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visitor - You have no idea what you're talking about. People sell drugs for money. If you're out shooting people instead of selling drugs, you're not making money. This is basic economics. Yes, drug dealers are associated with gangs, which in turn use violence to protect their 'turf'...but drugs and the dealing of them doesn't create the violence you see on the street.


drug dealers are like knats....make the 'gangs' register....MAKE THEM CARRY PAPERS....

humans will ALWAYS find what they think they need....whether it be drugs/car/income/home/sex/food/water etc etc

there is a whole bunch of humans ADDICTED to legal drugs.....coffee/xanax/lortab/nicotine/alcohol etc etc.....they
have to 'show papers' to get them...

as for procreation.....STOP GIVING ANIMALS HORMONES and the humans wont ingest them and 11,12,13 year olds wont
be controlled by ARTIFICIAL HORMONES....

again....take the man off the land and ignorance follows.....

gangs are ignorant fools who without the food/water source wouldn't survive....

industrialization has created the 'gang system'


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Rusty you're terribly uninformed - ever heard of OPeration Impact - all the parties you name have been operating as a coaltion for some time.

RE: the SLA - everytime there is an incident at bar an attempt is made to file an SLA referral - if the incident does not occur at the bar or cannot be specifically attributed to the bar, then it's difficult to sanction the bar owner.

Foot patrols at 3am in the morning - that's good if you haven enough officers and manpower available on a Friday night in Schenectady
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the fiat system created prisons.....and the gangstas....some are just dressed better and smell better than the others...

urbane comes in many forms....

low riding pants
suit and ties

take your pick


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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And Rusty people don't talk to the polkice because of the threat of retaliation and a foolish subcultural value of not being a snitch.
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Glry - there is a problem in Mont Pleasant and hamiltoon Hill and parts of Central State Street and a pocket of the northside.  It's a heavy lift stabilizing those areas - a good part of it will require demolishing many of the vacant buildings - City is a ways from being where it needs to be.

I think the housing problem and high profile violent incidents and tax issues are the big three that have to be significantly reduced in order to make the City more attractive.  The temporary solution of the tax liens has expired and now it will indeed be a challenge to address the shortfall
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Cicero, I dont know if you really ARE an idiot, or just play one on this blog, but whichever it is, you do a great job.


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Ok, let's put less people in prison - that should make things safer.


making things safer
making value
making 'fair share'


what exactly is it that we are making?

and as opposed to what?

Russia? Venezuela? Mexico?
church? etc....

I'm all for the consequence of choice...good/bad or otherwise indefinable .....

but please expound....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Cicero - it's a waste of time to talk about legalizing drugs.  Fortunately, politicians have enough sense not to make heorin and cocaine legal for citizens.  there is a clear difference between hards drugs and alcohol.  That's not to say the govermental policy needs to adjust em of their methods re: policy.  But, it's an irresponsible to make those two drugs as accessible as a bottle of beer.


Then Amsterdam Holland must be a war zone.  Ahhh...No...It's not.

BTW...Alcohol is a chemical dependent drug, just like Heroin, there are physical withdraw symptoms.  It is addictive and dangerous.  Marijuana, crack, cocaine, is a mental dependency, no physical withdraw symptoms.  I won't even start with the prescription medications that form physical dependencies.  

The "drug war" is bullshit.  It has nothing to do with preventing some imaginary societal problems.  IT'S MONEY.


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"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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This is happening in every NE City- lol. Nothing to see here move on. The pockets of rot mentioned are exactly the same areas that voted for the current clueless Mayor.
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...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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In other business Monday, two residents came to the City Council meeting to complain about the shooting Saturday on Fifth Avenue. One resident said police should not have de- scribed the incident as happening near Joe’s Bar, where another shooting left one man dead in 2011.
    He said the shooting actually occurred several hundred feet down the road.
    Another resident said the shooting did occur outside Joe’s Bar, but took exception to the way police greeted witnesses.
    Police have described the witnesses as uncooperative, but resident Matthew Rich said he and others were sent away when they tried to describe what they saw.
    “When we approached them, they told us to shut up and go home,” he said. “Wouldn’t it be nice if the police wanted us?”
    Police were also criticized after a shooting in June on Hamilton Hill. Community activist Christopher Dixon said officers shouted at an unruly crowd and then refused to listen to him when he believed he saw the shooter in the crowd.
    In that incident, Porterfi eld said it was so difficult to get offi cers’ attention that she had to cross the police tape to get one of them to come over to her.
    After Monday’s complaint, Mayor Gary McCarthy took the microphone to send a message to police.
    “I expect police officers to be community leaders,” he said. “I expect them to deliver service that justifies their position.”
    He also urged Rich and others to schedule an interview with police to help them solve the shooting case.
    Council President Denise Brucker added her voice to that appeal.
    “Please make sure that you follow through, as a citizen,” she said. “I can understand being discouraged if you get a bad reception.”
    But, she said, they could also call her, the mayor or the public safety commissioner to make their report.
    Commissioner Wayne Bennett said police are investigating whether an officer inappropriately shouted at residents after the June shooting.
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Don't say it happened by Joe's Bar even if it happened by Joe's Bar? Give us a break. These DEM morons and their politically correct speech are a hoot. The City is going to hell in a hand basket and they cheer about birthday parties at a museum. Start addressing the DEM created $10 million City deficit and stop advertising the next festa or arts and farts night.
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Don't say it happened by Joe's Bar even if it happened by Joe's Bar? Give us a break. These DEM morons and their politically correct speech are a hoot. The City is going to hell in a hand basket and they cheer about birthday parties at a museum. Start addressing the DEM created $10 million City deficit and stop advertising the next festa or arts and farts night.


This is so incredibly stupid! McCarthy says police should be 'community leaders' at the scene of a crime? Let McCheesy be the one going to AM shootings and be civil....he can't even be kind to the general public at Council Meetings!!!

Set the example McCheesy and don't throw stones if your pocket is full of rocks.
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This is so incredibly stupid! McCarthy says police should be 'community leaders' at the scene of a crime? Let McCheesy be the one going to AM shootings and be civil....he can't even be kind to the general public at Council Meetings!!!Set the example McCheesy and don't throw stones if your pocket is full of rocks.


It's so idiotic it's hilarious. And according to the Gazetto McCheese is up at 3 AM working on City "issues". The public finally has awoken to these DEM frauds with no plans who are in public service only for the double dip. Or in Taxin Tonkos case triple dip.
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