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DNC Welcomes Radical islam…What The?
August 24, 2012
Radical Islam Joins the DNC

Tuesday, August 21st at 8:30AM EDT
Starting at the end of this month the Democratic National Convention will open with a focus on Islam.  20,000 Muslims are expected to attend according to the Bureau of Indigenous Muslim Affairs (BIMA), the national Muslim American non-profit coordinating the two days of events they claim are non-political.  ”Jumah at the DNC” begins August 29 and will start with a Friday afternoon jummah prayer followed by other unnamed programs and events, leading up to the Islamic Regal Banquet. The following day will be an all day Islamic Cultural and Fun Fest which will include discussions on the topics of Islamaphobia, Anti-Shariah, Middle Eastern Crisis, Patriot Act, National Defense Authorization Act and more.  The purpose, according to BIMA, is to attract national and international attention to the plight of American Muslims and to hold political parties accountable for issues that affect them.  However, not all Muslims feel that BIMA represents them and M. Zuhdi Jasser M.D., Founder and President of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, has expressed serious concerns.

    It is troubling that the Democratic National Convention has decided to promote and lend its name and national political platform to the organizers of the “Jummah at the DNC”. The leaders of this event – Jibril Hough and Imam Siraj Wahhaj as advertised are no moderates. They are radicals. These individuals embrace Islamist supremacy and have demonstrated support for radical ideologies.

    A quick Google search by the DNC would have shown them that Hough and Wahhaj are leaders in the separatist American Islamist movement. While they may be able to get a few thousand Muslims to attend the event, they are NOT going to be mainstream Muslims.  Most will likely come from Hough and Wahhaj’s radical networks that have long been entrenched in the Charlotte area. Make no mistake they are part of the Islamist movement.

    This is not about their right of assembly; this group under a different name pulled the same stunt at the US capitol in 2009 claiming 20k and getting 2-3k. THIS IS ABOUT the DNC calling this an “official function” listing these radicals as typical of the DNC community and more importantly about this organization speaking out AS representing supposedly typical American Muslims (or “Mainstream”).

    If that is who the DNC is consorting with then all Americans, Democrats should be concerned. There are many patriotic Muslims who are part of both parties, and when radical ideologues like this do a demonstration of “solidarity” in the name of our faith and choose an imam like Siraj Wahhaj who I saw with my own eyes in 1995 seditiously say it his duty and our duty as Muslims to replace the US Constitution with the Quran- then we need to speak up!
    Their jummah (group) prayer is supposedly against the Patriot Act, the NYPD, and Islamophobia and is actually NOT about our democracy but about empowering their Islamist and MB (Muslim Brotherhood) sympathetic groups into the very fabric of the political system so that Americans become anesthetized. We need American Muslims to speak up and marginalize these radicals. The DNC needs to understand and reject them because of their radical history and ideas.

    They use our American Muslim identity to speak as “one community” as a political unit or as a “bloc vote” – a political Islamist party when in fact most us Muslims don’t want that political unity and seek reform against their ideology that seeks to hijack our community. They do not represent us.   http://zionstrumpet.com/category/shariah-law/
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Yet, when the Catholic Bishops asked to say an opening / morning prayer, they were refused.

Speaks volumes.
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Quoted from 1975
Yet, when the Catholic Bishops asked to say an opening / morning prayer, they were refused.

Speaks volumes.

It's all about votes... from this to selective enforcement of immigration laws.
To a politician, it doesn't matter what we spend, who we let in, or how we pay for it, all that matters is the next election...and kicking the can down the road, of course.


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they may be against abortion


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Yet, when the Catholic Bishops asked to say an opening / morning prayer, they were refused.

Speaks volumes.


There are over 2.7 Muslims in the USA.  There are less than 500 Catholic bishops.
Those Catholic Bishops profess the One True Faith... and follow the Catholic church's laws...
However,
The majority of Catholics in the usa USE BIRTH CONTROL, which disagrees with those bishops...
and the rate of women getting abortions is higher among Catholics, than among Protestants... (The abortion
rate for Catholic women was 22 per 1,000 women; the rate for Protestants was 18 per 1,000 women)
I guess it IS appropriate that a Catholic Bishop would spout his prayers from the GOP pulpit when most
Catholic women ignore the Bishops laws, and most women will ignore Romney on election day.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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There are over 2.7 Muslims in the USA.  There are less than 500 Catholic bishops.
Those Catholic Bishops profess the One True Faith... and follow the Catholic church's laws...
However,
The majority of Catholics in the usa USE BIRTH CONTROL, which disagrees with those bishops...
and the rate of women getting abortions is higher among Catholics, than among Protestants... (The abortion
rate for Catholic women was 22 per 1,000 women; the rate for Protestants was 18 per 1,000 women)
I guess it IS appropriate that a Catholic Bishop would spout his prayers from the GOP pulpit when most
Catholic women ignore the Bishops laws, and most women will ignore Romney on election day.


There's "over 2.7 Muslims" ?  So, what, 2,8 or maybe 3?  Assuming you mean MILLION - I'll play along

The majority of Americans (76% to 80%) identify themselves as Christians. According to the American Religious Identification Survey (ARIS), those who identify themselves as Catholics make up about 25% of the adult population, while "other Christians" account for another 51%. According to the same survey, other religions (including, for example, Judaism, Buddhism, Islam, and Hindu) collectively make up about 4% of the adult population, another 15% of the adult population claim no religious affiliation, and 5.2% said they did not know, or they refused to reply.[6] According to ARIS, religious belief varies considerably by region. The lowest rate is in the West with 59% reporting a belief in God, and the highest rate in the South at 86%

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_States

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Yet, when the Catholic Bishops asked to say an opening / morning prayer, they were refused.

Speaks volumes.


From the party of inclusion? yes, it does.


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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Yet, when the Catholic Bishops asked to say an opening / morning prayer, they were refused.
Speaks volumes.

Quoted from 55tbird

From the party of inclusion? yes, it does.


NOTE TO OTHER POSTERS ON THIS BOARD:
You will often read OPINIONS expressed on this board that are offered as if they were FACTS.  It seems
certain Right Leaning posters just make it up as they go along!  

From today's NY Times:
Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan of New York has accepted an invitation to deliver the
closing prayer at next week’s Democratic National Convention, following
through on a promise that he made when accepting the same role at the
Republican convention.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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NOTE TO OTHER POSTERS ON THIS BOARD:
You will often read OPINIONS expressed on this board that are offered as if they were FACTS.  It seems
certain Right Leaning posters just make it up as they go along!  

From today's NY Times:
Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan of New York has accepted an invitation to deliver the
closing prayer at next week’s Democratic National Convention, following
through on a promise that he made when accepting the same role at the
Republican convention.


My point was an OPENING prayer, not a closing, afterthought.
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NOTE TO OTHER POSTERS ON THIS BOARD:
You will often read OPINIONS expressed on this board that are offered as if they were FACTS.  It seems
certain Right Leaning posters just make it up as they go along!  

From today's NY Times:
Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan of New York has accepted an invitation to deliver the
closing prayer at next week’s Democratic National Convention, following
through on a promise that he made when accepting the same role at the
Republican convention.

Two days of celebrating Islam followed by a Catholic prayer just before the riggers break down the stage sets..yup, sounds like equality to me.


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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Two days of celebrating Islam followed by a Catholic prayer just before the riggers break down the stage sets..yup, sounds like equality to me.


When nobody is there.

Aint that special
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