Consolidation is most likely to happen when it works for all parties involved. There are two main factors which I think would prevent Rotterdam, Niskayuna, Glenville, and Scotia from finding it desirable. First, there is the issue of call prioritization - if you get a major call (e.g., shots fired, domestics, EDPs, you are going to send whoever is available and routine calls will have to wait. The overmentioned townships are concerned that their acrs will get pulled into the City more often, at the expense of patrolling their own towns.
And, then based on the dysfunctional method of contyract negotiation - police unions salaries are based on ability to pay - so I would expect their taxes to go up as well.
Certainly, they can consolidate some services but I just don't see it happenening in the form of all Departments merging.
But, the point of the initial thread poses a valid question - if the Mayor is not going to appoint one of the three candidates off the existing list because they don't live in the City, how does that issue go away by appointing the Commissioner or the Sheriff, neither one of whom lives in the City.
And, the question not asked in this thread - what's in it for Bob Hamilton?
Consolidation is most likely to happen when it works for all parties involved. There are two main factors which I think would prevent Rotterdam, Niskayuna, Glenville, and Scotia from finding it desirable. First, there is the issue of call prioritization - if you get a major call (e.g., shots fired, domestics, EDPs, you are going to send whoever is available and routine calls will have to wait. The overmentioned townships are concerned that their acrs will get pulled into the City more often, at the expense of patrolling their own towns.
And, then based on the dysfunctional method of contyract negotiation - police unions salaries are based on ability to pay - so I would expect their taxes to go up as well.
Certainly, they can consolidate some services but I just don't see it happenening in the form of all Departments merging.
But, the point of the initial thread poses a valid question - if the Mayor is not going to appoint one of the three candidates off the existing list because they don't live in the City, how does that issue go away by appointing the Commissioner or the Sheriff, neither one of whom lives in the City. And, the question not asked in this thread - what's in it for Bob Hamilton?
Why would a retired SPD PBA President, who adamantly opposed consolidation and most certainly would have oppsed Harry Buffardi running SPD, be lobbying for the PBA to get behind it now?
As for the subject of the thread -- ignoring that the pathological liar known as the "Cowardly Cuckoo Who Can't Decide Whether He Is a She or She is a He" is making unfounded accusations ( i.e. that the mayor violated the law -- which the mayor has not) and can go rot in hell for all I care ---I think consolidating the police agencies in the county would be a good thing -- and if anyone is qualified to serve as the chief law enforcement agent it would Dominic Dagostino -- who is a great man and a great sheriff.
First the grown man cuckoo bird who has not yet flown from the nest---no wonder he doesn't know the joys and love of having a wife. Sometimes I post, sometimes my wife posts.
As for the subject of the thread, the mayor is required BY LAW to appoint a chief from the top three acceptors on the civil service list. Mayor Darth Vader ABSOLUTELY CANNOT appoint Dagostino (REGARDLESS of what any of us might feel about whether he would be appropriate for such a job).
As for the possibility of any type of consolidation, that can ONLY be done with the APPROVAL of ALL the TAXPAYERS in ALL municipalities and THAT is virtually guaranteed NOT to happen. NO ONE in the towns wants their taxes increased to subsidize the costs of policing the city.
If there was consolidation, the people in the towns periodically would be left without any police protection whatsoever. Of course, DV, you don't remember how your dems left the city totally and completely without any police presence in the neighborhoods on the night of the shooting in downtown in front of Bombers---ALL city police were downtown. And for that same reason, people in the towns would NOT accept consolidation---first it would hike our taxes (something you do NOT know anything about since you are NOT a taxpayer) and paying higher taxes to potentially be left without any police protection whatsoever when they all go into the city, that is unacceptable.
Regardless of whether anyone on these boards is in favor of or opposes such a merger, the FACT is it CANNOT EASILY happen. Mayor Darth Vader simply CANNOT make the decision and it will be a done deal. ALL municipalities will have to be involved, and it would be years away anyway. ALL the TAXPAYERS of the municipalities would have a say in whether the "head" of such a merged dept would be a political patronage job or civil service job and a test would be needed.
Because any such consolidation/merger is NOT going to happen in the foreseeable future, Darth Vader CANNOT say that he will appoint Dagostino.
IF there ever was such a merger, it would NOT be up to Mayor Darth Vader of the CITY of Schenectady to make the decision for all people of all municipalities.
So, how is the cuckoo bird going to explain that the mayor will not be violating the law??????
Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent. Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
Maybe there are not enough donuts for you and your fellow nayboobs, I never particularly care for donuts and except for one homemade paczki before Lent -- I never eat donuts.
As for the subject of the thread -- ignoring that the pathological liar known as the "Cowardly Cuckoo Who Can't Decide Whether He Is a She or She is a He" is making unfounded accusations ( i.e. that the mayor violated the law -- which the mayor has not) and can go rot in hell for all I care ---I think consolidating the police agencies in the county would be a good thing -- and if anyone is qualified to serve as the chief law enforcement agent it would Dominic Dagostino -- who is a great man and a great sheriff.
Stop lying about what you eat Ron. We know what you eat.
Why would a retired SPD PBA President, who adamantly opposed consolidation and most certainly would have oppsed Harry Buffardi running SPD, be lobbying for the PBA to get behind it now?
SHOW ME THE $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ TRAIL AND POWER......
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As for the subject of the thread, the mayor is required BY LAW to appoint a chief from the top three acceptors on the civil service list. Mayor Darth Vader ABSOLUTELY CANNOT appoint Dagostino (REGARDLESS of what any of us might feel about whether he would be appropriate for such a job).
Not when the feds are supplying the $$$$ and law is embedded in Homeland security patriot act....
this is way bigger than Schenectady county.....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Why would a retired SPD PBA President, who adamantly opposed consolidation and most certainly would have oppsed Harry Buffardi running SPD, be lobbying for the PBA to get behind it now?
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And, the question not asked in this thread - what's in it for Bob Hamilton?
Wow, maybe I was wrong about you all along. I may be doing a mea culpa and offering you an apology if you keep talking like this. And I am not being a wiseass. I am dead serious.
"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
Why would a retired SPD PBA President, who adamantly opposed consolidation and most certainly would have oppsed Harry Buffardi running SPD, be lobbying for the PBA to get behind it now?
Ya think??? Everybody is already saying that they are waiting for Hami's name to surface!! The chief ain't resigning for 'noreason'.....sure there is more to it and it is and has been 'the plan'.....yes?
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
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"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
It is certainly TIME to consolidate the law enforcement agencies under the purview of perhaps the wonderful young Sheriff who is not only a Hometown Boy -- but is a nationally recognized law enforcement expert.. I would have NO problem including any of the fine Hamilton Brothers in this role either.. They are from one of the finest law enforcement families in the State, and Chief Hamilton is known far and wide as perhaps the best Chief of a small police force in America -- one that is not only dynamic but one that is one of the very few that is in fact - fully accredited.
If I had my druthers as to a Commissioner of County Law Enforcement Chief -- I would certainly nominate any of these great men in the absence of Former Chief Anthony Jasenski or Past-Sheriff Harry Buffardi. We are fortunate that we have such a talented pool of skilled First Responders to chose from. Other communities would give anything to have such great individuals to lead crime-fighting efforts. We would have a true "Dream-Team" with any or all of the above running this County's efforts to fight crime.
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