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Box A Rox
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John Boner Quotes Lincoln... Sorta'

In a memo Thursday designed to rally his Republican caucus, House Speaker John Boehner
invoked Abraham Lincoln's admonition about government debt:

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"Government debt is a system not only ruinous while it lasts, but one that must soon
fail and leave us destitute. An individual who undertakes to live by borrowing, soon finds his
original means devoured by interest, and next no one left to borrow from – so must it be with
a government.”


For some reason   Speaker Boner left out the next line in Lincoln's speech:

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"We repeat, then, that a tariff sufficient for revenue, or a direct tax, must soon
be resorted to; and, indeed, we believe this alternative is now denied by no one."




The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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I would agree with Lincoln on a direct tax(for national defense) but only if was to be paid with hard currency and not fiat currency issued by a private central bank with interest.  Boner also didn't mention Lincoln's attempt to circulate government issued currency in the form of the Greenback.  It ultimately cost him his life


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I would agree with Lincoln on a direct tax(for national defense) but only if was to be paid with hard currency and not fiat currency issued by a private central bank with interest.  Boner also didn't mention Lincoln's attempt to circulate government issued currency in the form of the Greenback.  It ultimately cost him his life


Many knew better and that is why they hoarded all their silver and gold, even coppers were becoming scarce and that is why many made their own tokens


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Here is one from Schenectady



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Is box now in support of ending the FED?  Lincoln would be.


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Boner also didn't mention Lincoln's attempt to circulate government issued currency in the form of the Greenback. It ultimately cost him his life

Sounds like something Glenn Beck would say!  
More Fractured Fairy Tails as History.
Sure, why not!
Kennedy was shot because he was going to introduce jelly beans as US currency.  



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Sounds like something Glenn Beck would say!  
More Fractured Fairy Tails as History.
Sure, why not!
Kennedy was shot because he was going to introduce jelly beans as US currency.  



No, it was Gerald McGreer not Glenn Beck.  Do you even know what the Greenback was?


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  Do you even know what the Greenback was?


Give him a minute as he looks it up as if he knew



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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I would agree with Lincoln on a direct tax(for national defense) but only if was to be paid with hard currency and not fiat currency issued by a private central bank with interest.  Boner also didn't mention Lincoln's attempt to circulate government issued currency in the form of the Greenback.  It ultimately cost him his life


That is a fair point. Taxes should only be on real money.

Government spending should be limited to spending only taxes actually collected.

The government should not be allowed credit, unless directly approved by the voters.

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Kennedy was shot because he was going to introduce jelly beans as US currency.  



No, it was for refusing to accept the plans to attack Cuba under a false flag action.

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