 4 or 5 wives and there are children involved.

There's gonna be some good reality TV when the multi-marriages kick in.

Imagine paying child support for 17 kids.
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