It's not that Cicero "CAN'T" understand the situation in Syria... It's that Cicero "WON'T". He just refuses and continues to follow his own flawed agenda.
For some one not politically connected to the Obama Administration, check out the most qualified person in the world to offer an opinion... Condi Rice.
(I've posted this before, but Cicero's brain rejects any facts that don't agree with his agenda)
Former Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice didn't actually say that she approved or disapproved of the way the Obama administration handled the September 11 Terrorist Attacks in Benghazi. Her response to the questions is very diplomatic/bureaucratic and measured -- basically saying lets wait to see what comes out of the internal investigation.
Oh -- and maybe you didn't know -- but Benghazi is in Libya not in Syria as you seem to suggest to Cicero.
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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground." Lyndon Baines Johnson
the lame stream media is in damage control mode until 11/6/12!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
UPDATE: FACEBOOK REVERSES, ALLOWS SEALS' POST CRITICAL OF OBAMA by AWR HAWKINS 30 Oct 2012 1606 POST A COMMENT
UPDATE: Facebook Manager Andrew Noyes emailed the following to Breitbart News this morning: We wanted to follow up on the Special Operations Speaks PAC (SOS) article published on Breitbart.com last night. I assure you that removing the image was not an act of censorship on our part. This was an error and we apologize for any inconvenience it may have caused. Over the weekend, Facebook took down a message by the Special Operations Speaks PAC (SOS) which highlighted the fact that Obama denied backup to the forces being overrun in Benghazi.
The message was contained in a meme which demonstrated how Obama had relied on the SEALS when he was ready to let them get Osama bin Laden, and how he had turned around and denied them when they called for backup on Sept 11...............................>>>>.......................>>>>...................http://www.breitbart.com/Big-P.....ama-on-Benghazi-Gate
Mother of Navy SEAL killed in Bengazi: I don't trust Romney... He shouldn't make my son's death part of his political agenda...
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Slain official's mom rips President Obama The consulate in Benghazi, Libya is seen. | AP Photo
The official's mother says the administration's promises to her have not been kept. | AP Photo By BOBBY CERVANTES | 10/11/12 6:10 AM EDT Updated: 10/11/12 5:00 PM EDT
The mother of one of the State Department officials killed in the Sept. 11 attack in Benghazi is blasting President Barack Obama and top administration officials for not telling her more information about her son’s death.
“Don’t give me any baloney that comes through with this political stuff,” Pat Smith, the mother of Sean Smith, said on CNN on Wednesday. “I still don’t know. In fact, today I just heard something more, that he died of smoke inhalation.” Sean Smith was an information management officer in the U.S. Foreign Service. His mother said the administration’s promises for a definitive account of her son’s final hours have not been kept.
“The things they are telling me are outright lies,” she said. “Leon Panetta actually took my face in his hands and he said, ‘Trust me, I will tell you what happened.’ And so far he’s told me nothing.”
She laid into the officials for not acknowledging she “has a right to know something.”
“I told Obama personally, ‘Look, I had him for his first 17 years, and then he went into the service then you got him,’” she said. “I said, ‘You screwed up. You didn’t do a good job. I lost my son.’”
On Wednesday, the Romney campaign said the GOP presidential nominee would stop telling the story of meeting a slain Navy SEAL who was killed in Benghazi.
“Governor Romney was inspired by the memory of meeting Glen Doherty and shared his story and that memory, but we respect the wishes of Mrs. Doherty,” Romney spokesman Rick Gorka said via email.
Senior U.S. intelligence officials said Thursday that CIA security officers went to the aid of State Department staff less than 25 minutes after they got the first call for help from the consulate, which was less than a mile from a CIA annex. The detailed timeline provides the first in-depth look at how deeply the CIA was involved in the rescue attempt, and it comes amid persistent questions about whether the Obama administration responded as quickly and effectively as it could to the siege.
CIA annex received a call about the assault, about a half dozen members of a CIA security team tried to get heavy weapons and other assistance from the Libyans. But when the Libyans failed to respond, the security team, which routinely carries small arms, went ahead with the rescue attempt. At no point was the team told to wait, the officials said.
Instead, they said the often outmanned and outgunned team members made all the key decisions on the ground, with no second-guessing from senior officials monitoring the situation from afar.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Sources, emails point to communication breakdown in Obama administration during Libya attack
By Jennifer Griffin
Published November 01, 2012 Sept. 12, 2012: This file photo shows a man walking through a room in the gutted U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, after an attack that killed four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens. (AP)
Senior counterterrorism officials felt cut out of the loop the night of the attack on the Benghazi consulate, according to emails that were shared with Fox News by military sources who are familiar with discussions of how to respond the night of the Sept. 11 attack.
Top State Department officials decided not to send an interagency rapid response unit designed to respond to terrorist attacks known as a FEST team, a Foreign Emergency Support Team. This team from the State Department and CIA has a military Joint Special Operations Command element to it and has been routinely deployed to assist in investigations -- for instance, after the USS Cole bombing and the bombings at the U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.
That team, these counterterrorism officials argue, could have helped the FBI gain access to the site in Benghazi faster. It ultimately took the FBI 24 days.
"The response process was isolated at the most senior level," according to one intelligence source. "Counterterrorism professionals were not consulted and a decision was taken to send the FBI on its own without the enablers that would have allowed its agents to gain access to the site in Benghazi in a timely manner." The FBI team did not get on the ground in Benghazi for several weeks after the attack and at that point any "evidence" had been rifled through by looters and journalists.
"A better response approach could have certainly allowed the FBI to access the site much sooner than the 24 days it would eventually take," a source in the counterterrorism community said.
Further, the Counterterrorism Security Group, or CSG, was never asked to meet that night or in subsequent days, according to two separate counterterrorism officials, as first reported by CBS News. The CSG is composed of experts on terrorism from across government agencies and makes recommendations to the deputies who assist the president's Cabinet in formulating a response to crises involving terrorism.
National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor told Fox News, "the most senior people in government worked on this issue from the minute it happened. That includes the Secretary of Defense, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Secretary of State, National Security advisor, etcetera. Additionally, the Deputies Committee -- the second in command at the relevant national security agencies -- met at least once and more often twice a day to manage the issue."
But the latest revelations, including reporting by Fox News that the State Department was warned a month before the attack that the consulate could not withstand a coordinated strike, have sparked renewed criticisms from top GOP lawmakers.
"Enough already, Mr. President," Lindsey Graham, R-S.C. said in a statement. "You need to address the American people and account for your leadership in the attack on our Consulate in Benghazi, Libya. You should explain to the American people what you knew, when you knew it, and what you did about it before, during and after the attack."
Several government spokesmen suggest that the president's top advisers were meeting that night to oversee the response, suggesting the employment of the Counterterrorism Security Group was not necessary.
As to why the FEST was not sent, State Department spokesman Philippe Reines responded that "the first thing to know is that it's not a security team. It's primarily a resource that State can send to help restore a facility. Best example is Nairobi after the bombing because the Embassy suffered such significant damage. It couldn't function properly without resuming basic infrastructure needs like communications. In this case, that was not necessary as Embassy Tripoli wasn't impacted and could, as it does today, continue to function normally."
Administration officials didn't know in the initial hours whether they had a potential hostage situation. According to an account now provided by the CIA and quoted by the Washington Post's David Ignatius, at 1:15 a.m. (more than three hours after the attack began) when Stevens was still missing: "the first idea is to go to a Benghazi hospital to recover Stevens, who they rightly suspect is already dead. But the hospital is surrounded by the al-Qaeda-linked Ansar al-Sharia militia that mounted the consulate attack."
This part of the CIA timeline released by the agency on Thursday suggests that the night of the attack, the CIA's Global Response Staff, or GRS, agents knew that an Al Qaeda-linked group was at the hospital where the ambassador's body had been taken -- and yet days later the CIA provided talking points to the administration before U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice went on five separate Sunday talk shows and made no mention of terrorism.
Fox News has learned that U.S. military intelligence was informing senior commanders as early as 7 p.m. ET -- less than four hours after the attack began -- that Ansar al-Sharia carried out the attack. The intelligence was relayed to the military with no caveats, according to a source familiar with the intelligence.
Further, Fox News has been shown two independent State Department cables, which have now been published by Foreign Policy magazine, that show that on the day of the attack Stevens' team sent cables expressing concern that the consulate was under surveillance. At least one of the cables says the Libyan police themselves -- the security force provided to the U.S. consulate by the Minister of Foreign Affairs -- was photographing the Consulate at 6:43 a.m. on the morning of the attack.
U.S. intelligence officials tell Fox News there were reports from eyewitnesses in Benghazi on Sept. 11 that an armed militia was gathering three hours before the attack on the consulate began at 9:47 p.m.
Sources, emails point to communication breakdown in Obama administration during Libya attack
Don't ya just love when accusations fly from "SOURCES"!
If the initial response was with in 25 minutes of the attack... I'd say that the response time was not all that bad.
If the initial contact with the attackers were from CIA operatives in Libya, I can understand why they wouldn't want that information publicized right away. After all, the CIA and like agencies throughout the world are "COVERT" and rely on secrecy.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Don't ya just love when accusations fly from "SOURCES"!
If the initial response was with in 25 minutes of the attack... I'd say that the response time was not all that bad.
If the initial contact with the attackers were from CIA operatives in Libya, I can understand why they wouldn't want that information publicized right away. After all, the CIA and like agencies throughout the world are "COVERT" and rely on secrecy.
Were the CIA operatives responding to a "spontaneous mob" or an organized terrorist attack with heavy weapons? I agree, 25 minute response time is pretty quick. If they responded in 25 minutes, that would mean high level White House officials were well aware of the situation on the ground in Benghazi within an a few hours of the attack. Did that info get passed on to Hilary Clinton, Susan Rice, and Barack Obama?
I'm confident that the U.S. responded to the attack with all military resources available in the area. What is disturbing is the cover-up that was conducted by the Obama Administration after the attack, and the continued refusal by high level Administration officials to answer questions about the attack and why they blamed it on a video for WEEKS after. Especially now that we know the CIA was on the ground 25 minutes into the attack and was well aware of the situation.
Were the CIA operatives responding to a "spontaneous mob" or an organized terrorist attack with heavy weapons? I agree, 25 minute response time is pretty quick. If they responded in 25 minutes, that would mean high level White House officials were well aware of the situation on the ground in Benghazi within an a few hours of the attack. Did that info get passed on to Hilary Clinton, Susan Rice, and Barack Obama?
I'm confident that the U.S. responded to the attack with all military resources available in the area. What is disturbing is the cover-up that was conducted by the Obama Administration after the attack, and the continued refusal by high level Administration officials to answer questions about the attack and why they blamed it on a video for WEEKS after. Especially now that we know the CIA was on the ground 25 minutes into the attack and was well aware of the situation.
Cic so wants this unfortunate attack to get legs... so far most Americans take it as it was... a terrorist attack that left 4 dead... not a political football.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Cic so wants this unfortunate attack to get legs... so far most Americans take it as it was... a terrorist attack that left 4 dead... not a political football.
I agree, it isn't a political football. I'm concerned about the White House covering it up for political reasons. Lying about the facts behind the attack that resulted in 4 dead Americans is dispicible.
I agree, it isn't a political football. I'm concerned about the White House covering it up for political reasons. Lying about the facts behind the attack that resulted in 4 dead Americans is dispicible.
I haven't heard any lies. Lots of info from the intelligence groups, from foreign press, from US press and from the white house was wrong. If you read Condi Rice's piece about the incident, there is OFTEN early reports that are incomplete, mistaken, partially true, etc. Every one along the chain of command is trying to best take appropriate measures with incomplete information.
There will always be people like you and 'Baghdad Bobs' who spin correct information to further their political agenda.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
It's a cover up but the lame stream media won't elaborate until AFTER the election...
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
It's a cover up but the lame stream media won't elaborate until AFTER the election...
Won't elaborate on what??? They can elaborate on a story... but if there is no story... there is nothing to report.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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