This is a gross story. WTH--how is this the fault of planned Parenthood?
What makes it gross? The fact there are dead fetuses, or that the fetuses were roasted and gold foiled? I just want to get an idea when it becomes "gross".
I think we went through this exercise already...But, we can do it one more time. First, a SWAT TEAM will only kill when there is an IMMEDIATE threat to the public. Drone strikes plotted in advance for a specific target, in foreign lands 10,000 miles away, ISN'T A IMMEDIATE THREAT TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. Second, a SWAT TEAM doesn't plot and plan for weeks and months in advance planning the assassination of a potential suspect. SWAT isn't proactive but rather responsive. Unless armed drones have non lethal capabilities that I'm unaware of, the sole purpose of them is to KILL. Third, if a SWAT TEAM kills an innocent person, the person that issued the kill order is held legally accountable. There is no legal action you can take for the wrongful death from the federal ordered assassination of American citizens.
Cic wants to wait until the terrorist in Yemen has planned, built the weapons in Yemen, organized the kill team, and sent them on their way before he would kill the top AlQaeda terrorist. By then, it's too late.
Once the mission is complete and thousands of Americans lay dead... Cic will once again, protect this Bin Laden type terrorist from any lethal action, since he's no longer an "IMMEDIATE THREAT TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC."
Then Cicero says: "Second, a SWAT TEAM doesn't plot and plan for weeks and months in advance planning the assassination of a potential suspect." If you look back at the most publicized "hit team assassination" in US history, The FBI actually DID "PLOT AND PLAN FOR WEEKS AND MONTHS IN ADVANCE PLANNING OF THE ASSASSINATION" of John Dillinger. A criminal who killed many less Americans, and a much less danger to American civilians than present Yemeni Drone targets.
Cic posts that he thinks the top AlQaeda terrorist in Yemen "ISN'T AM IMMEDIATE THREAT TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC." I'm sure Cicero would have looked at Osama Bin Laden in the same way on Sept 10th, 2001.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Then Cicero says: "Second, a SWAT TEAM doesn't plot and plan for weeks and months in advance planning the assassination of a potential suspect." If you look back at the most publicized "hit team assassination" in US history, The FBI actually DID "PLOT AND PLAN FOR WEEKS AND MONTHS IN ADVANCE PLANNING OF THE ASSASSINATION" of John Dillinger. A criminal who killed many less Americans, and a much less danger to American civilians than present Yemeni Drone targets.
There was an arrest warrant issued for Dillenger - by a court, based on evidence.
Are you suggesting that all arrest warrants be executed with a "hail of bullets"?
How many people did Al-Awlaki kill? How many was he "potentially" going to kill? I assume you and Obama have the Minority Report oracles hidden somewhere.
I'm not sure I can agree with you Minority Report "pre-crime" philosophy.
Cic wants to wait until the terrorist in Yemen has planned, built the weapons in Yemen, organized the kill team, and sent them on their way before he would kill the top AlQaeda terrorist. By then, it's too late.
You wake up every day worried about this? Really? Life has to be a white knuckle ride for ya.
How does the rest of the world prevent "terrorist" from attacking them? They don't have drones continually killing; you would think they would be left vulnerable to "terrorism". Why hasn't Switzerland or like Iceland and Greenland been attacked yet? Australia and New Zealand haven't been attacked either, why? How do they prevent these blood thirsty terrorist from attacking them continually without drones?
Americans are so willing to feed into the manufactured hobgoblins. For some reason, Americans like being in irrational perpetual fear. It must validate their love for the big government.
For some reason, Americans like being in irrational perpetual fear.
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ter·ror·ism [ter-uh-riz-uhm] Show IPA noun 1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes. 2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization. 3. a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.
This story just about made me throw up my morning coffee!!!!
For anyone who can read and look at these pictures and not feel utterly and completely disgusted and saddened and SHOCKED.........is morally depleted to say the least!!!
It saddens me to think that the world's 'civilized(?) society' has reached such a low, with no regard for life, which is the cornerstone and building block of all human civilization.
It should be noted though, that this did not occur in the United States, and as far as the history of human civilization in the entire world goes, it's certainly not a new low. Once upon a time, in some places, any child with birth defects, was summarily killed, or left in the wild to fend for themselves.
There are to this day, parts of Africa, where they believe that raping a newborn infant, will cure you of AIDS. The poor kid is dead either way.
There was an arrest warrant issued for Dillenger - by a court, based on evidence. Are you suggesting that all arrest warrants be executed with a "hail of bullets"? How many people did Al-Awlaki kill? How many was he "potentially" going to kill? I assume you and Obama have the Minority Report oracles hidden somewhere. I'm not sure I can agree with you Minority Report "pre-crime" philosophy.
Dillinger might have been captured with out a shot being fired, but it would have put the Federal agents and civilians at risk, from a murderer who is reported to have killed 10 men, wounded 7.
AlQaeda terrorist Al-Awlaki was also on a kill or capture list. Since capture while he was operating in Yemen would be just about impossible, the only option left was to kill him.
Cic paints Al-Awlaki as a peaceful American... the CIA labeled him a very dangerous terrorist. Al-Awlaki was believed to be key in turning Al Qaeda's affiliate in Yemen into what American officials have called the most significant and immediate threat to the United States.
Al-Awlaki plotted several failed attacks on U.S. soil including the botched Christmas 2009 attempt to blow up an American airliner heading to Detroit and a foiled 2010 attempt to send explosives to Chicago.
But Richard Miniter, author of "Losing bin Laden," told Fox News that al-Awlaki's role will be "hard to replace." "He understood American society very well. He understood American idioms and pop culture and how to appeal to Americans," he told Fox News. "It's very hard for them to replicate this."
Al-Awlaki was also involved with U.S. Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, alleged killer of 13 people in the Nov. 5, 2009, rampage at Fort Hood.
Al-Awlaki and Samir Khan wrote that they had moved to Yemen and joined Al Qaeda's fighters, pledging to "wage jihad for the rest of our lives." And they got their wish... they waged jihad on America for the rest of their Predator Ending Shortened lives!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Cic paints Al-Awlaki as a peaceful American... the CIA labeled him a very dangerous terrorist. Al-Awlaki was believed to be key in turning Al Qaeda's affiliate in Yemen into what American officials have called the most significant and immediate threat to the United States.
Al-Awlaki plotted several failed attacks on U.S. soil including the botched Christmas 2009 attempt to blow up an American airliner heading to Detroit and a foiled 2010 attempt to send explosives to Chicago.
But Richard Miniter, author of "Losing bin Laden," told Fox News that al-Awlaki's role will be "hard to replace." "He understood American society very well. He understood American idioms and pop culture and how to appeal to Americans," he told Fox News. "It's very hard for them to replicate this."
Al-Awlaki was also involved with U.S. Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, alleged killer of 13 people in the Nov. 5, 2009, rampage at Fort Hood.
Al-Awlaki and Samir Khan wrote that they had moved to Yemen and joined Al Qaeda's fighters, pledging to "wage jihad for the rest of our lives."And they got their wish... they waged jihad on America for the rest of their Predator Ending Shortened lives!(Jihad - : a crusade for a principle or belief)Christians do the same thing, instead of Jihadist, they call the Missionaries.
...And I suppose you have Al-Awlaki's defense testimony? How about his arrest warrant? Witness testimony? So the states rest, I'm still waiting for the defenses case.
the most significant and immediate threat to the United States.
The government made the same case for the invaision of Iraq...For some reason I remember Box not accepting the governments lies about Iraq, but, as long as there is a (D) next to the Presidents name, all government violent actions againt their own citizens are fair and just.
...And I suppose you have Al-Awlaki's defense testimony? How about his arrest warrant? Witness testimony? So the states rest, I'm still waiting for the defenses case.
They are all documented... sitting on a desk, right next to Bin Laden's.
How many more people would Al-Awlaki have to kill before you sanctioned his assassination? How many Americans (and others) are alive due to that Predator strike?
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The government made the same case for the invaision of Iraq...For some reason I remember Box not accepting the governments lies about Iraq, but, as long as there is a (D) next to the Presidents name, all government violent actions againt their own citizens are fair and just.
Cic is wrong yet again.
I did accept GWB's case for the invasion of Iraq. I was one of those fools who believed that no one, not even the president of the USA would tell a lie that big. I was wrong... GWB was lying. As a result of those lies, thousands of Americans were killed and tens of thousands seriously wounded in Iraq. Like most of America, I first doubted the WMD charge, but then believed GWB. In the end... All GWB accomplished in Iraq, could have been carried out with one Predator Drone.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
How many more people would Al-Awlaki have to kill before you sanctioned his assassination? How many Americans (and others) are alive due to that Predator strike?
How many did he kill? You say "more"...I'm not aware of one person. If the state has evidence he murdered people, then it should be an easy case for the state to make. The warrant should have easy to get. Your previous post did't state any evidence linking him to murder.
How many are alive because of Predator Drone Strike? How many innocent Middle Easterner's are dead because Predator Drone Strikes?
I did accept GWB's case for the invasion of Iraq. I was one of those fools who believed that no one, not even the president of the USA would tell a lie that big. I was wrong... GWB was lying.
Ahhh...So you don't have the ability to learn from your mistakes. That's a learning disability.
How about the Gulf of Tonkin lie? Who was lying then? Did you belive your government then? In hindsight, do you believe the government lied? Even if there were drones then, do you believe Vietnam could have and should have been fought with drones or not at all? Have you realized that the Vietnamese were not a threat to Americans. Well, not until we dropped our young men into their country. Were you scared of the Soviet "Red Army" invading America like you are afraid of the "terrorists" attacking America?
At this point in your life, haven't you realized yet that the hobgoblins have been created for governments to maintain control? The Soviets were are allies in WWII and our sworn enemy a decade later. Both nations political parties benefited by making the other nation sworn enemies.
How many did he kill? You say "more"...I'm not aware of one person. If the state has evidence he murdered people, then it should be an easy case for the state to make. The warrant should have easy to get. Your previous post did't state any evidence linking him to murder.
To my knowledge Al-Awlaki personally killed the exact same number of people as Adolph Hitler... yet both are responsible for untold killings. A conspirator to commit murder often receives the same capitol punishment as those who actually committed the murder.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
To my knowledge Al-Awlaki personally killed the exact same number of people as Adolph Hitler... yet both are responsible for untold killings. A conspirator to commit murder often receives the same capitol punishment as those who actually committed the murder.
Even leaders of the Nazi Party had the Nuremberg trials before being put to death. And some leaders were even aquitted. Imagine that!!! I know, you can't.
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