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Box A Rox
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Yes, real people with families and loved ones died in these attacks,
but in no case was there any controversy surrounding them as there is in the
Libya attack and in no embassy attack under the Bush Presidency was there any
attempt to cover-up what happened
or was there blame placed on something that
turned out to be patently false.


Most of what Harry posts is no more than Conservative Opinion BS.
But the section of his posts above:
1. "no case was there any controversy surrounding them"
If the Dems had wanted to manufacture a "controversy" as the Reps did with Benghazi, then
there would have been a "controversy", and it would have been just as phoney as this one.

2. "in no embassy attack under the Bush Presidency was there any attempt to cover-up what
happened"

The "cover up" only exists in RightWingers minds and their plans for reelection.  No where else.

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It is an unfortunate human trait to look for some kind of moral wrong or legal
malfeasance in specific events to incite general public outrage either to benefit
someone or to cast aspersion on someone else.

Shortly after Republicans won a House majority
in the 2010 midterm elections  Republican, Darrell
Issa,  promised his only job as chairman of the
House Oversight Committee was to have “seven
hearings a week, times 40 weeks” investigating
the Obama Administration when the 112th Congress
began.

Rep Darnell Issa kept his promise.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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It's about time someone in Congress and the WH keep their promises.
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Their 'lunch order' is also unclassified information... and just as important as this piece.
The Benghazi 'inquisition' was a multi million dollar right wing witch hunt that found no witches...
not even a broom stick.


I've always wondered Boxy. Do you wake up in the morning, log on to the interwebs and go "What would an idiot write?" because this retort is about as retarded as it gets.

Anyway, everyone else now thinks this is (still) an issue. You know it's bad when David Gregory goes off the reservation...




And here we have 'Morning Joe' laying some serious smackdown......





ABC News.....





CNN....





Then we have my favorite Tommy Vietor. "Dude, it was like two years ago." shows what type of monkeys we have running the Gov.








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Most of what Harry posts is no more than Conservative Opinion BS.


And most of what YOU post is Liberal opinion BS.

So, if you think it's all a conspiracy, dispute the facts in my post .. find evidence to discredit it (every piece of it, not just picking and choosing one sentence)


We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.   Funny how that works.
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And most of what YOU post is Liberal opinion BS.

So, if you think it's all a conspiracy, dispute the facts in my post .. find evidence to discredit it (every piece of it, not just picking and choosing one sentence)


Exactly how do I dispute a non event???  It isn't up to me to PROVE that a conspiracy doesn't exists,
it's up to the "Conspiracy Promoters" to prove it does exists.

(Example... Prove that "Alien Abductions" don't exist.)


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Anyway, everyone else now thinks this is (still) an issue. You know it's bad when
David Gregory goes off the reservation...


I'm sure in Bucky's little conservative world of Right Wing Media... EVERYONE ELSE believes in
a Benghazi conspiracy...
In the real world... not so much.


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"Our Democratic friends, for the most part, have been in the tank over Benghazi. Some guy
said this about me yesterday on the left:
The only reason I cared about this was because I have six tea party opponents.
Well, if that's true, I'm the biggest scumbag in America."

-- Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), in a radio interview with Mike Gallagher.


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Exactly how do I dispute a non event???  It isn't up to me to PROVE that a conspiracy doesn't exists,
it's up to the "Conspiracy Promoters" to prove it does exists.

(Example... Prove that "Alien Abductions" don't exist.)



A "non event" ?  Americans are dead, on US Soil, in a foreign country ... you don't want answers?

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House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa is issuing a subpoena for Secretary of State John Kerry to testify before the committee May 21 about Benghazi, Issa announced Friday.

The move comes in the wake of new, "smoking gun" emails that show top White House officials working to craft a narrative that the attack was the result of a YouTube video and "not a broader failure of policy."

Republicans have expressed outrage that the documents were not provided earlier under subpoenas for them, but were instead revealed via a Freedom Of Information Request lawsuit by the conservative non-profit group Judicial Watch.

“Compliance with a subpoena for documents is not a game. Because your Department is failing to meet its legal obligations, I am issuing a new subpoena to compel you to appear before the Committee to answer questions about your agency’s response to the congressional investigation of the Benghazi attack," Issa said in a May 2 letter to Kerry.

Regarding the Obama administration's failure to provide the documents before now, Issa warns Kerry, "such contempt of Congress may constitute a criminal offense."

On Thursday, House Speaker John Boehner called on Kerry to testify before the House to explain why the documents weren't provided earlier.



http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/05/02/Issa-Subpoenas-Kerry


We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.   Funny how that works.
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I'm sure in Bucky's little conservative world of Right Wing Media... EVERYONE ELSE believes in
a Benghazi conspiracy...
In the real world... not so much.



Not so much?  Then why not release the emails?

Not so much?  Why is Issa calling for a subpoena?

In the real world, it's happening, and it's real.

In liberals world, Not so much ...

Keep hoping this will go away ... it's not going to anytime soon.


We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.   Funny how that works.
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A "non event" ?  Americans are dead, on US Soil, in a foreign country ... you don't want answers?


The Benghazi attack IS real, but the "CONSPIRACY" is a hoax.  
What drives the Benghazi Conspiracy story??? Not facts.  Not the public...
What drives the Benghazi conspiracy theory is HILLARY'S ELECTION IN 2016,
AND
WE HOPE HE (OBAMA) FAILS!

I notice you use Breitbart as a link.  Do you consider that site "mainstream".  Do you consider it
"unbiased"?  Do you consider it an extreme right wing site?


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From POLITICO (Not Breitbart) :
Republican Armed Services Committee Chairman Buck McKeon is slamming
the testimony of a key Benghazi witness before the committee of Republican Oversight
Chair Darrell Issa.

McKeon (R-Calif.) called Brig. Gen. Robert Lovell an unreliable witness and criticized
Lovell’s assertion that the State Department was not quick to deploy troops to respond to
the 2012 terrorist attack in Libya. Lovell testified Thursday before Issa’s (R-Calif.) oversight
panel.

“BG Lovell did not serve in a capacity that gave him reliable insight into operational options
available to commanders during the attack, nor did he offer specific courses of action not taken,”
McKeon said.
McKeon added, “The Armed Services Committee has interviewed more than a dozen
witnesses in the operational chain of command that night, yielding thousands of pages
of transcripts, e-mails, and other documents. We have no evidence that Department of
State officials delayed the decision to deploy what few resources DoD had available to
respond.”
Benghazi is a political lightning rod for Republicans, who hope that
bringing attention to it will energize their base before the 2014 midterms.


Politico
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/buck-mckeon-darrell-issa-benghazi-106255.html


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Lets say that the USA has two 'lies'... and we only have $14 million (the cost so far of the
Issa Benghazi hearings) to investigate these two 'lies'. If we can only investigate one of them...
Which one should we choose to investigate?

1. An investigation into the lies about Benghazi embassy attack, killing 4 Americans.
or
2. An investigation into the lies about the Iraq War WMD's, killing 4,488 Americans.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Lets say that the USA has two 'lies'... and we only have $14 million (the cost so far of the
Issa Benghazi hearings) to investigate these two 'lies'. If we can only investigate one of them...
Which one should we choose to investigate?

1. An investigation into the lies about Benghazi embassy attack, killing 4 Americans.
or
2. An investigation into the lies about the Iraq War WMD's, killing 4,488 Americans.


$14 million?  That's one Obama vacation.  


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$14 million?  That's one Obama vacation.  

I swear, Cicero must live in a haystack.  He occasionally would resort to a diversion or a straw
man, but lately it's all he knows.  

So which did you pick Cicero?  #1 or #2?



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It's all about credibility or lack there of.
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