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Both conventions were a great big YAWN!!!

Neither of them gave ANY direction, with specifics, on their vision and plan for the future of this country. Both conventions were filled with empty suits and skirts!!!!

Like I've said before......if these two are the best the dem and rep party have to offer......we're in deep sh!t!!!


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Democrats ended their convention in Charlotte $5 million short of their budget even after being forced to draw down a $10 million line of credit from Duke Energy Corp. (DUK), according to a Democratic Party fundraiser.

That will leave a $15 million bill that eventually will have to be paid by President Barack Obama’s campaign or the Democratic National Committee, according to the fundraiser, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.

The Charlotte Host Committee ended the convention with more than $5 million in immediate obligations and may require a direct cash infusion from the Obama campaign to pay vendors, said the fundraiser.

The $10 million line of credit to Duke Energy will need to be repaid next year, said a second person familiar with the matter, who also spoke on condition of anonymity. Duke Energy Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Jim Rogers is co-chairman of the host committee.

Those debts could siphon off advertising money in the campaign’s final months, as Democrats face a cash disadvantage.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-07/democrats-said-to-end-convention-15-million-short.html
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I forget which cable channel (not FOX) that actually got video of DNC delegates actually saying that America needs to outlaw corporations from making a profit.   Between the non-stop attacks on entrepreneurship and free market capitalism and the obsession with abortion, contraceptives and same-sex marriage -- I am afraid that the once great Democratic Party is rapidly racing to the left and its own oblivion.

You are kinder to Joe Biden than I would ever be.  I'd rather watch paint dry or grass grow than listen to him drone on and on.  


The video you are looking for is Peter Schiff at the DNC.









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GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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the dems are running short of $$$ because NOBODY HAS ANY!!!  

Looks like the economy is worse than they thought....eh?


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Don't worry the governments friend Ben of the Fed is going to print all he could possibly need.
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By JOHN F. HARRIS, JONATHAN MARTIN and JONATHAN ALLEN | 9/7/12 3:53 PM EDT

Barack Obama was flat.

A surprisingly long parade of Democrats and media commentators described the speech less as a failure than a fizzle — an oddly missed opportunity to frame his presidency or the nation’s choice in a fresh or inspirational light.

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Even those who liked the president’s performance generally went no further than saying that he was effective in doing a job that needed to be done, in a tough-minded if prosaic style.

(Also on POLITICO: TV pundits split on Obama speech)

These shoulder-shrug reactions confront Obama with a question no one expected to be asking when the week in Charlotte began: How did a president for whom stirring speeches were the engine of his rise to power manage to give, at best, only the third-most compelling speech at a convention devoted to his own reelection?

The answer is not simply that Michelle Obama’s and Bill Clinton’s performances were especially strong.

It is that Obama made a seemingly deliberate choice to keep his remarks chained tightly to the politics of 2012 — a race that has been defined by relentless, almost mechanical efforts to motivate voters with narrow appeals to specific constituencies and to destroy the opposition as a credible alternative.

The performance underscored the limits of Obama’s oratorical skills in the context of a grind-it-out campaign strategy.

(Also on POLITICO: 8 takeaways from the Dem convention)

In a sign that Obama’s high command recognized that were doubts about just how helpful the speech was, though, a senior aide went to reporters on Air Force One Friday to reveal the results of their focus groups on the address — something the campaign rarely does publicly and surely wouldn’t have felt the need to do if the speech had been received as a home run.

According to the pool report, the official said the campaign conducted research on the various speeches “and I think the American people responded very well to the president’s speech.

“They first of all found it to be optimistic, they found it to be credible in terms of his ideas and goals that would help the economy,” said the Obama adviser, adding that their research indicated positive reaction on Obama’s discussion of foreign policy.

The reaction among even many progressive commentators was less effusive.

“Let’s be blunt. Barack Obama gave a dull and pedestrian speech tonight, with nary an interesting thematic device, policy detail, or even one turn of phrase,” wrote Michael Tomasky, the editor of the progressive journal Democracy, at The Daily Beast, in a line that was representative of other commentary.

James Carville, who wanted something bolder, was disappointed. “Certainly not the best speech of this convention,” Carville tweeted minutes after Obama left the podium with wife Michelle and daughters Sasha and Malia.

(PHOTOS: Scenes from the Democratic convention)

The speech “got the job done. But I didn’t feel any real passion in the delivery. It felt more like an actor soldiering through his lines,” wrote Kevin Drum at Mother Jones. “There was nothing memorable, nothing forward looking, and nothing that drew a contrast with Romney in sharp, gut-level strokes. Obama was, to be charitable, no more than the third best of the Democratic convention’s prime time speakers in 2012.”

“Safe speech,” one underwhelmed Democratic strategist told POLITICO. “It’s kind of like you ask someone out on a date, and [at the end] they say, ‘Oh, he’s nice.’”



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/80925.html#ixzz260w3wooi


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Obama's speech may not have been a home run, but Romney is so bad that even with a less than
stellar speech, Obama got a bump from his convention, while Mittens lost ground.


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Obama's speech may not have been a home run, but Romney is so bad that even with a less than
stellar speech, Obama got a bump from his convention, while Mittens lost ground.


It all depends which polls one chooses to believe.  Some still have the race a dead heat .. some have Romney up; some of Obama up --- both within the margin of error.

As it stands now, the GOP is set to hold on to the US House and take the majority in the US Senate -- and the presidential contest is tight with Obama having to struggle to hold onto 8-10 states that he won in 2008 and which are now "battleground states".  

When the false buzz from the DNC becomes "yesterday's news" and voters realize that the Obama economy sucks and Iraq is still a mess and Syria is a mess and Afghanistan is a mess -- and Obamacare is mess and the impending Obama TAX HIKES (letting the Bush tax cuts expire) will only worsen the economy ---- oh .. and the fact that Obama plans to lay off a whole bunch of US servicemen and servicewomen.   Reality will set in -- and Mitt Romney will win by a nice margin.


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It all depends which polls one chooses to believe.  Some still have the race a dead heat .. some have Romney up; some of Obama up --- both within the margin of error.


Romney Campaign Concedes Obama is Ahead
President Obama "heads out of the national political conventions with a much clearer path to
winning, top advisers to Mitt Romney privately concede," Politico reports.

"The Romney campaign, while pleasantly surprised by Obama's lackluster prime-time performance,
said the post-convention bounce they hoped for fell well short of expectations and privately
lament that state-by-state polling numbers -- most glaringly in Ohio -- are working in the
president's favor."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/80949.html


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Romney Campaign Concedes Obama is Ahead
President Obama "heads out of the national political conventions with a much clearer path to
winning, top advisers to Mitt Romney privately concede," Politico reports.

"The Romney campaign, while pleasantly surprised by Obama's lackluster prime-time performance,
said the post-convention bounce they hoped for fell well short of expectations and privately
lament that state-by-state polling numbers -- most glaringly in Ohio -- are working in the
president's favor."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/80949.html


We still have the debates to go...Carter had a almost double digit lead on Reagan at this point in 1980...anything is possible....


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We still have the debates to go...Carter had a almost double digit lead on Reagan at this point in 1980...anything is possible....


The only way Obama can win a debate is if his teleprompter is allowed.  
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We still have the debates to go...Carter had a almost double digit lead on Reagan at this point in 1980...anything is possible....

Oh it's possible... when the GOP sees it has no chance of winning, they will pull out a "SWIFT BOAT" type
campaign, or similar scandal to push the election in their favor.  



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Romney Campaign Concedes Obama is Ahead
President Obama "heads out of the national political conventions with a much clearer path to
winning, top advisers to Mitt Romney privately concede," Politico reports.

"The Romney campaign, while pleasantly surprised by Obama's lackluster prime-time performance,
said the post-convention bounce they hoped for fell well short of expectations and privately
lament that state-by-state polling numbers -- most glaringly in Ohio -- are working in the
president's favor."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/80949.html


Of course he concedes...If you want Democrat voters to stay home, you tell them Obama has it in the bag.  On a cold november day, after working all day(for democrats that work), it is easy to justify not going to vote if you think Obama has it all wrapped up.


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Both conventions sucked! Empty suits and skirts on both sides. It was nothing more than a hollywood production that failed miserably.

Next stop.............the debates and we won't watch them either. Scripted and pre-written and full of lies on BOTH sides of this corrupt coin!


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The various polls show a close race -- even the ones that show Obama with a slight "bounce" from the convention.

Two things to keep in mind:
#1)  the election will be won or lost in the Electoral College -- Romney is ahead in all of the states that voted for McCain in 2008 and is tied or slightly ahead of Obama in 8 or 10 states (and close behind in about 4 states) that Obama won in 2008.  Which means Romney only has to carry 5 or 6 of those states to win.

#2) Obama is an incumbent who is fighting for his political life to barely hold on to the states he won the first time around.  For an incumbent, he is just barely reaching into the 45-50% range in polls.   As one other poster already stated - Jimmy Carter was up by double digits at this time in 1980 and lost big time.  In the next 8 weeks, the race will tighten up, the economy will not get any better and most Independents and Undecideds will break for the challenger - Romney.

By the way, my sources tell me that the national Democrats have pretty much conceded that the GOP will win a majority in the US Senate and hold on to their majority in the US House.  Furthermore, a number of Democrats who are interested in running for President in 2016 have actually determined that they stand a better chance of being elected in 2016 if Romney wins in 2012 -- thus they have chosen to sit on the sidelines and not really fight to get Obama reelected.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
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