How dare you consider scientists to be the Gods of Creation V2.0
The other creationists will pray for their God to smite you.
The only persons in trouble in this thread is you and Box of Cocks. You wanted me to show you 'Creationism without God' and now that I have, your entire argument has been destroyed.
If we can create life, then the existance of 'God' has to be considered a very real and plauseable possibilty.
"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'
Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'
The only persons in trouble in this thread is you and Box of Cocks. You wanted me to show you 'Creationism without God' and now that I have, your entire argument has been destroyed. If we can create life, then the existence of 'God' has to be considered a very real and plausible possible .
Your post: "If we can create life, then the existence of 'God' has to be considered a very real and plausible possible." I'm afraid that I don't follow your view on this... Of course we can "create life"... See below for possibility of how life began on this planet: (The Evolutionist View) In early pre-Cambrian times, the Earth was hot and volcanic, lashed by violent electrical storms, and the atmosphere was rich in carbon dioxide, sulphur compounds and ozone. Conditions were ideal for chemical reactions to occur. Complex compounds began to form. Then inorganic molecules combined into even more complex organic compounds, gradually forming amino acids and proteins, the building blocks of life. Over millions of years, some of these compounds formed into simple cells, some of which had the capability to replicate themselves under certain conditions.
If a combination of chemicals was the origin of life on earth as described above, and your example of man creating life from chemicals... both of these examples occur WITHOUT THE HELP OF ANY GOD. Yet you seem to think it proves that a god exists or even gives evidence to a god.
Doesn't it prove that life can be created and exist WITH OUT A GOD??
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The only persons in trouble in this thread is you and Box of Cocks. You wanted me to show you 'Creationism without God' and now that I have, your entire argument has been destroyed.
If we can create life, then the existance of 'God' has to be considered a very real and plauseable possibilty.
In case you haven't been paying attention, I never said God doesn't or hasn't existed.
I even went as far as submitting the idea that there are, and always have been, an infinite number of Gods and realities coexisting.
I just don't believe, even for one moment, that this current reality that this debate is taking part in, was created less than 10,000 years ago.
I also don't believe religion based creation belongs in schools.
I base that on the people having a right to not take part in religion.
Private schools can teach whatever, but mandatory, government funded schools, have no right to inflict the dumbness of religious creationism less than 10,000 years ago, on anyone.
I don't dispute that science can create life at all. I will further add that it surely can create new forms of life.
I do still believe that the laws of physics still apply to our current reality. Therefore energy/mass can never be created or destroyed.
Anything that can scientifically be described as living contains mass/energy.
These new synthetic cells are not spontaneous creation.
They are energy/mass manipulation. That is entirely different from the claims of creation V1.0 whereby they claim all reality was created from nothing by God.
Create something from nothing and you can call yourself God.
Create a synthetic life form from existing materials, and you are at best, an android builder.
I believe the creationist theory claims that all existence was created from nothing. As science has shown, living things that never existed can be created. When science can create something from nothing, then they will actually be creating. Converting chemicals, heat, and other mass/energy particles into an organism isn't creation. It is merely a chemical or energy conversion.
I don't care about proving or disproving a GOD. I don't care if people believe in the literal translation of the bible. I DO care when others try to use US law to inflict their religious views on the rest of society. God or no God... Creationists can believe what ever they like... just don't try to force that view on the rest of us and especially DON'T FORCE US TO LEARN CREATIONISM AS IF IT WERE SCIENCE.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Not to mention that nothing says private citizens can't directly help out a vet. WTF do you need a gluttonous nanny to distribute the money for you?
YUP!! When GOV ALMIGHTY stands before the sheople and tells them that the government is going to take care of the 'victims' with taxpayer money, because they can distribute it better...the sheople eat it up!!! So when the sheople agree to the 'lie'...their taxes go up and they lose ALL control over where and to whom their contributions go. Not to mention....it no longer becomes a 'tax deduction'!!! Nitwits!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
DON'T FORCE US TO LEARN CREATIONISM AS IF IT WERE SCIENCE.
I don't think it was ever proposed as a required class. I believe it would be an elective - like Philosophy. Man, I thought you libs were "open minded". Guess not.
I don't think it was ever proposed as a required class. I believe it would be an elective - like Philosophy. Man, I thought you libs were "open minded". Guess not.
Churches teach religion for free already.
Do you really want the government teaching a government version of religion?
Do you really want the government teaching a government version of religion?
If government schools are going to force me to pay their tax, I don't see why my community cannot control the curriculum. People are acting as if prayer and religion observances were always forbidden in public schools. It wasn't until 1962 that the rabid secularist removed all religion from public schools, and forced their curriculum onto the children.
I can't stand the bullshit argument that there is a separation of church FROM state. That was NOT the original intent of the Constitution. For 173 years religion in school was acceptable. The progressive statist decided to re-interpret the Constitution.
The government actually WANTS to be GOD!!!! They want, and have almost succeeded at convincing the dumbed down part of society into thinking they can do it better!!!
......well.......have at it!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
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