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Yup

Libertarian - so if they think the city is okay, then that is reality as well?

Grew up on the Hill and lived there until I was 22 years old.  Don't need a lecture from anyone on this board about the problems on Hamilton Hill.

None of your business where I live.  

You know the argument about where police can cut the other way.  If an officer lived in the City and knew their kids would have to go to school with the same kids' whose family and friends they arrest, might be less inclined to be proactive.  Their families and proerty could be targeted.  I can appreciate both sides of the argument, but this assertion that the police do not care because they do not live in the city is waved around like it is fact, and I'm not so sure taht's the case.

RE: targted enforcement - occupying army - they send teh officers wheer the demand is - crime stats have historically indicated that Hamiliton Hill, Mont Pleasant, and more recently Central State and parts of the Northside are a problem.

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None of your business where I live.  

  Yup that's true

Just tired from being kept awake most of the night again : (

war zone

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RE: targted enforcement - occupying army - they send teh officers wheer the demand is - crime stats have historically indicated that Hamiliton Hill, Mont Pleasant, and more recently Central State and parts of the Northside are a problem.

So by this statement is it safe to assume that crime is spreading thoughout the city, despite city leaders statements to the contrary?

rforpres - I hear ya.  I will pass the info on.  It's a chronic problem.  you move them along and they bother someobne else.  

that's what happens when you don't have to get up and go to work. you can stay up all night and be a pain in everyone else' a**.

Majestyk -

I think some neignborhoods are going to be less plagued by serious crime problems (e.g., Bellevue, Woodlawn, Upper Union).

One thing that does make a difference is one versus two family homes.  Problems spead across MP but north of 10th Aveneue, things are noticably better - why - owner occupied single family homes.  

It's a big problem and is going to take a while to address.  

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You know the argument about where police can cut the other way.  If an officer lived in the City and knew their kids would have to go to school with the same kids' whose family and friends they arrest, might be less inclined to be proactive.  Their families and proerty could be targeted.  

Yes, that is the police argument, once again valuing the safety of their family and themselves over the people that pay their salaries.  

One thing they are addressing which will help is to tear down all the vacant, unsalvagable properties.


Another thing is keep the kids busier.  


And, have a zoning ordinance which limits those bodega stores to only so many within a certain square mile area.   The only purpose those stores should serve is to provide necessities for the locals.  Why you need eight within a two block arae is beyond me and they are a lowlife magnet

cicero how would putting their own families at risk make the citzines any safer?  

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Grew up on the Hill and lived there until I was 22 years old.  Don't need a lecture from anyone on this board about the problems on Hamilton Hill.

None of your business where I live.  

You know the argument about where police can cut the other way.  If an officer lived in the City and knew their kids would have to go to school with the same kids' whose family and friends they arrest, might be less inclined to be proactive.  Their families and proerty could be targeted.  I can appreciate both sides of the argument, but this assertion that the police do not care because they do not live in the city is waved around like it is fact, and I'm not so sure taht's the case.

As for myself I will give you the benefit of the doubt that the Police who do not live in the city do care about the city.   But they might care even MORE if their homes/quality of life issues etc. were at stake.   And this does not include the economic impact of their paying property taxes here, improving the homes they would own here, which improve the neighborhoods, and any residual $$$$$ they would be spending here (groceries etc.)  and improving the sales tax bottom line with their taxable purchases.   It just seems that since the force has more pertinent knowledge of the crime that does exist here than anyone else, makes their decision to not live here and raise a famiy here more obvious as to why/how they arrived at such a decision.   But it's not just the Police who should live here but all city employees.   Give/put back to the tree that bears your fruit, and help the city grow.

how things have changed

Part of my childhood was spent in Bellvue on Jerome Ave. One of my best friends father was a policeman and he was
respected and his kids did not get picked on cause their Dad was a cop.

This is off topic but related.

A couple of friends and I were hanging out near westside Ave on Austin Place and behind a brick house near the wooded are I found a "package"  Opened it and there was alot of paper with numbers.

We were maybe 10 years old at the time.

Took it to my friends Dad (the cop) he took one look at it. took one of the papers and put a lit match to it, and poof it
was gone.

He asked where we found it etc and left for the police station.

So outside we go and theres a car driving around.  Some guy asking who found something near the woods and if it was given to him he'd buy the kid a bike.

Turns out we had found numbers on flash paper.  When my parents realized a bookie was looking for me they were a little upset lol.

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cicero how would putting their own families at risk make the citzines any safer?  

Police might actually give a fu(k about the community they police instead of looking at it as a paycheck and pension to afford them their middle class lifestyle in the suburbs.