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joebxr
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I said nothing of a cover-up.  I clearly pointed out that the victim of the shooting was arrested and the perpetrators of the shooting have not.  So of the people involved in the incident - the gun shot victim was charged and detained, and I have yet to read if the shooter was charged and detained.  No conspiracy, that's the facts as reported.  

Again, if at my place of business a 15 year old nearly runs me over with a car in the parking lot, BUT DOESN'T, can I fire bullets into his car and not be detained and charged with a crime?


You're right...you didn't say cover-up...you chose words that would lead people to believe it was a cover-up
as I quoted and commentd: "...give us time to concoct a story to justify it."....if that isn't another way to say cover-up

You have no idea what position the guards are in at this point
IE. leave pending final investigation; weapons confiscated; etc.
Just becuase it hasn't been reported what their status is, you try and make it seem one sided...all victim!
I again try to see both sides...WAITING FOR MORE INFORMATION AND NOT SUPOSITION!!!

He didn't "nearly" anything...he struck the guard!


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That's a long stretch assumption...how could you say they even knew he had a car....PULEEZE!!!!!
Reports (maybe inaccurate) said he got in "a" car.....onlyh indication it might have been his (and not a good indicator) is that he drove it to his house.
Very likely could have been a stolen car to begin with!


He wasn't charged with a stolen car, so your good indicator is malfunctioning.

Last time I heard, it isn't illegal to walk into a parking lot and get your car.

Being chased by gun nuts, who wouldn't flee.

And once again, why does a product safety administration building need armed guards?

To attack anyone who enters their lot.

We will only get the authorities version since the kid is a kid.

Not a terrorist, assassin, or Al Queda agent sent to spy on food sample testers.

Is every government building now an armed guard zone?

Even when next to a school?

There still exists a presumption of innocence in this country, though the tramplers could care less.

Shoot first, suspicious kid in the parking lot, unleash deadly force, on a kid.



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He didn't "nearly" anything...he struck the guard!


You have all the facts from one side and it's conclusive!

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Employee Manual 101 for Security guards, You are a "GUARD" no right to use deadly force against teens in car,
get plate# step out of the way, No. 1 rule call "911"

Two armed guards shooting at a fleeing vehicle next to a secondary school at 7am.

Just a suspicious kid.

Trayvon Martin.

Zimmerman Security.

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You have all the facts from one side and it's conclusive!



You have same facts I do but make preposterous assumptions.  I choose not to assume, and only print the facts.

And if yo uwant to quote me to try and degrade my comments, at least have the courtesy to post the entire quote before you do it...becuase it shows you once again are WRONG!!!!
"Very likely could have been a stolen car to begin with!  Why can't we make that assumption?  It's just as accurate as your point that they knew he had a car!!!! "


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Employee Manual 101 for Security guards, You are a "GUARD" no right to use deadly force against teens in car,
get plate# step out of the way, No. 1 rule call "911"

Two armed guards shooting at a fleeing vehicle next to a secondary school at 7am.

Just a suspicious kid.

Trayvon Martin.

Zimmerman Security.



BLAH BLAH BLAH
Distortion at it's best...

Trying to have a civil discussion of merit and substance with you is useless....GOOD NIGHT....I have better things to do than play your
silly childish games.  Stay miserable and watch out for the space aliens while you are at it.  They're everywhere!!!!


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Just becuase it hasn't been reported what their status is, you try and make it seem one sided...all victim!
I again try to see both sides...WAITING FOR MORE INFORMATION AND NOT SUPOSITION!!!


Ok, then the reporting is slanted.  The fact that the reporters are not even reporting the status of the guards is deceiving.  Don't report the story if you aren't going to report all the facts.  Not one reporter thought to ask the status of the shooter?

Again, no cover-up, just lack of skepticism.  The two articles here and all that I googled report no status on the guard that shot a 15 year old.  Why?


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Police said a 15-year-old boy behind the wheel sped out of the parking lot and got involved in an accident. The
teen left the accident scene and headed to a nearby residence. When police showed up there, they located the
black Chrysler 300 from the shooting incident, then went inside where they found the injured suspect.

“Found a 15-year-old male who had a gunshot wound in the foot,” Ireton said. “Minor facial wounds. Took him
into custody.”

A Northshore School District alternative high school is right across the street from the FDA building. Many
students saw what happened on their way to class.


“He gets in the car and all these security guards start pointing their guns and are, like, get down, get down
on the ground,” Baily Mills said. “He just got in the car and started driving and they started shooting their guns
at the car.”


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“He gets in the car and all these security guards start pointing their guns and are, like, get down, get down
on the ground,” Baily Mills said. “He just got in the car and started driving and they started shooting their guns
at the car.”


Read more: http://q13fox.com/2013/02/08/o.....thell/#ixzz2KYSYiY4P
Read more at http://q13fox.com/2013/02/08/o.....#jf2LG93CMQL9Vo96.99


Ahhhh...It appears by this witness statement that he didn't comply to the demands of arm security guards.  So not only must you comply with demands from law enforcement but also security guards, or you will be shot.  God Bless America!!!


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Police said a 15-year-old boy behind the wheel sped out of the parking lot and got involved in an accident. The
teen left the accident scene and headed to a nearby residence. When police showed up there, they located the
black Chrysler 300 from the shooting incident, then went inside where they found the injured suspect.

“Found a 15-year-old male who had a gunshot wound in the foot,” Ireton said. “Minor facial wounds. Took him
into custody.”

A Northshore School District alternative high school is right across the street from the FDA building. Many
students saw what happened on their way to class.


“He gets in the car and all these security guards start pointing their guns and are, like, get down, get down
on the ground,” Baily Mills said. “He just got in the car and started driving and they started shooting their guns
at the car.”


Read more: http://q13fox.com/2013/02/08/o.....thell/#ixzz2KYSYiY4P
Read more at http://q13fox.com/2013/02/08/o.....#jf2LG93CMQL9Vo96.99


You conveiently left off this part that the articles starts with:
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Snohomish County Sheriff’s Office spokeswoman Shari Ireton said, “As security officers approached that vehicle,
the suspect backed that vehicle into one of the security officers. Security officers drew their weapons, fired shots at the vehicle. The vehicle left.”
which is what I said earlier.


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Originally published Friday, February 8, 2013 at 9:08 PM

Teenager shot by guard at FDA lab in Bothell

A 15-year-old boy was shot in the foot after he struck a security guard with a car at a Food and Drug Administration labin Bothell on Friday morning.

By Christine Clarridge and Sarah Freishtat
A 15-year-old boy was shot in the foot after the car he was driving struck a security guard at a Food and Drug Administration lab in Bothell on Friday morning, according to police.

The boy was treated and released from a Kirkland hospital and booked into Denney Juvenile Justice Center in Everett on investigation of second-degree assault, according to the Snohomish County Sheriff’s Office.

The incident started around 7 a.m. when two armed guards who provide security to the lab through a contract with Homeland Security’s Federal Protective Service reported that they were contacting a suspicious person in the parking lot, police said.

The individual fled on foot, then returned to the parking lot in the 22200 block of 23rd Drive Southeast, got into a car and struck at least one of the guards while backing up, according to Shari Ireton, a spokeswoman for the Sheriff’s Office.

At least one of the guards fired at the vehicle, Ireton said. She did not say how many shots were fired. She said their injuries were minor.

The teen drove toward home, she said, but was involved in a noninjury accident at 228th Street Southeast and Highway 527, about a mile away.

The boy was tracked to his house by Bothell police using information provided by the guards about the vehicle, police said.

The boy was treated at Evergreen Hospital Medical Center in Kirkland before he was taken into custody.

Leanna Albrecht, a spokeswoman for the Northshore School District, said the teen is a student at the Secondary Academy for Success, an alternative high school that is adjacent to the FDA building. The school was in a modified lockdown while some students were questioned by police.

The school and the FDA building — where samples of products are analyzed for safety and compliance with regulations — are separated by a fence.

Albrecht said there’s no history of problems between students and the FDA.

Investigators have not said how the 15-year-old came to be driving or what he did to draw attention from the security guards.

A student at Secondary Academy for Success told KING-TV it is “blatantly stupid” for the teen to go there because students have been told the FDA parking lot is off-limits.

The Snohomish County Multi-Agency Response Team will be leading the investigation in partnership with homeland security.

Jacqueline C. Yost, spokeswoman for Federal Protective Services, said,

“FPS is working with local law enforcement to investigate the incident.”


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You conveiently left off this part that the articles starts with:
which is what I said earlier.


Doesn't change the part that indicates the guards surrounded the car with guns drawn.  It appears that the 15 year old didn't seek out the guards to assault them.  He drove the vehicle to escape the guards lethal threats of violence.  

Does he not have the right to protect himself from threats of violence?  It sounds like the guard sought the boy out and threatened him with violence, not visa versa.


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Doesn't change the part that indicates the guards surrounded the car with guns drawn.  It appears that the 15 year old didn't seek out the guards to assault them.  He drove the vehicle to escape the guards lethal threats of violence.  

Does he not have the right to protect himself from threats of violence?  It sounds like the guard sought the boy out and threatened him with violence, not visa versa.


I agree. Plus deadly force is inappropriate in front of a school!

WTF?

Maybe if they were chasing a known murderer, but a suspicious kid?

Nope, totally inappropriate.

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Doesn't change the part that indicates the guards surrounded the car with guns drawn.  It appears that the 15 year old didn't seek out the guards to assault them.  He drove the vehicle to escape the guards lethal threats of violence.  

Does he not have the right to protect himself from threats of violence?  It sounds like the guard sought the boy out and threatened him with violence, not visa versa.

"surounded"...luv that embellishment.
Protect himself from vilence...did you not read the articles...HE WAS THE ONE THAT ACTED WITH VIOLENCE! 3,000lb assault weapon!!!!!



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...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

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