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Everyone who tells their story at the GOP convention, tells of "IMMIGRATION".  Their parents or grandparents were
IMMIGRANTS...  Anyone see a problem here?  
The Romney/Ryan gang hammer IMMIGRATION for months, wanting to go to extremes to arrest, capture, detain
deport, immigrants... even to the point of taking American's... born in this country but undocumented, and forcing
these Americans to leave our country...  Then Willard lines the stage with Sons, Daughters and Grandkids of
IMMIGRANTS.
They want to make ENGLISH THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE of AMERICA, yet they welcome Hispanics to speak on their
stage in their attempt to capture the Latino Vote.  ENGLISH ONLY ... (unless it will buy me one vote then it's ok).
Scan the shouting, delegates looking for color... It's a sea of white... with the exception of the stage, where
women and color are in their token designated space.  



starting to feel like a peg in a board.....the dems do the same


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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A Paul Ryan Convention LIE!

The man assumed office almost four years ago -– isn’t it about time he assumed responsibility?"

Ryan then noted that Obama, while campaigning for president, promised that a GM plant in Wisconsin would
not shut down. "That plant didn’t last another year. It is locked up and empty to this day. And that’s how
it is in so many towns today, where the recovery that was promised is nowhere in sight," Ryan said.


Except Obama didn't promise that.
And the plant closed in December 2008 -- while George W. Bush was president.

Americans should look at this LIE and hold Ryan accountable.  This speech has been researched and rehearsed
over and over... yet the LIE wasn't removed.  
I guess if you are speaking to people who watch FoxSnooze every day... you don't need to tell the truth...
They are used to accepting LIES as Truth.  

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/30/paul-ryan-address_n_1841819.html


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Box don't start with lies because the Obama administration has 4 years of them to explain. Now about your immigrant comment, all the speakers were talking about a foreign concept to Democrats, the legal immigrant.
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Box don't start with lies because the Obama administration has 4 years of them to explain. Now about your immigrant comment, all the speakers were talking about a foreign concept to Democrats, the legal immigrant.


I love the way LIES will get buried in a post as long as the poster can cite some other lies...
It's as if as long as both sides tell an equal number of lies, the somehow balance out and even the score,
erasing the lie.  

If Romney tells a lie... no one needs to refute the lie... discuss the lie or even acknowledge the lie... they just
site a lie from Obama and all lies disappear.

Oh yea... I'll see your lie and raise ya two more lies... ante up!
It may work for you but if that is your intention... to balance all lies... then there is no point in the discussion.
All lies are equal and all lies balance.  Everyone shut up!    


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Back to Paul Ryan's LIE, misstatement...
Does it matter that a speech so carefully crafted where each word is put under a microscope and dissected
over and over... turns out to be a LIE untruth?
Does it matter if it's true or not...or is the point to sound good in the speech and disregard the truth?

Is the target of these LIES nonfactual statements so naive that the truth is optional?  

Is a LIE Non FACT as good as the truth as long as the audience will accept it as true?


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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You also posted a lie about no blacks being at the RNC but I saw many blacks in attendance. Obama has created a committee to watch every speaker then check the background of every speaker to try to discredit them in any way possible. That's where you're getting your information from and you only look at the Rep short comings never the Dems. Try to be fair for once in your life.
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You also posted a lie about no blacks being at the RNC but I saw many blacks in attendance. Obama has created a committee to watch every speaker then check the background of every speaker to try to discredit them in any way possible. That's where you're getting your information from and you only look at the Rep short comings never the Dems. Try to be fair for once in your life.


Speaking of LIES...
Your post:
" Obama has created a committee to watch every speaker then check the background of every
speaker to try to discredit them in any way possible. That's where you're getting your information
from
and you only look at the Rep short comings never the Dems"

is full of em'
Shadow... I POSTED THE LINK WHERE I GOT MY INFORMATION FROM... LOOK FOR YOURSELF ABOVE!
The Huffington Post.  
Again... when you read about a LIE, you only need to site a LIE by the opposition and some how, for some
people
the LIE somehow becomes invisible.  

I'm sure there will be lies enough when the Dems have their convention... but what does that have to do
with the LIES told by Ryan at the REP convention???


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It's an attack Ryan has used before, and one that the Detroit News has called
inaccurate: "In fact, Obama made no such promise and the plant halted production in
December 2008, when President George W. Bush was in office,



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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You also posted a lie about no blacks being at the RNC but I saw many blacks in attendance.


Black, white, yellow, purple, male, female.............blah blah blah..............all I see are AMERICANS.............no?

The liberal nut cases have got to STOP dividing this country!! OMG!!

Who gives a crap who was in attendance............OMG!!!!
They were all AMERICANS!!





When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Both sides bend the truth, it's part of the corrupt system of getting elected, but some things that are said are just plain lies. You know that there were blacks present at the RNC, the Huffington Post gets their marching orders from the DNC and Media Matters, who formed the committee to discredit the RNC speakers.I'm sure that the Reps will do the same thing when the Dems have their convention.
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Black, white, yellow, purple, male, female.............blah blah blah..............all I see are AMERICANS.............no?
The liberal nut cases have got to STOP dividing this country!! OMG!!
Who gives a crap who was in attendance............OMG!!!!
They were all AMERICANS!!


OK Shadow... I LIED!  (actually an exaggeration) but we'll call it a lie.  SO ya got me.  I lied.
NOW...
Can we continue.  I lied so that makes Paul Ryan's LIE OK, RIGHT??? as long as we keep it even???
Is that how your brain works?  One LIE balances another LIE and in your mind, no LIE took place.

Very strange way of telling the truth.  


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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I agree they all lie, it's part of the corrupt system of getting elected. It all goes back to the old saying of how do you know a politician is lying, his lips are moving and those days have gort to stop. The citizens of this country deserve to know the truth and anyone who decieves to get elected or while ibn office should be voted out.
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Black, white, yellow, purple, male, female.............blah blah blah..............all I see are AMERICANS.............no?

The liberal nut cases have got to STOP dividing this country!! OMG!!

Who gives a crap who was in attendance............OMG!!!!
They were all AMERICANS!!






humans are like animals when it comes to sight seeing......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I agree they all lie, it's part of the corrupt system of getting elected. It all goes back to the old saying of how do you know a politician is lying, his lips are moving and those days have gort to stop. The citizens of this country deserve to know the truth and anyone who decieves to get elected or while ibn office should be voted out.


OK Shadow let me show ya how it works.

My LIE:
"Shadow is a pervert who steals ladies panties from the laundromat!"

Shadow's  LIE:
"Box steals candy from little kids at the playground"

There... No lies exist.  We cannot discuss your panties fetish lie, or that I steal candy from kids lie... because
BOTH SIDES DO IT... so no lie occurred.
Makes no sense does it?  Yet you persist.
You may be innocent of stealing panties... but since both sides lied... it won't be discussed and let stand as if
it were true.  

Had enough of ridiculous?


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OK Shadow let me show ya how it works.

My LIE:
"Shadow is a pervert who steals ladies panties from the laundromat!"

Shadow's  LIE:
"Box steals candy from little kids at the playground"

There... No lies exist.  We cannot discuss your panties fetish lie, or that I steal candy from kids lie... because
BOTH SIDES DO IT... so no lie occurred.
Makes no sense does it?  Yet you persist.
You may be innocent of stealing panties... but since both sides lied... it won't be discussed and let stand as if
it were true.  

Had enough of ridiculous?


and you have just summed up our fabulous elected 'smart folk'.....

never speak a truth just talk about the other guys half truths......regardless of party


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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