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CICERO
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And the fact that you think this is the reasoning shows your true lack of understanding.....and don't ask me to explain, cuz that doesn't work with you and we both know it!!!


Unfortunately I do understand.  I know that "freedom" isn't the reason...I am well aware that it is to expand the U.S. empire and control of natural resources.


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9/11 happened OVER TEN YEARS AGO...............and yet we are STILL killing innocent people by the thousands.....including our own military. Obama received the PEACE PRIZE............and yet we are in more wars today than we were before 2008. Guantanamo is still alive and well. America pays to play in this global world of chess....and at the expense of our young military men and women.  Obama expanded on what Bush started!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Unfortunately I do understand.  I know that "freedom" isn't the reason...I am well aware that it is to expand the U.S. empire and control of natural resources.


Perfect example of why it would be useless to try to explain it to you......
How many countries have you visited in your life and talked to them about their impressions and feelings and thoughts of USA....did the majority say it was freeedom and our war monger hunger for their resources?  You have blinders on...they only see CICERO and no more, regardless of all else. HAVE A NICE DAY SUFFERING IN YOUR MISERY OF THIS HORRIBLE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!  


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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9/11 happened OVER TEN YEARS AGO...............and yet we are STILL killing innocent people by the thousands.....including our own military. Obama received the PEACE PRIZE............and yet we are in more wars today than we were before 2008. Guantanamo is still alive and well. America pays to play in this global world of chess....and at the expense of our young military men and women.  Obama expanded on what Bush started!


Yes, of course...we should be able to just shut off the faucet overnight, right?  Do we know all the intracicies and commitmetns and discussions that are held to review these decisions and actions...do we know what agreements are being being negotiated so we can remove our troops....are we that informed????? No, we just say, HEY, BIN LADEN's DEAD SO WE SHOULDN'T BE THERE ANY MORE! I wish it was that easy, and I honestly wish we were out of the Middle East entirely, but that's not the way it works, and for reasons that we do not know and shouldn't.


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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HAVE A NICE DAY SUFFERING IN YOUR MISERY OF THIS HORRIBLE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!  


I have many good friends and family in the United States.  I don't suffer in misery.  I have a grip on the reality of our government policies.  We have a policy of preemptive war and bomb people that are found guilty by DoD lawyers.  

Maybe if I wore the government issued costume I would see things through your camouflage colored glasses.


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I wish it was that easy, and I honestly wish we were out of the Middle East entirely, but that's not the way it works, and for reasons that we do not know and shouldn't.


WOW!  Just WOW!!!


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Maybe if I wore the government issued costume I would see things through your camouflage colored glasses.


Cicero in a "government issued costume"...  
I doubt that Cic could hack it in the uniform of a cub scout... It would be wayyyyy toooo stressful
for him. I know he couldn't survive the military.


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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WOW!  Just WOW!!!


WOW JUST WOW WHAT...are you saying that you have a need to be informed of items of national security?  That is information that should be public???  Get a grip on yourself...you are not that entitled!  Shows how you really do nt understand reality.  And that costume, dude, happens to be something many of us have been proud to wear...so go burn your flag and your bra while youare at it!


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WOW JUST WOW WHAT...are you saying that you have a need to be informed of items of national security?  That is information that should be public???  Get a grip on yourself...you are not that entitled!  Shows how you really do nt understand reality.  And that costume, dude, happens to be something many of us have been proud to wear...so go burn your flag and your bra while youare at it!


Our government leaders lost sight of a 'just war' during vietnam. Many many many companies (even locally) made millions and millions of dollars during the vietnam war on the backs of our young men and women (whom we know many of them personally).  

Our family, friends and fellow americas are worth fighting and dying for............not the other countries that pose no threat to America!! It's still all about OIL and all about THE DOLLAR VALUE..................wake up folks!

BRING OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM HOME!!!


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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Cicero in a "government issued costume"...  
I doubt that Cic could hack it in the uniform of a cub scout... It would be wayyyyy toooo stressful
for him. I know he couldn't survive the military.


Thanks for the compliments!!!  

The word uniform makes my skin crawl.  Now I know why anytime I speak of limited government and a weaker federal government constricted by the Constitution, you call me an anarchist.  You are used to strict ridgid rules and structure.  Anything that allows individuals to act freely is Anarachy to you.

HOORAH!


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Thanks for the compliments!!!  

The word uniform makes my skin crawl.  Now I know why anytime I speak of limited government and a weaker federal government constricted by the Constitution, you call me an anarchist.  You are used to strict ridgid rules and structure.  Anything that allows individuals to act freely is Anarachy to you.

HOORAH!


Cic is spinning his views again, but if you read his posts, Cicero wouldn't be happy with smaller govt,
or even small govt... he wants NO GOVT at the federal level and barely a 2 person office in the State govt.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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The word uniform makes my skin crawl.  


I think the feeling is mutual... All over this country there are military uniforms that cringe, wrinkle and buttons
pop off at the mere mention of "Cicero".  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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... he wants NO GOVT at the federal level and barely a 2 person office in the State govt.


Ahhhh... I never said that.  But, if it fits your argument, feel free to make stuff up.

I guess opposing the execution of US citizens without charges, trial and conviction is now the new definition of anarchy.


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I think the feeling is mutual... All over this country there are military uniforms that cringe, wrinkle and buttons
pop off at the mere mention of "Cicero".  


Blind nationalism and unquestioning patriotism will do that to a person.  Their minds are not capable of any other way of thinking.  There are probably many that can't wait for the opportunity to piss on some dead Iranians.  For the love of country of course.


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Cic is spinning his views again, but if you read his posts, Cicero wouldn't be happy with smaller govt,
or even small govt... he wants NO GOVT at the federal level and barely a 2 person office in the State govt.


You use too many words....let me edit you statement to be more concise....
If you read his posts, you know Cicero can never be happy


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