This is why Schenectady has devolved to this point and continues to decay. A person that I presume is in law enforcement explaining away assault, as long it isn't assault with a deadly weapon. The same person that has attempted to explain away this same misbehavior by the SPD. Drunk violent cops policing drunk violent citizens. Who is learning the behavior from who? Most sociologist would say that people follow leaders, people in perceived positions of authority.
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Couldn't agree more Cicero. Who's more at fault here: the adults who stood around cheering on or Visitor's decayed moral compass which is probably the norm for many of his coworkers?
Hate to say this, but way back when, when my brothers or I had gotten into a fight, a SURE WAY they ended was when an adult came around. Yep, I guess back in the 90's adults were authority figures, maybe Visitor can stop making excuses and start thinking of these kids as human beings - not hopeless cases.
They really need t stop Chick-A-Fil. How terrible their values are!
"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
How violent was the kid at rollarama that got tazed a while back?
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
First no one is making excuses - so stop putting words in my mouth
So, I suppose there were no school yard fighst when you were kids. That's what this appears to be. Someone should have broken it up but it was schoolyard fight. But as is typical on this site - people take everything thing they can and use it to try and prove their point.
If you knew anything about the fighting you can see these guys are getting tired and in fact, in not for concern about losing face- they wanted to sto
yep - every fist fight exca;ates into gunfire = ridiculous
rachel 72 and you're a damned liar re: me explaining, justifying, or rationailizing any of the acts of police misbehavior - I challenge you to find one post anywhere on this site where I have done that.
I thought you were better than that, guess I was wrong
Today isn't like the good old days where 2 people can fight and at the end of the day it was over, now people want retaliation and it ends up with either weapons being used or a group of people attacking 1 person. I couldn't even watch the whole bar fight video, it made me sick to watch those animals do that to someone, in that case I would justify that man getting revenge, I know damn well I would.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
rachel 72 and you're a damned liar re: me explaining, justifying, or rationailizing any of the acts of police misbehavior - I challenge you to find one post anywhere on this site where I have done that.
I thought you were better than that, guess I was wrong
Wow, SPD calling a citizen a damned liar, now THATS professional, eh?
First no one is making excuses - so stop putting words in my mouth
So, I suppose there were no school yard fighst when you were kids. That's what this appears to be. Someone should have broken it up but it was schoolyard fight. But as is typical on this site - people take everything thing they can and use it to try and prove their point.
If you knew anything about the fighting you can see these guys are getting tired and in fact, in not for concern about losing face- they wanted to sto
yep - every fist fight exca;ates into gunfire = ridiculous
"Kids are going to fight. Sets a poor example, but it happens - no one pulled a knife, no one got a gun".
If it was a "school yard" fight, there would have been teachers around to break it up, there's no "school" here, unless it' the school of hard knocks. Your analogy is flawed.
Not every fist fight "exacerbates" or "escalates" to gunfire, but all too often it DOES in Schenectady, Albany and other cities where crime is a MAJOR issue. You need to take off those rose colored koolaid glasses and see Schenectady as the RESIDENTS see Schenectady. When you're blinded by defending your own, or the blue line members, to appease bosses and bureaucrats, the world is pretty small. Try seeing the whole picture for a change.
Couldn't agree more Cicero. Who's more at fault here: the adults who stood around cheering on or Visitor's decayed moral compass which is probably the norm for many of his coworkers?
Hate to say this, but way back when, when my brothers or I had gotten into a fight, a SURE WAY they ended was when an adult came around. Yep, I guess back in the 90's adults were authority figures, maybe Visitor can stop making excuses and start thinking of these kids as human beings - not hopeless cases.
You know Visitor, I never said anything about police misconduct, I simply pointed out that you have accepted bad behavior and justified inaction.
For example, last week two teen boys were riding their bikes down the wrong side of the street after I was leaving MP. At the stop sign I said to them that they need to go with, not against traffic and then I said "because I don't want to see you getting hurt boys." You know what they said...."We're sorry". Yep.
These kids need role models, not more people tossing them to the curb.
If it was a "school yard" fight, there would have been teachers around to break it up, there's no "school" here, unless it' the school of hard knocks. Your analogy is flawed.
Did you see the 6 or 7 year olds in the background watching? They almost were squashed by the two fighters.
This is apparently culturally acceptable in this Schenectady community. This wasn't a typical school fight where the high school kids are watching high school kid get into a fight. This was in the middle of a neighborhood street. With spectators appearing to range from age 6 to their 20's.
This is a breakdown of society. When the role models and community leaders that are looked up to in our society are lying, cheating, greedy, corrupt, and violent - what we see in those videos is the results.
Always been hard times for some people in the city with high taxes etc. But with the escalating violence and no hope on the horizon it's not worth staying.
They need help, you will not get an argument from me.
I don't think there is as much friction between a lot of the younger kids as you think - just like crime, it emanates froma small percenatge of the community.
In fact, there are roles models who work hard to help these kids (e.g., George Rose, Wille, Deane). There are things for them to do. They need more but the situation is far from hopeless.
And I apooigize if I misread or misundrestood what you said.
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