Only strange He-She Earthworms that live in the attic -- screaming incomprehensibly-- argue with THEMSELVES online, over what He/She said.

Apparently the sales taxes aren't the only things plummeting in Schenectady County.

Seems like the moral character of each of their posters many alter-egos is sinking to a new low.

Kinda' hard to keep a party together when they stop taking their meds.

Quoted from rachel72

Apparently the sales taxes aren't the only things plummeting in Schenectady County.

Seems like the moral character of each of their posters many alter-egos is sinking to a new low.

Kinda' hard to keep a party together when they stop taking their meds.

Yes, it is sad when MikeChristine stops taking hi/her meds.   I understand his/her psychotic delusions get wilder and wilder without the meds.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Yes, it is sad when MikeChristine stops taking hi/her meds.   I understand his/her psychotic delusions get wilder and wilder without the meds.

Gee, I'm delusional?   My husband is delusional?    How?   How are we delusional to state that taxes are going up, property values are going down, the tax base is way down, and the dems are continuing wild uncontrolled spending while ignoring the residents of the city.


Gee, YOU are the one who says that county taxes are the lowest in 50 years but as you have not provided any evidence to support that statement, because it is NOT TRUE, you have proven YOU are the one who is delusional

Yes, it is sad when MikeChristine stops taking hi/her meds.   I understand his/her psychotic delusions get wilder and wilder without the meds.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Yes, it is sad when MikeChristine stops taking hi/her meds.   I understand his/her psychotic delusions get wilder and wilder without the meds.

Hmmm, let's see, the definition of delusional is:

1.    having false or unrealistic beliefs or opinions
2.    maintaining fixed false beliefs even when confronted with facts


Now, lets' see.   DV states that the city is getting better.   DV continues that fixed, false belief even when confronted with the FACTS---the FACTS and EVIDENCE  (from official sources) eveidence that PROVES that the city is getting worse and worse----tax base DRASTICALLY decreased (since the mayor of BS took over and continuing under Darth Vader), the home values are plummeting big time, houses don't sell even after a year on the market, Philip Morris is ILLEGALLY getting TWO STAR exemptions, the homeowners IN the city are struggling financially with incomes typically $37,000 a year and yet the dems make these homeowners pay the taxes of the downtown millionaires because the dems have handed out 100% exemptions from property & school taxes to the downtown wealthy and politically connected, that the city is currently in a whopping $5 MILLION hole and the mayor and dem members of the council have not even so much as laid off one employee, that the dem politically appointed assessment board does not even look at the grievances and merely denies every grievance (which is later overturned by the courts because the PROOF is that there is more than sufficient data to warrant an assessment reduction).

Talk about being delusional:

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Further -- my statements are FACTUAL ---   it is a FACT that county property tax rate  were HIGHER in 1970 than they are now,  there were welfare and entitlement programs back in 1970,...

  

DV has this fixed false belief that the tax rate is lower, but he has not provided not one, NOT ONE piece of evidence to support that statement about the tax rate.

So if your statement (about the property tax rate) is FACTUAL as you say, provide the facts, DV, provide the numbers.   Well????   OF COURSE you will NOT provide any numbers because your statement is FALSE, you have fixed, false belief which makes you delusional.

WE state FACTS AND provide the number and evidence to prove  facts, therefore neither Chris nor her husband are delusional!

The Gazetto made complete fools of themselves again on this issue. The headline screams about improvements in the 7 County area ignoring the big loss in Schenectady County. And what do you expect? With town and City taxes skyrocketing, with the DEM morons building a new home that even Albany can't afford, with the City in freefall with an incompetent Mayor who refuses to budget nor cut anything, this County is doomed. No amount of new bike rails, curbing and tree grates is going to turn it around. The City is going bankrupt and it will take the whole County down with it. Look at the new DSS office on Broadway. Symbolic of a cracked, corrupt County.

Quoted from rachel72

Come on, who needs retail!!

Why aren't those Bombers burritos bringing in the big sales tax dollars?

How about the $4.00 piece of cake at the Proctors pretentious wifi-charging coffee slop? Not helping the County either?

Not enough State workers buying goods downtown....oh wait...are the State workers there yet? No?????

Eat a burrito take a crap and whammmmooooo.....county septic jobs.....

The EVIDENCE was never posted.  

Quoted Text

Local News
CAPITAL REGION : Sales tax take up, led by local county Increase 3rd-largest outside of NYC
BY JOHN ENGER Gazette Reporter
Sales tax revenue surged in New York in April, May and June, and one of the biggest increases was recorded in Montgomery County.
   According to the state Department of Taxation and Finance, Montgomery County brought in nearly $7 million, 11.74 percent more than in the second quarter of 2011.
   It was the third-largest increase outside of New York City. Only Hamilton and Livingston counties had greater increases, up more than 19 percent and 12 percent, respectively.
   Montgomery County Treasurer Shawn Bowerman said the cause of the improvement is up for speculation.
   “It’s a total guess,” he said. “But with fuel prices, I think people were shopping closer to home.”
   Roughly a third of the $700,000 jump came from prior-period adjustments, which could have been caused by merchants fi ling their taxes late or fixing errors in taxes they’d already paid, Bowerman said. “Either way, it was corrected in our favor.”
   Many other area counties saw a big increase. Fulton County saw a 10 percent jump to a second-quarter total of $4.6 million.
   Saratoga County had a smaller but still sizeable increase, up 7 percent to $19 million, as did Albany County, with a 6.4 percent gain to $59.4 million.
   A few counties weren’t so lucky.
   Rensselaer County held steady at $19 million, growing less than 1 percent. County Chief Fiscal Offi - cer Mike Slawson said the lull was most likely due to the county’s 10 percent sales tax growth last year.
   Schenectady County’s secondquarter sales tax revenue actually fell 1.25 percent compared with a year earlier.

Soooooooooooooo!!!!!     Downtown is helping the city?????

Sooooooooo    What does the cheerleader for wild spending of taxpayer money on downtown have to say?????

We all notice he REFUSED to comment ON THE FACTS.


How is downtown an asset to the city?
How is downtown helping the city?????


This wild, uncontrolled spending of taxpayer money on downtown, combined with exempting downtown from paying property and school taxes, WHAT IS THE RESULT OF IT????

What is the result on:

1.  The homeowners' city tax bills?
2.  The homeowners' county tax bills?
3.  The homeowners' school tax bills?
4.  The tax base in the city?
5.  Home values
6.  The desirability to move INTO the city thru buying a house IN the city
7.  The desirability to move INTO the city thru renting IN the city
8.  The ability to sell one's house in the city
9.  The desire to stay in the city and continue to live there?
10. The number of vacant residential units in the city
11. The number of vacant houses
12. The number of abandoned houses
13. The number of tax foreclosures
14. The quality of life in the neighborhoods
15. The crime rate
16. The essential city-provided services to the residents IN the neighborhoods


Answers one by one?

A 1.25% decrease can hardly be described as "tanking" and don't forget that last year sales tax revenues were higher than originally projected.  So despite the overall sluggish national economy, Schenectady continues to chug along, making progress and continuing down the path of Renaissance.

WORKING TOGETHER WORKS !!!!!

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

A 1.25% decrease can hardly be described as "tanking" and don't forget that last year sales tax revenues were higher than originally projected.  So despite the overall sluggish national economy, Schenectady continues to chug along, making progress and continuing down the path of Renaissance.

WORKING TOGETHER WORKS !!!!!

First off, manipulating numbers to publicly come out with a lower projection to then make it appear that things are better than they really are is quite underhanded.   Just like the underhandedness of your dems by making the people think that downtown is getting better when the homeowners are not told, in plain language, that they are paying all the property taxes for those millionaires and politically connected.  Of course, since you are NOT a property taxpayer, and since you do not even know what is on a tax bill, you don't know that the tax bills FAIL to divulge to the homeowners how much they are paying for downtown's property taxes, in fact, homeowners aren't even given the remotest clue that there tax bill includes all the property and school taxes for downtown.

It works?????    Tell us how it's working for the home values.  

It works???    Care to tell us how it works for the tax BILLS?????

It works?????    Care to tell us how it works for the saleability of homes in the city?????

It works?   How does it work for the desirability to buy a house IN the city????    You don't even need to answer that one because the FACTS, the EVIDENCE of your refusal to do so proves that despite all your outward cheering, inside  you are honest with yourself in knowing that a move INTO the city is the last thing anyone would want to do, inside you are honest with yourself that the taxes are WAY TOO HIGH, inside you are honest with yourself that buying, even renting IN the city would be the worst possible move anyone could ever do.  

It works?????    Tell us how many of those new downtown apartments are rented????  

It works?????    How come the taxpayers are spending even more money on downtown when there are tons of empty downtown buildings?  

It works????    Tell us why that bookstore based in Vermont is choosing to expand into Saratoga and NOT Schenectady??????

Answers????    Evidence????

By the way, DV, do you STILL stand by your statement, made several times that the county taxes are lower than 50 years ago?????    

Can you tell us how did you arrive making that statement??????  

Since you made that statement, you obviously have the facts, the evidence to prove it, right?????    

So tell us what they were 50 years ago and what it is now????????.  

Well, since you make that claim, you CAN provide the numbers, right????     Well??????

Quoted from senders

Eat a burrito take a crap and whammmmooooo.....county septic jobs.....

Buy your burritos at Hot Harry's on Union st who pays full taxes on the $500,000. property.

The only reason that Schenectady isnt listed in this article is because they fraudulently inflated the Assessment of the City to steer around the Constitutional Tax Limit.  

NY mayors leery of statewide fiscal control board
Published: Tuesday, 7 Aug 2012 | 10:44 AM ET Text Size    Twitter  
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ALBANY, N.Y. - An unprecedented proposal to create a powerful statewide control board in New York to steer several cities, counties and school districts away from bankruptcy is getting a chilly response from mayors.

The mayors of Syracuse, Albany, Rochester and Yonkers said Monday that local leaders need to be part of any solution to the fiscal problems facing municipalities. The mayors say even a recovery from the recession won't change the basic problems they're confronting: diminishing tax revenues in part from declining populations, and rising costs including public worker payrolls, benefits and pension costs.

The mayors were reacting Monday to a New York Post story that said Gov. Andrew Cuomo and Comptroller Thomas DiNapoli were discussing a control board.

Cuomo and DiNapoli were discussing several options but were "keenly aware that one size does not fit all when it comes to fiscal stress," DiNapoli spokeswoman Jennifer Freeman said.

"We have not had discussions with the governor's office about fiscal stress legislative proposals," she said.

Cuomo wouldn't comment.

Control boards have been used since the 1970s to cut spending and make other difficult decisions in New York City, Buffalo, Troy, Yonkers and Nassau County. The appointed boards are strongly opposed by powerful public workers unions because the boards have forced cuts in workforces and their benefits among other politically difficult decisions.

DiNapoli said in a report last week that communities could face "devastating" fiscal conditions in coming years as some municipalities in other states already have.

The Post said Cuomo had drafted a version of legislation for a statewide control board with extensive powers to cut costs, even union contracts.

Mayors Stephanie Miner of Syracuse, Mike Spano of Yonkers, Thomas Richards of Rochester and Gerald Jennings of Albany said they believe decisions about their cities should be made in concert with local officials.

"We, as mayors, are dealing with our new realities," they stated Monday. "We are committed to working with the governor and comptroller to design a solution that will serve the interest of the state and its municipal governments."

But the concern goes beyond the four cities.

Last week, DiNapoli reported nearly 300 local governments had deficits in 2010 or 2011 and more than 100 didn't have enough cash to pay their current bills. His analysis of 4,000 local governments and school districts found many school districts also are on the brink.

A $400 million decline in local government and school revenues during the recession includes a nearly 6 percent drop in sales tax collections, a decline in property values in Dutchess, Nassau, Orange, Putnam, Rockland, Sullivan, Suffolk, Ulster and Westchester counties and a $50 million loss of state aid to municipalities.

DiNapoli also found Cortland County, Binghamton, Gloversville, Jamestown, Lackawanna, New York City, the Village of Herkimer and the Village of Lyons are "dangerously close" to their constitutional tax limit. He said more governments may soon approach their taxing limit.

DiNapoli also cited poor budgeting and record-keeping at more than a dozen local governments and urged multi-year planning.

But planning alone might not be enough, said Richard Brodsky, a former assemblyman from Westhester and now a senior fellow at the Wagner School at New York University.

"In cities like Yonkers, Syracuse or Rochester, which have done those plans, the choice is bankruptcy, bailout or control board," Brodsky said. "They simply cannot meet their community service obligations — police, fire, education, sanitation, parks — with the resources they have within the city. That's the conversation New York needs to have, now."

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