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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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A biased "reporter"..(I use that term loosely, my 12 year old nephew could produce a better video) reviewing a biased report from the gas industry...That's 7 minutes I'll never get back


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there is so much sh!t in our water now....what the hell does it matter anymore!!

safe water????? what a friggin joke!!

between chlorine, floride and the sh!t that overflows off of our petroleum based roads that run over aquifers is a joke!!

AGAIN..........an attempt by the LAME STREAM MEDIA and the special interest groups being used as re-directors!!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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there is so much sh!t in our water now....what the hell does it matter anymore!!
safe water????? what a friggin joke!!
between chlorine, floride and the sh!t that overflows off of our petroleum based roads that run over aquifers is a joke!!
AGAIN..........an attempt by the LAME STREAM MEDIA and the special interest groups being used as re-directors!!!


LOL!  Bumbler is worried about chlorine and florid!!!

Chemicals Used in the Hydraulic Fracturing Process in Pennsylvania
Prepared by the Department of Environmental Protection
Bureau of Oil and Gas Management
Chemical     Product Name
2,2-Dibromo-3-Nitrilopropionamide     Bio Clear 1000/Bio Clear 2000/ Bio-Clear 200/BioRid20L/ EC6116A
2-methyl-4-isothiazolin-3-one     X-Cide 207
5-chloro-2-methyl-4-isothiazolin-3-one     X-Cide 207
Acetic Acid     Fe-1A Acidizing Composition/ Packer Inhibitor
Acetic Anhydride     Fe-1A Acidizing Composition
Acetylene     GT&S Inc./ Airco
Alcohol Ethoxylated     C12-16 NE-200
Alkyl benzene sulfonic acid     Tetrolite AW0007/ FR-46
Ammonia (aqueous)     FAW-5
Ammonium Bifluoride     ABF 37%
Ammonium Persulfate     AP Break
Ammonium Bisulfite     Techni-Hib 604/ Fe OXCLEAR/ Packer Inhibitor
Ammonium chloride     Salt Inhibitor
Ammonium Salt (alkylpolyether sulfate)     Tetrolite AW0007
Amorphous silica     TerraProp Plus/ Bituminous Coal Fly Ash ASTM C618
Benzoic Acid     Benzoic Acid
Boric Acid     BC-140/ Unilink 8.5
Boric Oxide     XLW-32
Calcium Chloride     Dowflake
Calcium Oxide     Bituminous Coal Fly Ash ASTM C618
carboxymethylhydroxypropyl guar blend     Unigel CMPHG
Choline Chloride     Clay Treat-2C
Cinnamaldehyde     ENVIROHIB 2001
Citric Acid     Ferrotrol 300L/ IC-100L
Complex polyamine salt     Clay Master-5C
Crystalline Silica: Cristobalite     
Crystalline Silica: Quartz     Silica Sand/ / Atlas PRC/ Best Sand/ Bituminous Coal Fly Ash ASTM C618
Cupric chloride dihydrate     Ferrotrol 280L
Cured resin     LiteProp 125
Cyclohexanes     CS-2
Dazomet     ICI-3240
Diethylene Glycol     Scaletrol 720/ Scaletrol 7208
d-Limonene
MA-844W
Enzyme     GBL-8X
EO-C7-9-iso-, C8 rich-alcohols     NE-940/ NE-90
EO-C9-11-iso-, C10-rich alcohols     NE-940/ NE-90
Ethoxylated Alcohol     FRW-14/ SAS-2/ Flomax 50/ WFR-3B
Ethyl Acetate     Castle Thrust
Ethyl Alcohol     FAW-5/ Castle Shop Solv/ Dallas Morris
Ethylbenzene     NDL-100/ PARANOX/ Uniflo II
Ethylbenzene     NDL-100/ PARANOX/ Uniflo II
Ethylene Glycol     ENVIROHIB 2001/ ICA-2/ LEB 10X/ Scaletrol
720/ Sceletrol 7208/ CC 300/ Clachek A/ Clachek
LP/ Ironsta II B/ NCL-100/ BC 140/ NCL-100/
Flomax 50/ NCL/ Scalehib 100/ Unihib O/ Unilink 8.5
Formic Acid     ENVIROHIB 2001
Gluconic Acid     Interstate ICA-2
Glutaraldehyde     Alpha 114/Alpha 125/ ICI-150
Glycerol     Bio Sealers
Glycol Ethers     ENVIROHIB 2001/AMPHOAM 75/ PARANOX/ Uniflo II/ Unifoam/ WNE-342LN
Guar Gum     PROGUM 19 GUAR PRODUCT/ Unigel 19XL/ Benchmark Polymer 3400/ WGA-15/ Unigel 5F
Hydrochloric Acid     Hydrochloric Acid (HCL)/ TETRAClean 542/ Muriatic Acid
Hydrochloric Acid 3% – 35%     Hydrochloric Acid 3% – 35%
Isopropanol     AFS 30 Blend/ FAC-1W/ FAC-3W/ MA-844W/ NE-23/ NE-940/ Flomax 50/ Tetrolite AW0007/
FMW25 Foamer/ CS-2
Isopropyl Alcohol     NFS-102/ WFT-9511/ LT-32/ AR-1/ Flomax 50/ NDL-100/ Unibac/ Uniflo II/ Uniflo/ Unihib O/
WNE-342LN
Methanol     
AFS 30 Blend/ NE-200/ Activator Superset-W/ CI-14/ FAW-5/ GasFlo/ Inflo-250W/ LT-32/ NE-940/
XLW-32/ Tetrolite AW0007/ FMW25 Foamer/ 40 HTL Corrosion Inhibitor/ NE 100/ HAI-OS Acid
Inhibitor/ Unibac/ NE-90/ Packer Inhibitor
Methyl Alcohol     Clearbreak 400/ Super Surf/ Castle Shop Solv
Methyl Salicylate     Bio Sealers
n-butanol     AirFoam 311
Nitrilotriacetamide     Salt Inhibitor
Phenolic Resin     Atlas PRC
Polyethylene Glycol     NE-940/ EC6116A/ NE-90
Polyethylene Glycol Mixture     Bio Clear 2000/ Bio-Clear 200
Polyoxylalkylene sulfate     FMW25 Foamer
Polysaccharide Blend     GW-3LDF
Potassium Carbonate     BF-7L
Potassium Chloride     Dowflake
Potassium Hydroxide     B-9, pH Increase Buffer/ BXL-2
Propargyl Alcohol     CI-14/ HAI-OS Acid Inhibitor
Propylene Glycol     SAS-2/ WFR-3B
Silica     S-8C, Sand, 100 mesh/ Montmorillnonite clay
Sodium Bicarbonate     K-34
Sodium Bromide     BioRid 20L
Sodium Hydroxide     Caustic Soda/ ICI-3240/ BioRid B-71
Sodium Persulphate     High Perm SW-LB
Sodium Xylene Sulfonate     FAC-2/ FAC-3W
Sulfuric Acid     Sulfuric Acid
Surfactants     AFS-30/ GasFlo/ Inflo-250W
Talc     Adomite Aqua
Tetrakis(hydroxymethyl)phosphonium sulfate     Magnacide 575 Microbiocide
Tetramethyl ammonium Chloride     Clay Treat-3C
Trimethyloctadecylammonium chloride     FAC-1W/ FAC-3W


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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If you watch the video it states the Fracking Company's Own Tests Results were:
.01 mpl.
the Fracking Company's Own Tests Results now are:
64 mpl.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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If you watch the video it states the Fracking Company's Own Tests Results were:
.01 mpl.
the Fracking Company's Own Tests Results now are:
64 mpl.



fire is fire...


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the only reason fracking is being pursued is for lazy folks like ourselves to get served....remove the man from the land and other
men rule over him/her


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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fire is fire...


Not exactly... at a concentration of .01... it's not fire... it's barely detectable.
After 'fracking' it's practically a flame thrower.

I've seen a video where a guy tries to put out a burn barrel of leaves with his home drinking water...
as the 'fracked' water hits the fire, the fire just gets bigger.  


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Anthony Schillings opens a valve to unload water from his truck into a Heckmann Water Resources (HWR) treatment plant that separates oil, sediment and water mixed during the hydraulic fracturing process, near Carthage, Texas, U.S., on Friday, Dec. 9, 2011. Water-service companies help manage the chemical-tainted water that's a byproduct of oil and natural gas drilling and production; cleaning and recycling it for re-use, and hauling it away for disposal. Photographer: Jason Janik/Bloomberg via Getty Images
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The science behind it
The naturally occurring radiation found in the Marcellus -- which some experts have said exceed drinking water limits by thousand-fold and nuclear discharge limits by 300 -- is called Naturally Occurring Radioactive Material, or NORM.
If this NORM is exposed or concentrated by human activity -- such as fracking, the common term for an oil and gas drilling technique -- it becomes Technologically-Enhanced NORM, or TENORM, according to the Environmental Protection Agency.
According to the World Nuclear Association, NORM is used to describe all radioactive elements in the environment, as well as those radioactive materials that are released by human activity and thereby increase the potential chance of radiation exposure. Examples of NORM in the environment are uranium and thorium, and their decay products, radium and radon. These elements, the association says, “have always been present in the Earth’s crust and atmosphere.”
According to the EPA, radium can be found in many types of rock, soil, water, plants and animals. Long-term exposure can be harmful.
Resnikoff says the Marcellus shale contains about 30 times background of radium, which means the shale itself contains 30 times the amount of radium found in soil sampled from New York and Pennsylvania. The average amount of radium in these states’ soil is .85 pCi/L, Resnikoff said.
“Brine, which comes up in a producing well and is separated from the natural gas, is the pore water in the shale formation, and can, according to the DEC, have radium-226 concentrations up to 15,000 pCi/L,” he said. “Under the pressure and temperature conditions in the Marcellus shale, radium is in solution.” Resknikoff also said that the radium can accumulate on pipes, which will then radiate gamma radiation.

Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2013 10:15 pm
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Wastewater from hydraulic fracturing in the Marcellus shale region can be radioactive.
Highly radioactive.
Through a drilling technique known formally as hydraulic fracturing, a stratum of shale rock one mile beneath the surface is blasted with chemically laced, high-pressure water to release pockets of natural gas. That water, now containing mineral debris from the rock formation, is then sucked back out of the earth to be disposed of or recycled.
A constituent element of that wastewater is radium-226. The Marcellus shale is full of it.
Mark Engle, a U.S. Geological Survey research geologist, said the main reason the Marcellus shale is so high in radium is because the shale contains enriched concentrations of uranium, which has a half-life of 4.5 billion years. That means, Engle said, “these rocks will continue to generate radium and other uranium series progeny for a very long time.”
Engle co-authored a USGS report that found that millions of barrels of wastewater from unconventional (fracked) wells in Pennsylvania and vertical wells in New York were 3,609 times more radioactive than the federal limit for drinking water and 300 times more radioactive than a Nuclear Regulatory Commission limit for industrial discharges to water. He also said the Marcellus’ high levels of uranium and radioactivity has to do with the surrounding geology.
Marvin Resnikoff, a physicist at the University of Michigan and senior associate at Radioactive Waste Management Associates, said the Marcellus shale contains about 30 times the amount of radium found in topsoil sampled from New York and Pennsylvania.
And with higher levels of radium in the black shale itself comes increased levels of radium in wastewater, Resnikoff said.
While the radioactive materials contained within the Marcellus during fracking are naturally occurring, experts say high levels still pose a threat to health.
The EPA classifies radon, radium and uranium as “naturally occurring radionuclides found in the environment.” But the EPA also classifies both radium and radon as “potent carcinogens.” The agency says that radium, through oral exposure, can cause lung, bone, head and nasal passage tumors. And radon, if inhaled, causes lung cancer.
Resnikoff agrees.
“Radium is of concern because when ingested or inhaled, it concentrates in bone and can give rise to leukemia,” he said.
While the World Nuclear Association says that naturally occurring radiation makes up for the average person’s annual exposure and is usually not a threat, it also says that certain industries handle significant quantities of Naturally Occurring Radioactive Material, or NORM, which usually ends up their waste streams.
“Over time, as potential NORM hazards have been identified, these industries have increasingly become subject to monitoring and regulation,” the association said. “However, there is as yet little consistency in NORM regulations among industries and countries. This means that material which is considered radioactive waste in one context may not be considered so in another. Also, that which may constitute low-level waste in the nuclear industry might go entirely unregulated in another industry.”
That’s why the nuclear industry is subject to much stricter regulations than the gas industry in terms of regulating potentially radioactive waste, said David Lochbaum, a nuclear engineer who heads the Nuclear Safety Project for the Union of Concerned Scientists.
“NRC's regulations require that every drop of water and every molecule of air discharged from a plant be monitored for radiation,” Lochbaum said.
Ivan White, a career scientist for the National Council on Radiation Protection, said radiation exposure to humans should be limited.
“The goal is to limit the total radiation dose to large populations because of the increased probability of health effects,” he said. “In the current case, the uncontrolled release of hazardous waste could result in the exposure of millions of people over decades.”
White also authored a report issued by the New York-based Grassroots Environmental Education that says fracking can produce waste much higher in radiation than previously thought.
And environmentalists say that radiation is becoming a serious issue in the disposal or treatment of fracking waste.
“The issue with oil and gas development -- and especially fracking, given the large amount of fluids injected -- is that the deep drilling and fracking bring these NORMs back up to the surface as drill cuttings and wastewater,” said Adam Kron, attorney for the Environmental Integrity Project.
“As fracking has rapidly expanded, we’re seeing much more of this radioactive waste, which is a problem, since traditional landfills and wastewater treatment plants aren’t accustomed to handling it," he said. "In fact, wastewater treatment plants aren’t able to remove radioactivity, and we’re starting to hear accounts of landfills receiving -- and sometimes turning away -- radioactive cuttings and sand from across state lines.”


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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*YAWN*

Is Boxy so bored that we have to go back to this worn out subject?




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*YAWN*

Is Boxy so bored that we have to go back to this worn out subject?


If you find the subject so boring... why'd ya click on it?  No one twisted your arm to watch it...
It's clearly labeled on the subject of FRACKING.... so why even bother???


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