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Box A Rox
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President Barack Obama won the public argument over taxes so decisively that
almost half of Republicans now say he has an election mandate to raise rates
on the rich.


Majorities of about 2-to-1 also read the election results as an endorsement of Obama’s pledge to
protect Social Security and Medicare benefits.

"Sixty-five percent of Americans say the Nov. 6 results gave Obama a “mandate” on his proposal
to raise tax rates on income over $250,000 and “to get it done.” Forty-five percent of Republicans
agree."


Bloomberg Poll
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/.....mandate-in-poll.html


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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President Barack Obama won the public argument over taxes so decisively that
almost half of Republicans now say he has an election mandate to raise rates
on the rich.


Majorities of about 2-to-1 also read the election results as an endorsement of Obama’s pledge to
protect Social Security and Medicare benefits.

"Sixty-five percent of Americans say the Nov. 6 results gave Obama a “mandate” on his proposal
to raise tax rates on income over $250,000 and “to get it done.” Forty-five percent of Republicans
agree."


Bloomberg Poll
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/.....mandate-in-poll.html


Why didn't that translate into a majority in the house for Democrats?  Congress passes laws, if the people wanted higher taxes on the rich they would have voted out those that took the Grover Norquist pledge.



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I want everyone's taxes to go up.
If we are trying to emulate Europe, we should go all the way.


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You can't fix the debt problem without doing something with SS and Medicare/Medicaid and even taxing the rich at 100% can't generate enough money to pay off the debt.
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You can't fix the debt problem without doing something with SS and Medicare/Medicaid and even taxing the rich at 100% can't generate enough money to pay off the debt.


How about we get the RICH to actually PAY TAXES.  

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In 2011, 78,000 tax filers with incomes between $211,000 and $533,000 paid no
income taxes; 24,000 households with incomes of $533,000 to $2.2 million paid no income
taxes, and 3,000 tax filers with incomes above $2.2 million paid no income taxes.


Overall, according to the Tax Policy Center, "of the 38 million tax units made nontaxable
by the addition of tax expenditures, 44 percent are moved off the tax rolls by elderly tax
benefits and another 30 percent by credits for children and the working poor."

Moreover, only 18.1 percent of American households paid neither federal income taxes nor
payroll taxes in 2011, says the Tax Policy Center.


CBS NEWS
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57515033-503544/fact-checking-romneys-47-percent-comment/


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How about we get the RICH to actually PAY TAXES.  


They already do...
http://www.heritage.org/federalbudget/top10-percent-income-earners

we just need them and everyone else to pay more...
Guess what? we'll still have a deficit and accrued debt.



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If you really want the rich to pay more taxes tell the idiots in Congress to change the tax code and close all the loop holes so companies like GE would have to pay their fair share on a 5 billion dollars of income.
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If you really want the rich to pay more taxes tell the idiots in Congress to change the tax code and close all the loop holes so companies like GE would have to pay their fair share on a 5 billion dollars of income.


I agree... as I posted.  The REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED congress has been fighting ANY Tax increase
for 20 years!  GOP OBSTRUCTIONISM!


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Excuse me, who controlled the Congress from 2006 until 2010 when the Reps took the house back and still controls the Senate and WH???
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Excuse me, who controlled the Congress from 2006 until 2010 when the Reps took the house back and still controls the Senate and WH???

Republicans/Conservatives and Conservative Blue Dog Democrats have fought any tax increase since
Reagan's time.
And you are excused!  





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Republicans/Conservatives and Conservative Blue Dog Democrats have fought any tax increase since
Reagan's time.
And you are excused!  



Thank God for the Conservative Blue Dog Democrats (the ONLY Democrats worth voting for) and Republicans who voted against tax increases!


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Thank God for the Conservative Blue Dog Democrats (the ONLY Democrats worth voting for) and Republicans who voted against tax increases!


Most of the Blue Dogs are gone... Voted OUT OF OFFICE!

~The once-influential coalition of conservative "BLUE DOG" Democrats, counted 54
members following the 2008 election'
~The  2010 GOP wave Republicans knocked off about 23 of the 54 members.
~Twenty-seven members started off the 112th Congress but by Nov. 6th elections only 18 remained
on the ballot.
~Today there are 15 Blue Dog Democrats struggling for their very survival.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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The truth is that any Dem who didn't support the Presidents every wish was primaried or denied funds so they were beat in the elections. The were expendable once the Health-care bill was passed.
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Excuse me, who controlled the Congress from 2006 until 2010 when the Reps took the house back and still controls the Senate and WH???


That's easy.

Corporate America and the rich.

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The truth is that any Dem who didn't support the Presidents every wish was primaried or denied funds so they were beat in the elections. The were expendable once the Health-care bill was passed.


The Dems added members to Congress... and picked up members in the Senate... and won the
presidency... The Republicans lost in all categories.


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