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55tbird
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I don't think I can verify it, but I thought I had heard that 67% of Schenectady is receiving one form of government assistance, or the other.


It wouldn't surprise me at all. Most of the business owners, police and firemen don't live in the city. I'd love to see the percentage of owner occupied homes too.


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It wouldn't surprise me at all. I'd love to see the percentage of owner occupied homes too.


Falling by the second. You can't sell so you rent. Find some DSS "clients" and get a check straight from the County. And the implosion continues. Hamilton Hill has exploded into Mt Pleasant, Vale and up Eastern Avenue. The entire County is on the verge of collapse. But nobody say nuthin. And the Gazetto is touting painted fire plugs.
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I don't think I can verify it, but I thought I had heard that 67% of Schenectady is receiving one form of government assistance, or the other.


Most of Schenectady is poor.

As soon as anyone can afford to, they flee from the City,

Downtown millionaires don't live in Schenectady.

I do not have a problem with feeding hungry people.

I have a problem with feeding corporate giants with grants, loans and tax exemptions.

Don't forget, people applying for welfare, medicaid, food stamps and HEAP provide tons of documentation verifying their actual need.

Corporate giants attend a dinner party at Golub's mansion and get millions.

Only bitter "T" party extremists complain about their suspected fears that some poor person may be getting some scraps that doesn't really deserve it. Food stamps, welfare, handicapped permits, etc.

These people are screened by government employees and still the T party extremists must complain, out of traditional conservative values hammered into their heads.

And yes, I mean the extremist American Taliban Conservatives, when I say the T party.

These are the freaks that are handing the election to Obama.

Moderate Republicans fear the T party extremists.

You Conservative extremists here call me a Liberal.

The Liberal extremists call me a right winger.

I am pro life and pro choice.

I am anti war and pr-life.

I am anti abortion and pro life.

I am anti death penalty and pro life.

I am anti government intrusion into my life.

I am anti government trampling of rights, to travel freely and  be secure in their
personal property, except under the issue of a warrant.

These views piss off the T party extremists, as well as the Liberal extremists.



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BTW   Henry...it's none of your business what people have in their wallets........looking over someone's shoulder is not very American.....
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BTW   Henry...it's none of your business what people have in their wallets........looking over someone's shoulder is not very American.....


It's not looking over someone's shoulder when they make the person put back items not deemed appropriate by the authorities, for "those people" to consume.

Like I said, I don't have a problem paying my fair share to help those in need.

Downtown millionaires are not the needy.

They are the greedy.

Without government and metroplex intervention, downtown would now be small and local family businesses.

Not corporate whore businesses that use profits  for their employees and clients to live elsewhere.

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It wouldn't surprise me at all. Most of the business owners, police and firemen don't live in the city. I'd love to see the percentage of owner occupied homes too.


I'd like to see the percent of Metroplex funded dollars that reside in the city.

Oh wait, I have it right here.

None!

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I don't buy these people are getting scraps when I see them getting top notch cuts of meat and a shopping cart overflowing with junk food, in the mean time those who don't accept gov assistance watch their shopping cart get less and less full because of the price jumps. I see everyday the so called less fortunate and let me tell you many are living better then the middle class, I'm talking new cars, big screen TV's, name brand clothes, $150 shoes, $1000 stereos in their cars, cellphones etc. What these people actually need is to know is what it is really like to be poor, instead all they learned is dependecy on the system.  It used to be being poor wasn't rewarded because it gave those people motivation to make something of themselves, what motivation do they have now when they're getting their rent, food, healthcare, and everything else in life for free.


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The City of Schenectady is a ghetto by NYS design.  The poor and minorities are confined to these areas until they are put into prison.  Nazi's kept Jews in the Ghettos until they were sent to the camps.  The Schenectady ghettos are expanding.  I hate to be the barer of bad news, but the planners have a purpose for Schenectady and it isn't Beverly Hills.  Moving out is the only solution.


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I don't buy these people are getting scraps when I see them getting top notch cuts of meat and a shopping cart overflowing with junk food, in the mean time those who don't accept gov assistance watch their shopping cart get less and less full because of the price jumps. I see everyday the so called less fortunate and let me tell you many are living better then the middle class, I'm talking new cars, big screen TV's, name brand clothes, $150 shoes, $1000 stereos in their cars, cellphones etc. What these people actually need is to know is what it is really like to be poor, instead all they learned is dependecy on the system.  It used to be being poor wasn't rewarded because it gave those people motivation to make something of themselves, what motivation do they have now when they're getting their rent, food, healthcare, and everything else in life for free.


So your complaint is that you don't believe the government is properly screening applicants?

You want more government? oversight?

Being mad at the recipients comes off as selfish, jealous and greedy.

If you have an issue with the way they are screening, then you should take action to make changes.

I firmly believe that millions are already wasted on the screening process.

More is spent on screening and combating fraud, than has ever been proven to be saved, by the new tougher requirements.

Try looking in Neil Golub's shopping cart.

The metroplex steals millions.

But you are worried that the poor are dressed too nice for you.



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The City of Schenectady is a ghetto by NYS design.  The poor and minorities are confined to these areas until they are put into prison.  Nazi's kept Jews in the Ghettos until they were sent to the camps.  The Schenectady ghettos are expanding.  I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the planners have a purpose for Schenectady and it isn't Beverly Hills.  Moving out is the only solution.


I can't find anything to disagree with in your statement.

Targeted enforcement and targeted code enforcement fits right into your master plan.

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I can't find anything to disagree with in your statement.

Targeted enforcement and targeted code enforcement fits right into your master plan.



The Schenectady City Schools have metal detectors that students must pass though.  That isn't preparing them for college or a job, but it prepares them to be processed for their incarceration.


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The metroplex steals millions.

But you are worried that the poor are dressed too nice for you.



So the abuse by metroplex is bad but the abuse of welfare is ok to you I'm against both by the way. So explain to me how creating more dependency on the government is going to help us get back on the right track or better yet help create a more Libertarian thinking society, you know that of self reliance and personal responsibility.



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So the abuse by metroplex is bad but the abuse of welfare is ok to you I'm against both by the way. So explain to me how creating more dependency on the government is going to help us get back on the right track or better yet help create a more Libertarian thinking society, you know that of self reliance and personal responsibility.



Personal welfare abuse must be proven. You are basing your thoughts on personal items that someone with a benefit card used.

You have no idea the circumstances of that person's life.

I believe the system is overburdened already with excessive oversight.

Your disagreement isn't with the recipient.

You just want to force them into your mold.

Libertarianism by force isn't Libertarianism.

Your issue is that you want no government support of anyone.

I don't disagree.

You just want the results without changing the causes first.

I happen to feel that if my tax dollars are making someone's life better, it is money well spent.

I don't begrudge these non-homeowners a pair of nice shoes or a nice car.

I just think that you are focusing on the minor problem, not the enormous tax stealing corporate giants stealing millions from us.

Metroplex and the tax thieves that divide the booty with them are the real people that you should be angry with.

They caused the poverty, causing the welfare programs, causing your outrage at the final results.

Remember, homeowners don't get welfare.

They get the bills.

Corporate giant business owners get the welfare, grants. loans and tax exemptions.

But you are concerned about a pair of Nikes.

Libertarians are against the forceful taking of the taxes.

You seem to be leaning towards the T party solutions of attack the poor and needy, displaying jealousy, indignity and offense at the thought of a freeloader getting a little more help than he is entitled to.

Government agents screen these people a hundred times more than they used to.

You are merely showing your jealousy, and intolerance of the poor and the needy, by making broad statements of abuse because of a pair of sneakers.

Sorry if it offends you but, people don't have to wear rags and push the shopping cart home 22 blocks so that you will feel better.

The poor are victims of corporations and taxation.

They have no representation.

All the representation represents the corporations.





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But you are concerned about a pair of Nikes.


Isn't Nike a Corporation?  You don't agree with supply side subsidies, but you are fine with demand side subsidies?  I don't think the corporation cares either way.  They are getting their money either way.  Demand side subsidies funnel the money through the local municipalities in the form of sales tax revenue which funds Metroplex.  

The concern should be with subsidized consumerism. Who sets the standard of who deserves more or better than what they currently have? Would you begrudge me a tax subsidized Corvette?  Hey, I can always say it creates jobs for Union Labor.


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Jealousy not at all, I could go down and collect every form of government assistance avilable if I wanted to, I meet their goals to collect, however I decide not to, me and my family do without many luxaries to get by. Point being I don't feel entitled as you said to others money, I will go a step further and say I'm not entitled to others money. As far as forcing libertarianism I don't know, yes you and me should lead as examples by being self reliant but others should know that they shouldn't force us into their version of an entitlement society. That is how far gone we are as a country, we have to beg and fight to keep the fruits of our labor which right now is a losing battle due to those who feel "entitled" to our money. Sad part is the problem is only getting worse and we have generations of people who don't know what responsibility means, instead of offering just enough to get by we offer them a free pass on everything. Poor should be poor, they should know that to make it they have to take responsibility, that is not what we are doing and I see it every day.

As far as representation goes they have the same options as all of us, however do you think they want a representative that will eliminate their free ride or a representative that promises them even more. The dems have used promises to keep these people loyal, they give them enough to be happy but never enough to make something of themselves, success is now a bad word and comes under attack, if you make to much lets tax you more, oh you're succeeding lets place some more regulations on your business.


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