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You have another problem Box.

The motivation for early railroad construction was very similar to that of all of the other transport initiative - namely to link the Atlantic with the interior. This time the early promotions were undertaken by those cities who had lost out in the "canal race". The first modern railway to be built in North American (following swiftly on its first innovation in England) was the Baltimore and Ohio, started in 1828 by a group of Baltimore businessmen concerned that the opening of the Erie canal threatened them and their city with a major long-term loss of trade and anxious to find their own route across the mountains. Similarly, Boston’s response to the Erie was the promotion of the Boston and Worcester Railroad (constructed 1830-34). Like the Baltimore venture, this was promoted by private capital but received considerable assistance from the State. Down in South Carolina, Charleston rose to the challenge in much the same way, with the promotion of the Charleston and Hamburg line (completed in 1833 and then the longest single route in the world), and even New York and Pennsylvania became involved in promotions, notwithstanding the success of their canal routes. By 1840 the north east of America had constructed nearly 3,000 miles of line. Notwithstanding its later start, this was nearly twice the mileage then operating in Europe. More than a third of that mileage was located in New York state and Pennsylvania, which already had strong canal facilities - they had seen the benefits of good transportation routes and were anxious to cement them. It is also notable that this rapid growth of the railway system had not been predicated on the simple import of British technology. From an early date it had been realised that "heavy" British locomotives and rolling stock were unsuitable to the lightly constructed and comparatively poorly engineered American track systems and the emergent American engineering industry had rapidly developed their own characteristic wood-burning engines and more flexible coaches/trucks. ox.  
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The business folks PAID for the roads and teachers thru their tax dollars via unions!!! So the business folks got nothing for FREE!!! WTH is obama talking about??? OMG!

Roads...paid for by the taxpayers
Teachers....paid for by the taxpayers
Water....paid for by the taxpayers
Sidewalks....paid for by the taxpayers
Sewers..........paid for by the taxpayers

etc...........and the business folks are 'taxpayers' also!!
So if it weren't for the businesses that create the jobs, to employ the folks who can 'pay taxes'.......there would be SQUAT!!!

Looks like Barak 'insane' Obama didn't take economics 101....


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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The business folks PAID for the roads and teachers thru their tax dollars via unions!!! So the business folks got nothing for FREE!!! WTH is obama talking about??? OMG!

Roads...paid for by the taxpayers
Teachers....paid for by the taxpayers
Water....paid for by the taxpayers
Sidewalks....paid for by the taxpayers
Sewers..........paid for by the taxpayers

etc...........and the business folks are 'taxpayers' also!!
So if it weren't for the businesses that create the jobs, to employ the folks who can 'pay taxes'.......there would be SQUAT!!!

Looks like Barak 'insane' Obama didn't take economics 101....


bumbler is dodging the subject.  Did he do it on his own?  Did he make his business ALL BY HIMSELF?
Of course not.  We all rely on each other for the good of the whole community.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Keep talking BoxOfCrackerJacks - even Obama is backtracking on his statements  and every time you follow up post her you sound stupider and stupider.
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Keep talking BoxOfCrackerJacks - even Obama is backtracking on his statements  and every time you follow up post her you sound stupider and stupider.


Rusty... I'm sure in your mind, I sound... um... "stupider and stupider"!  

So now you know how I feel reading your posts!
        


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Obama's point all along on this issue is that 'others' helped this man  build his business.  To be specific, the
Taxpayers of his community set up the infrastructure that let this mam build his business.

Looking at the pic I can see a very nice road leading to Ray's business.  Did Ray build it? Of course not.
Nor did Ray supply the water electricity sewer and internet connection necessary for Ray's lumber yard.
If Ray has any employees working for him... did Ray educate those employees???

With out TAXPAYER help... Ray has built his business and hopefully it's a successful one.  Now it's time for Ray
top give back to the community that helped Ray succeed.  PAY YOUR TAXES RAY! ... And smile when you do it
cause you didn't build that business all by yourself!


OMG.....he pays taxes too...but he sweat to put up the business...he took risk to build it....his neighbors were
cheerleaders.....

if taxpayers always are the crux of the business then THAT is the problem with government.....

government sets up the system for who CHOOSE to build a business.....they owe you or I NOTHING.....

income tax is bad....consumer tax is good....that's TRUE VOTING.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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The truth of the matter is.............the businessman/women PAID TAXES for all of the 'somebody elses' out there!!
The truth is..............the business folks pay DOUBLE!!

Now, those that are receiving grants/loans and/or are paying little to no taxes.....such as what the METROPLEX/GILLEN gives out....then that statement is correct.
Those businesses did it with the forced taxpayer's money since they could not make it on their own merit!


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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