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Parents defend putting children to work on farms
By JIM SUHR, Associated Press

FULTS, ILL. — As he watched his 10-year-old son ease a tractor across a soybean field, Dennis Mosbacher acknowledged the risks of farming.

But Mosbacher said the U.S. Labor Department was misguided in its attempts to protect children from farm accidents and he's relieved the agency dropped its plans this spring and has promised not to take up the matter again.

"You can't make a rule to stop every accident," Mosbacher said after his son Jacob hopped off the 40-year-old, 60-horsepower tractor at their farm near the tiny southern Illinois town of Fults. "There's always a risk in life, no matter what you do."...........................>>>>....................>>>>........................http://www.wral.com/business/story/11297804/
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In the words of Newt Gingrich.

Newt Gingrich made an astounding proposal last weekend in which he expressed the belief that America is ignoring an untapped labor resource: Children.

Calling child labor laws "truly stupid" on Friday at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government,...





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Kids shouldn't have to work until 27 years old, only after they are legally obligated to purchase health insurance. I say condition people to be dependant as long as possible.  Independence, self reliance, and critical thinking must be stopped at all costs.


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WHY SHOULD ONE HAVE TO DEFEND A KID WORKING ON THE FARM?????

oh, like college produces some gems...hahahahahahahaha....

a bunch of heads in a room making some system that keeps folks from learning about their self sovereignty and self care.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Quoted from Libertarian4life
In the words of Newt Gingrich.

Newt Gingrich made an astounding proposal last weekend in which he expressed the belief that America is ignoring an untapped labor resource: Children.

Calling child labor laws "truly stupid" on Friday at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government,...


Gingrich is a complete buffoon.
If people can't find jobs already, how does he think they'll fare against a workforce that's willing to work 14 hours, for $8 and a bag of Cheetos?
Besides, the republican wet dream of ultra cheap labor has already been realized in countries like China, The Philippines, and a host of other countries where you wouldn't want to raise your kids.

I find your pictures to be appalling for the fact that depict child labor as a hilarious impossibility, while millions of kids literally slave to make the cheap junk you buy at Walmart.
And they don't get those fancy fangled hard hats either.

Wanna know where all the American manufacturing jobs have gone?
Take a look.




I have no problem with kids working in a family business however, and many couldn't stay afloat without the kids help, but if the kids get hurt doing something they know is inherently dangerous, then the parents should have to answer for it.


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Working on a farm is a great experience for young people.  I did it for a number of years when I was a teenager and in college.


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Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

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Working on a farm is a great experience for young people.  I did it for a number of years when I was a teenager and in college.


goat farm????
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goat farm????


Well the sheep have an order of protection against him.
He's not allowed within 500 feet, nor is he to be in possession of any literature with pictures depicting sheep, or videos depicting a performance by sheep.


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I have no problem with kids working in a family business however, and many couldn't stay afloat without the kids help, but if the kids get hurt doing something they know is inherently dangerous, then the parents should have to answer for it.


Which is more inherently dangerous?

This




Or this







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FACTS:

• An estimated 300 children die each year in farming accidents
• Farm children are twice as likely to die from an accident than their urban counterparts
• An estimated 30,000 children under 20 years of age are injured each year in farming accidents
• If children who visit or work on non-family farms are added the total is estimated to be close to
100,000 injuries
• Nearly 950 farm children suffer some type of permanent disability because of farm accidents an-
nually
• Approximately 90% of the fatalities and injuries occur to male children
• Children under the age of 16 comprise 20% of all farm fatalities


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Working on a farm is a great experience for young people.  I did it for a number of years when I was a teenager and in college.


Stop it.

We are trying to provide positive examples of children having had worked on a farm.

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Don't let children play on the playground or go swimming.  Wait, that sounded optional...BAN PLAYGROUNDS AND SWIMMING POOLS, CLOSE ALL PUBLIC SWIMMING POOLS.





Playground Injuries: Fact Sheet
Overview
Each year in the United States, emergency departments treat more than 200,000 children ages 14 and younger for playground-related injuries (Tinsworth 2001).

Occurrence and Consequences
About 45% of playground-related injuries are severe–fractures, internal injuries, concussions, dislocations, and amputations (Tinsworth 2001).
About 75% of nonfatal injuries related to playground equipment occur on public playgrounds (Tinsworth 2001). Most occur at schools and daycare centers (Phelan 2001).
Between 1990 and 2000, 147 children ages 14 and younger died from playground-related injuries. Of them, 82 (56%) died from strangulation and 31 (20%) died from falls to the playground surface. Most of these deaths (70%) occurred on home playgrounds (Tinsworth 2001).

Unintentional Drowning: Get the Facts
From 2005-2009, there were an average of 3,533 fatal unintentional drownings (non-boating related) annually in the United States — about ten deaths per day. An additional 347 people died each year from drowning in boating-related incidents.2

About one in five people who die from drowning are children 14 and younger.2 For every child who dies from drowning, another five receive emergency department care for nonfatal submersion injuries.1

More than 50% of drowning victims treated in emergency departments (EDs) require hospitalization or transfer for further care (compared with a hospitalization rate of about 6% for all unintentional injuries).1,2  These nonfatal drowning injuries can cause severe brain damage that may result in long-term disabilities such as memory problems, learning disabilities, and permanent loss of basic functioning (e.g., permanent vegetative state).3,4


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Which is more inherently dangerous?

This




Or this







More dangerous? The girl on top, because she'll likely never even learn how to read, and will be doing that same thing, probably for the rest of her life, which probably won't be much longer than 40 years.

The pigs on the bottom, will receive an education on my dime, and be generally a drain on the system until they die, probably of old age due superior health care that is not available in 3rd world slave states.

Which kid would I rather be?
Ummm, lets see. 24 hour food, video games, Disney World, education, my own car...

OR

Some rice, and being chained to a loom 14 hours a day until I'm no longer useful, and am thrown out to die?

Ummmm, I'd rather be the entitled pigs. Yeah definitely the pigs.

But just not to get the issue confused, I had a full time job at 14, working under my brother's name, and still went to college, so I'm no stranger to hard work, and long hours. I had a paper route with 112 papers 7 days a week when I was 12.



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Future Air Force drone pilots.


Future governor of New Jersey


Future porno producers.


Future corpse.


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Quoted from Libertarian4life
Stop it.

We are trying to provide positive examples of children having had worked on a farm.



Grow up and get over it!  I have a right to post my opinion.  So I would just like to see you try to stop me.

Anyway,  it was most definitely a positive experience working on a farm as a child.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
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