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People that pretend to care about the homless are very anoying.
Not anymore annoying than a self righteous do gooder. |
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| September 6, 2012, 8:08pm |
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Not anymore annoying than a self righteous do gooder.
I happen to have faux radar and you are a big blip on the screen. And the more you talk the bigger it gets. |
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I happen to have faux radar and you are a big blip on the screen. And the more you talk the bigger it gets.
...and your self righteousness grows at the same pace. |
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| Libertarian4life |
| September 6, 2012, 9:17pm |
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People that pretend to care about the homless are very anoying.
Speaking out about cops murdering the homeless isn't pretending to care, genius. The cops are the ones pretending to care. |
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| September 6, 2012, 9:34pm |
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Speaking out about cops murdering the homeless isn't pretending to care, genius.
The cops are the ones pretending to care.
Sorry, but your care and concern for the homeless is overshadowed by your hardon for cops. |
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| Libertarian4life |
| September 6, 2012, 10:03pm |
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Sorry, but your care and concern for the homeless is overshadowed by your hardon for cops.
It's called caring about police victims. You are the one drooling for a cop's hardon. It's not just the homeless. Cops are turning the entire country into a war zone. Being against violent gun toting killers on both sides isn't having a hardon for cops. People like you just feel better labeling people who speak out against death and violence as disruptive anto law and order types. The facts are that cops cause as much death and violence as the gangs. Drug enforcement has been militarized. Another undeclared war with executions being allowed without arrest, trial or conviction. Stop defending war, copsucker. |
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All these "bad cop" stories seem to portray the majority of cops fit this description. I don't see it that way
at all. I know a few cops, both local and state. They are good honest men & women and try to do the best
for the community under difficult circumstances.
IMO, The cops in this story are likely criminals and should be prosecuted as such. Just like anyone in authority,
there needs to be strict supervision and a code of honesty for the system to work well. When a community
turns it's back and pretends not to see small instances of 'cop abuse', they promote and condone more serious
violations and in the end, bring down the entire force to the level of the worst offender.
Just wondering...
~ Among your local police force... what percentage of YOUR force do you consider typical of this story?
~ Same question for Local Sheriff?
~ Same question for NY state police? |
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| September 7, 2012, 8:29am |
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All these "bad cop" stories seem to portray the majority of cops fit this description. I don't see it that way at all. I know a few cops, both local and state. They are good honest men & women and try to do the best for the community under difficult circumstances.
I wonder if you hold the Catholic Church to the same standard. I'm pretty sure you don't be a religious organization the same benefit of the doubt of it just a "few" bad priests. |
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All these "bad cop" stories ...
Again, you miss the point entirely. It is not about bad cops. It is about allowing these deaths to become allowable systematic practices. But you aren't the type to let innocent blood stand in the way of your government taking care of business. |
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I wonder if you hold the Catholic Church to the same standard. I'm pretty sure you don't be a religious organization the same benefit of the doubt of it just a "few" bad priests.
There are a few bad priests... in some places, they have been protected and their crimes have been hushed up... this just promotes the behavior. IMO, Most priests are good people... but that has nothing to do with the abusers. Every priest who's committed a crime should be prosecuted... AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH SHOULD LEAD THE FIGHT TO FIND THESE PRIESTS AND BRING THEM TO JUSTICE... otherwise they are as guilty as the abusers. |
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Again, you miss the point entirely.
Itis not about bad cops.
It is about allowing these deaths to become allowable systematic practices.
But you aren't the type to let innocent blood stand in the way of your government taking care of business
"It is about allowing these deaths to become allowable systematic practices"There will always be a few bad cops. IMO, that is unavoidable. A good system should be set up to find these cops and eliminate them from the force. There however should NOT be bad police forces... that is a systematic very serious problem. Some cities have citizens review boards that are independent of the city govt. State and possibly federal oversight should also be mandatory... especially when there is more than just a 'bad cop' issue. |
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| Libertarian4life |
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"It is about allowing these deaths to become allowable systematic practices"
There will always be a few bad cops. IMO, that is unavoidable. A good system should be set up to find
these cops and eliminate them from the force.
There however should NOT be bad police forces... that is a systematic very serious problem. Some cities
have citizens review boards that are independent of the city govt. State and possibly federal oversight
should also be mandatory... especially when there is more than just a 'bad cop' issue.
Not about bad cops. It's about police powers to execute without a trial. Something that you accept. Because killing the innocent is acceptable behavior to you. |
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Not about bad cops.
It's about police powers to execute without a trial.
Something that you accept.
Because killing the innocent is acceptable behavior to you.
(OK L4life... we'll do it your way. ) Yea I love the cops killing innocent people! And you love grinding up 3rd graders to make Italian sausage. Real productive huh? |
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(OK L4life... we'll do it your way. )
Yea I love the cops killing innocent people!
And you love grinding up 3rd graders to make Italian sausage.
Real productive huh?
I never said you loved it. You accept it as systematic behavior that will continue, over and over. I don't. That makes me anti government and anti cop to the supporters of both. I am anti death of the innocent and pro life. I also support pro choice in family matters. Police executions must be stopped. Drone executions must be stopped. We can do it with our votes, or the enemies being created will retaliate. Then you will demand retribution for their retribution. The innocent died on 911. So we invaded Iraq killing tens of thousands of the innocent in retribution. The innocent died in Hiroshima. The innocent die at the hands of police. The innocent die at the hands of drone operators. Each will bring Karmic retribution. You would rather sit and wait to be blown up. I would rather stop crimes against humanity being performed by killing the innocent routinely. It's just a matter of time before the world court lines up the world against the US. Either you support the right to not be killed as an innocent victim, or you accept the deaths and the blood is on your hands. |
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I never said you loved it.
You accept it as systematic behavior that will continue, over and over.
I don't.
Neither do i.
That makes me anti government and anti cop to the supporters of both.
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I am anti death of the innocent and pro life.
Me too.
I also support pro choice in family matters.
Me too.
Police executions must be stopped.
We agree.
Drone executions must be stopped.
If you are posting about the thread...COP EXECUTIONS, I agree.
In war, what you are posting as "executions" by drones are to me a part of war. Artillery, Sniper, Aerial
bombing, rifle... they are all implements of war... this thread is about COPS not WAR.
We can do it with our votes, or the enemies being created will retaliate.
Then you will demand retribution for their retribution.
?????
The innocent died on 911.
YUP
So we invaded Iraq killing tens of thousands of the innocent in retribution.
NOPE! We invaded Afghanistan... GWB invaded Iraq for OIL, not 911 (unless you listen to Fox)
The innocent died in Hiroshima.
YUP
The innocent die at the hands of police.
Sometimes
The innocent die at the hands of drone operators.
Sometimes, but that is not the intent.
Each will bring Karmic retribution.
Karma???
You would rather sit and wait to be blown up.
Nope!
I would rather stop crimes against humanity being performed by killing the innocent routinely.
Me too
It's just a matter of time before the world court lines up the world against the US.
I don't see it that way, but you have your opinion.
Either you support the right to not be killed as an innocent victim, or you accept the deaths and the blood
is on your hands.
I don't see it that way, but you have your opinion.
Starting at the beginning: YOUR POST: It's about police powers to execute without a trial.~I'm against that (of course) except in rare instances of SWAT teams killing in a situation that saves innocent lives. If you are not referring to a SWAT team, then I am against police executions. Something that you accept.No I don't. I understand it exists and should be eliminated. Because killing the innocent is acceptable behavior to you.And grinding up third graders to make Italian sausage is acceptable to you??? Again... telling me what is acceptable to me is about as productive as me telling you what is acceptable to you. (is that the only way you can express yourself?) |
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