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Schenectady to reduce property values

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May 21, 2012 in News Articles | Tags: Schenectady County

Schenectady to reduce property values

Assessments 4% above the market

Monday, May 21, 2012

By Kathleen Moore (Contact)
Gazette Reporter

SCHENECTADY — The city’s assessments are so out of whack that the city is reducing every property’s value in the tentative assessment roll.

The new city assessor has reported to the state that Schenectady’s properties are assessed 4 percent higher than market value. The state has agreed to give the city a 104 percent equalization rate.

That means, in essence, that every property is valued at 4 percent less than its current assessment. Under that calculation, a house assessed at $100,000 would sell for $96,000.

Those who believe their house is over-assessed by 4 percent do not need to grieve to get that reduction; the city automatically adjusted all properties.

Raising the equalization rate allows the city to adjust assessments without a costly — and time-consuming — reassessment. It also might put an end to the dozens of lawsuits from property owners who claim their assessments are too high. The city has paid thousands of dollars in tax refunds in response to those complaints.

Mayor Gary McCarthy said the rate change should solve the city’s assessment problem for now.

“This gives us interim relief,” he said. “What you don’t want to do is have your reassessment happen during a dynamic market.”

Councilman Vince Riggi, the only non-Democrat in city government, said he wants a full reassessment. But, he said, the city clearly can’t afford to do it yet. So he was hoping assessments could be adjusted internally.

“It’s certainly askew, our assessment roll. There’s no question about it,” Riggi said.

McCarthy is hoping to wait until the real estate market settles. It was booming when the city did its last reassessment.

“What we seem to see here is the market is stabilizing,” he said. “Houses that were sitting on the market are moving. I think Key to the City has played a role.”

City officials, real estate agents and bankers run a monthly open house to sell privately owned property in the city. McCarthy has sent his department heads to talk about the benefits of living in a city, as well as frankly answering questions about the city’s problems. School officials have also participated. Dozens of houses have been sold.

As the supply of houses for sale falls, McCarthy says he believes houses will sell for higher prices. He’s hopeful the city’s total assessed value will eventually rise.

But for 2013, the assessed value of the city is falling. The roll shows that the city’s total assessed value has fallen by $44.1 million.

That means that even if the city’s expenses stay the same, taxes will rise.

McCarthy acknowledged that, but said he has not yet determined the full impact of the assessment changes.

Even though the equalization rate has changed, owners can still grieve their assessment. Grievance forms are due by Grievance Day on Tuesday. Also that day the Board of Assessment Review will hear presentations from owners.

Owners do not have to speak to the board; they can submit their data in writing. Generally, the board only approves grievances if they show that similar houses in the neighborhood are valued at a lower assessment.

There is no cost to file a grievance and no attorney is required.
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So your tax rate will not change.

The state will give the city 4% more in the equalization rate.

That seems fair to the homeowners.

Schenectady is very good at reducing property values.

They suck at reducing your assessed value or your tax rate.
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See the thread about grievance day, it's all explained there.  

Just be aware, this story makes it sound like McC is doing something good


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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Maybe put a 15 or 20 in front of that. So the Mayor thinks that people will start paying more $$$ to get into the City??? Most likely not likely. No matter the value, as of right now taxes are stupid for the value no matter what it is worth. I'll post how my grievance works out, I'm having someone do it.
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Quoted from mikechristine1
See the thread about grievance day, it's all explained there.  

Just be aware, this story makes it sound like McC is doing something good


Are they seriously thinking people will read this and say. "I guess I won't bother challenging my assessment?"

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Seriously ??  Is this man on serious medication?
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Maybe put a 15 or 20 in front of that. So the Mayor thinks that people will start paying more $$$ to get into the City??? Most likely not likely. No matter the value, as of right now taxes are stupid for the value no matter what it is worth. I'll post how my grievance works out, I'm having someone do it.


4% over assessed values? More like 40%. And of course more disinformation about crashing resale values "stabilizing". Like in every Northeastern City-lol. There is no bottom to the DEM implosion. It's the record taxes-stupid. Try lowering the insane DEM rates not just the artificially inflated property values.
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And THE CHEERLEADER IS TOTALLY SILENT on this issue

Just had no understanding whatsoever.  



Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
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LMAO!
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Wondering if the cheerleader for wild spending of the taxpayers' money  has come up with an answer yet.

Here's sales in the nicer section of the city







Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
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Wonder if he'll ever give up?



Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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So here's another round of sales.   You know that McC must have used taxpayer money to stop the Gazette from publishing the lists of sales.    But by law it is public info and MUST be EASILY accessible.

So, do you think McC should decide to reduce the property values far more than the 4% he stated he did?   Of course his statement that he reduced property values by 4%, I re-iterate, will NOT change the amount of taxes someone pays because taxes are based on the assessed value and not on this alleged market value that McC claims houses are worth.   And again, here is the proof that McC's claim of the values going down "only" 4% is clearly wrong!

The assessment column is this year's assessment (currently the tentative).   The "value" column is that so called reduced value.   Naturally sale prices are here and you can all see what houses are selling for compared to what McC claims they are worth.   And the percent reduction in value is the sale price as compared to the "2012 value" (rather than the assessment amount) because the 2012 value is, in theory, what the market value is.




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Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
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Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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MobileTerminal
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phony? like the one the land bank published in the paper and those flyers?

http://citofschdy.org
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Keep the DEM implosion going! But don't fret McCheese has a plan. What it is no one knows. They only silver lining the same DEM politards that keep re-electing these phonies can't sell either. Crisis? What crisis? Hey MC include the Schenectady Armory and Death Ray's Downtown in your next set of figures- lol.
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