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Box A Rox
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Cicero seems to have a chip on his shoulder... His hate of anything concerned the US government is intense,
and IMO, irrational.
  
I take personal responsibility for myself... but I also consider myself part of a community, a state and a country.
Cic portrays his life as if he were an island all  of his own, unconnected in any way with the rest of the world.

He is unconcerned about a possible threat to innocent children right here in his own community, yet he goes to
extreme to promote protecting admitted and known terrorists in Yemen.  

A strange sense of values.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Cicero seems to have a chip on his shoulder... His hate of anything concerned the US government is intense,
and IMO, irrational.
  
I take personal responsibility for myself... but I also consider myself part of a community, a state and a country.
Cic portrays his life as if he were an island all  of his own, unconnected in any way with the rest of the world.

He is unconcerned about a possible threat to innocent children right here in his own community, yet he goes to
extreme to promote protecting admitted and known terrorists in Yemen.  

A strange sense of values.  




...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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He is unconcerned about a possible threat to innocent children right here in his own community, yet he goes to extreme to promote protecting admitted and known terrorists in Yemen.  

A strange sense of values.  


When you say my values, do you mean my belief that locking children in schools like a jail, and predator droning a U.S. citizen is an unnecessary over reaction to an improbable threat?

Whatever makes you feel more secure.  Jailing and killing, that is what Americans yearn for from their government.


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A man with a knife....what kind of knife?
Steak knife, switch blade, paring knife.........was the female telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth? How did she get away from this guy with a 'knife'?

BUT....there are 'proven shooters' running lose in schenectady, and those schools are not in lock down.

I mean come on here folks!!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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First of all, let's clarify that this was "....lockout, meaning no one is allowed into the building", not a "lockdown" as Mr. Cicero directed this thread to be.
Secondly, if they had not done a lockout, and if the nut case made it into the school, and even if no one was hurt and if he ran out the back, you would all be screaming bloody murder that the cops didn't lockout or lockdown the school. Why not just be thankful that no one was hurt instead of turning the whole thing into a gestapo over-reaction activity!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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The schools should have never started the practice or the rhetoric.....

1. schools are locked
2. can't even get to your child without practically giving blood
3. false sense of security in a young childs mind, children should ALWAYS be aware that world DOES NOT revolve around them, and no one will be there to take care of them.
4. teachers being admonished for FB use with students to prevent 'hookups', yet we LOCK THE KIDS IN WITH SAID TEACHERS/ADMIN ETC. ??????
5. 'the state' is mommy/daddy? really?

MAYBE IF THE JUSTICE SYSTEM HAD BETTER BITE FOR PROVEN CONSEQUENCES

sad beginning of the future, but not unexpected......aaaahhhhh....the freedom of peace/love/no war.......well, no sugary drinks or popcorn, but PLEASE pass that bong


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Secondly, if they had not done a lockout, and if the nut case made it into the school, and even if no one was hurt and if he ran out the back, you would all be screaming bloody murder that the cops didn't lockout or lockdown the school. Why not just be thankful that no one was hurt instead of turning the whole thing into a gestapo over-reaction activity!


I don't know the difference in lockdown and lockout.  I guess the question is, would I have been able to enter the building or could a student voluntarily leave the building?  

Secondly, they locked out schools, plural.  Thirdly, I'm not going to be thankful that nobody was hurt since nobody except for the women involved in the domestic dispute was in harms way. Fourth, not only were select public schools locked out, there was a state police helicopter involved.  And this, all in response to allegations of a knife pulled during a domestic dispute.

Go hangout a few weekends this summer in the Hamilton Hill area.  Tell me how many 'lockouts' and police helicopters respond to the gun shots that are heard on a regular basis. What happened in Glenville was overreaction in suburbia to justify the police budget and school taxes.   The 'we were protecting the kids' is always a sure winner.


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sad....

we lock up criminals

we lock up kids

I'm not sure what this does to the psyche of a generation raised under the dark cloud of 9/11

outcome can be bad.......

the pendulum WILL swing......DUCK!!!!!!!


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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When you say my values, do you mean my belief that locking children in schools like a jail, and predator droning a U.S. citizen is an unnecessary over reaction to an improbable threat?

Whatever makes you feel more secure.  Jailing and killing, that is what Americans yearn for from their government.


Cic seems to look at education as "jail"... it explains a lot about his agenda.  For Cic 'education'  is a punishment
and should be abolished.
(Funny to watch every post by Cic degenerate into a Predator Drone tirade!)  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Cic seems to look at education as "jail"... it explains a lot about his agenda.  For Cic 'education'  is a punishment
and should be abolished.
(Funny to watch every post by Cic degenerate into a Predator Drone tirade!)  


Box, it isn't 'education' it is schooling.  Big difference.  



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Box, it isn't 'education' it is schooling.  Big difference.  


Did you go to private school Cic?  Did you get your "education" in the public school system???
Did you have this "school = jail" attitude when you were a student???

It would explain a lot!  


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Did you go to private school Cic?  Did you get your "education" in the public school system???


No, my 'education' began AFTER I was done with my public schooling.  Now I have to contemplate sending my kids into the public schools to be taught by the same stoners and jocks I went to school with that are now teachers(for the summers off of course - their words not mine).  Yeah, the best and the brightest.


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Damned if we do
Damned if we don't
Becuase either way, it doesn't fit into the mold of the narrow minded mentality
The world has changed, and not necessarily for the better.
With change comes more change and ways to address change
Forget HH, travel outside of North America and live there for awhile and see if it's better than what you have.....you'll be back


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Damned if we do
Damned if we don't
Becuase either way, it doesn't fit into the mold of the narrow minded mentality


The knife wielding man hasn't been apprehended yet, so there is still a crazed knife wielding man on the loose.  The most recent report says the man may be in Schenectady.  Please explain WHY the school children in Scotia Glenville are no longer in danger and the school is no loner in 'lockout', and WHY Schenectady City Schools are not in 'lockout'?  At what point did the police(that used a state police helicopter to track this man) decide this knife wielding man is no longer a threat to the school children?  


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First of all, let's clarify that this was "....lockout, meaning no one is allowed into the building", not a "lockdown" as Mr. Cicero directed this thread to be.


I didn't title the thread, Rampage did.  So I didn't direct the thread.


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