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Box A Rox
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WASHINGTON -- House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) contradicted
House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) on Sunday, saying that Congress has found no evidence
that President Barack Obama or anyone at the White House had participated in a cover-up
involving the Fast and Furious scandal.


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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/24/darrell-issa-john-boehner-fast-and-furious_n_1622141.html



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Rachel Madcow is pretty funny... if 95% of people are not watching Fox news, which is the most watched news on cable, what percentage are watching her, or MSNBC, which is just about the LEAST watched news on cable?

But that doesn't really matter. Do I think Fast and Furious is a huge cover-up? NO
BUT, invoking executive privilege by the most "transparent" (hehe) administration in US history does make you wonder, WHY? The info withheld must be pretty embarassing...more so than any gain that could be achieved by allowing the released documents to prove that F&F was started by the Bush admin.
The administration KNEW that this would give the pubs a bone, it must have been worth it to hide what was in the Docs.


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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Box A Rox
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Rachel Madcow is pretty funny... if 95% of people are not watching Fox news, which is the most watched news on cable, what percentage are watching her, or MSNBC, which is just about the LEAST watched news on cable?

But that doesn't really matter. Do I think Fast and Furious is a huge cover-up? NO
BUT, invoking executive privilege by the most "transparent" (hehe) administration in US history does make you wonder, WHY? The info withheld must be pretty embarassing...more so than any gain that could be achieved by allowing the released documents to prove that F&F was started by the Bush admin.
The administration KNEW that this would give the pubs a bone, it must have been worth it to hide what was in the Docs.


Fox watchers love to quote... "the most watched news on cable"... But they ignore the data that shows
Fox viewers to be the least informed... even less informed than Americans who watch NO NEWS on television.

Fox is a big fish in a small pond.  All of the big three... ABC, CBS & NBC beat Fox every night.  
Viewership does not make a network factual.  


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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55tbird
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Quoted from Box A Rox


Fox watchers love to quote... "the most watched news on cable"... But they ignore the data that shows
Fox viewers to be the least informed... even less informed than Americans who watch NO NEWS on television.

Fox is a big fish in a small pond.  All of the big three... ABC, CBS & NBC beat Fox every night.  
Viewership does not make a network factual.  


Geez, a little defensive for a Tuesday afternoon... I don't watch FoxNews, I just don't have the time.
I also said nothing about whether ratings make the news any more "truthful". What I was commenting on was Rachels insistence that Fox News watchers were such a small percentage while knowing full well she would love to have that "small percentage" watching her..And WHY the administration would throw the pubs a bone with the executive privilege action when there was nothing to hide??
If you were honest and a republican administration played the same card, you'd have the SAME question


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I agree 55tbird, if the administration has nothing to hide then release the data that the Congressional committee wants and be done with it.
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If, as House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) said on Sunday that Congress has found
no evidence that President Barack Obama or anyone at the White House had participated in a cover-up
involving Fast and Furious, then the reason for keeping the data is probably other than political.

A non-event!


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Mitt Romney... campaigning for the Homophobe Vote




The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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More Republican Hypocrisy...

What prominent  Republicans think if Chief Justice John Roberts... (until today)

Rep. John Boehner (R-OH):
“Supreme Court Justices John Roberts and Samuel Alito, President Bush’s two successful appointments
to the high court, are who we hoped and thought they were — Justices committed to a fair and just
interpretation of the Constitution.”

Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY):
“Judge Roberts because his position in a particular case did not mirror a Senator’s personal policy preferences,
nor when it comes to a fair process should we require.”
Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK):
“I’m confident that Chief Justice John Roberts will help restore the Constitutional balance of power
between the branches of government. Judge Roberts, I believe, will not attempt to write policy from
the bench and will leave legislating to the Congress. …Judge Roberts proved himself during his confirmation
hearing to be extraordinarily intelligent, highly-qualified and totally committed to applying the law justly.”

Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC):
“We need a Justice, not a super legislator — a Justice who will rightly interpret our laws, not create laws.”

Sen. John Thune (R-SD):
“As we pay tribute to the legacy of former Chief Justice Rehnquist, we see many of the qualities that
marked his tenure of excellence mirrored in Judge Roberts. …Judge Roberts brings with him a brilliant
legal mind and a profound respect for the Constitution and the Court.”

Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL):
“John Roberts’s confirmation was a defeat for the politicization of the courts and the notion that a judge
should be an advocate for this or that view.”

Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX):
“An exceptional judge, brilliant legal mind, and a man of outstanding character who understands his
profound duty to follow the law.”

Sen. Roy Blunt (R-MO):
“He has proven himself as a judge who applies the law impartially with an eye toward the strict
interpretation of the Constitution, rather than legislating from the bench.”

Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT):
“If I have ever seen anybody who deserves being on the Court more than John Roberts, I have to think
pretty hard. John Roberts is a fine man.”

Frmr. Sen. George Allen (R-VA):
“I found Judge Roberts to be a well-grounded individual whom I believe understands that the proper
role of a judge is to apply the law and not invent it. I am confident he will be an outstanding member
of the Supreme Court who will be a responsible and influential voice for years to come.”

Frmr Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA):
“I can think of no one more qualified and worthy to fulfill the role of Chief Justice of the Supreme
Court than Judge Roberts.”

Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA):
“I believe that at his hearing last week, Judge Roberts demonstrated that he will be fair and open-minded,
and will approach cases without bias and without a personal agenda. This is the kind of judge that
everyone – both liberals and conservatives alike – wants on the bench.”

Today... Not so much!    


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Tommy
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"Fast and Furious" is not a new concept, and it was going on long before Obama, or even Reagan was in office, and only very recently was it given that name

Selling guns, or anything else for that matter, for the purpose of tracking it, is a tactic that has been used for well over 100 years.
What do you think a DHS anti-terrorism sting is?

The conservatards just needed a talking point to aim their ill thought outrage at.





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Quoted from Box A Rox
If, as House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) said on Sunday that Congress has found
no evidence that President Barack Obama or anyone at the White House had participated in a cover-up
involving Fast and Furious, then the reason for keeping the data is probably other than political.

A non-event!


Its an event because Obama made it one by using executive privilege...if its for national security say it, if its another legitmate use, then say it.....not doing so just makes it look like he is hiding something.
The most transparent administration in US History? what a f'ing joke...
Here's the new boss, same as the old boss.


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Holder and the administration already said that they knew nothing about Fast and Furious and 10 months later they had to retract that letter and admit that they knew, If they were lying then are they still lying now. If there is nothing to hide then turn over the documents and eliminate the suspicion of a cover up.
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