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Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as president of the United States:
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
The Twelfth Amendment states that, "No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States." The Fourteenth Amendment does not use the phrase natural-born citizen. It does provide that "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
Under Article One of the United States Constitution, representatives and senators are only required to be U.S. citizens.[2][3]
The first several presidents prior to Martin van Buren, as well as potential presidential candidates, were born as British subjects in British America before the American Revolution.[4]


But you don't necessarily have to be born in the US to be a Natural Born Citizen.  That's what I'm saying.  I don't care if he was born in Hawaii or if he was born in Africa.  I want to know if he is a Natural Born Citizen, i.e. were his parents citizens and/or here legally, and if he was born here, was he and his family actually subject to the jurisdiction of the United States?


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But you don't necessarily have to be born in the US to be a Natural Born Citizen.  That's what I'm saying.  I don't care if he was born in Hawaii or if he was born in Africa.  I want to know if he is a Natural Born Citizen, i.e. were his parents citizens and/or here legally, and if he was born here, was he and his family actually subject to the jurisdiction of the United States?


Obama's mom was born in Wichita, Kansas (an American citizen by birth)
Barack Obama was born in Hawaii... (an American citizen by birth)
Not much else has any relevance.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Per Libforlife the economy is improving and growing at a horrible 2.3%. Obama has had 3 years to correct this countries horrible fiscal state and the besty you can do is blame Bush what a pathetic excuse. When is Obama going to man up and accept some responsibility for his policies that haven't worked. By the way the debt is growing at a much faster pace than the GDP and if you ran your personal budget that way how long would it be before you went bankrupt?


A major reelection promotion will happen for Barack Obama when he invites George Worst Bush and Laura,
back to the White House for the unveiling of their official portraits.

It's a "rare joint appearance between the current and past presidents... It could also provide an interesting
interaction between Bush and Obama, whose re-election campaign continues to remind voters of the
economic troubles the Democrat inherited when he took over from Bush."


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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And Bush inherited a recession too and endured 911 big deal, the presidents job is to deal with the countries problems but instead our current president thinks his job is to campaign for 4 years. Bush was only a little better than Obama as far as spending goes and yes Bush saddled us with the debt from 2 wars. Obama has to accept the fact that he's increased our debt more than any other president and it has to stop before we end up with the same problems that Greece, Spain, and Italy are facing.
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And Bush inherited a recession too and endured 911 big deal, the presidents job is to deal with the countries problems but instead our current president thinks his job is to campaign for 4 years. Bush was only a little better than Obama as far as spending goes and yes Bush saddled us with the debt from 2 wars. Obama has to accept the fact that he's increased our debt more than any other president and it has to stop before we end up with the same problems that Greece, Spain, and Italy are facing.


So far, in spite of the GOP Party of NO!...
~ Obama has managed to save 1million American auto worker jobs...
~Turn the economy around where we finally are going in the right direction...
~Provide Health Insurance Coverage for all Americans...
~ End George W Bush's unnecessary war in Iraq...
~ Set an end date for the war in Afghanistan...

in the midst of the Bush Economic Meltdown.  

IMO, if Obama in 8 years, gets the country back to where it was when GWB took office, his presidency will
be a great success!



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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So far, in spite of the GOP Party of NO!...
~ Obama has managed to save 1million American auto worker jobs...at the expense of tax payers and bailouts
~Turn the economy around where we finally are going in the right direction...except the economy is not standing on its own 2 feet, trillions are being used as a crutch.
~Provide Health Insurance Coverage for all Americans...provide? don't you mean force
~ End George W Bush's unnecessary war in Iraq...3 years after he stated it will be his first thing to do
~ Set an end date for the war in Afghanistan...the war might end but the occupation is set while beyond 2020 according to the government.




"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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~ End George W Bush's unnecessary war in Iraq...3 years after he stated it will be his first thing to do

Really Henry... look up the facts before you correct my post...
Obama did exactly what he said he'd do when he was running for president on Iraq!
His promise: Withdraw combat troops with in 16 months...
From Politifact.org:
Obama keeps his promise on getting combat troops out of Iraq




http://www.politifact.com/trut.....-combat-troops-out-/


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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I will protect federal whistleblowers who expose government waste, fraud, and abuse ......Broken
I will recognize the Armenian Genocide.....Broken
I will have transparency-generals must sign secrecy oath........Broken
I will cut the deficit in half by doubling spending–say what.......Broken
I will change the Washington culture of corruption.......................Broken
I will reach across the isle (I’m ready to fight Republicans)....Broken

I will have no earmarks in stimulus, there are 9000..................Broken
I will have transparency in White House emails except mine....Broken
I will demand human rights for China and Tibet..............................Broken
I will put legislation on Internet for all to read before votes....Broken
I will have honest advisers, except those who take free rent......Broken
I will have my administration pay their fair share of taxes........Broken
I will eliminate rendition of terrorist combatants..........................Broken
I will have a transparent admin. with the media.............................Breaking
I will bring charges against Bush admin. war crimes.....................Broken
I will have new blood in admin. but names Panetta to CIA..........Broken
I will have a transparent government..................................................Broken
I quite smoking (admits to bumming cigarettes)...........................Broken
I will apply windfall taxes on big oil companies.................................Broken
I will change US Foreign Policy, appoints Hillary Sec. State......Broken
I will change the defense department, YET keeps Gates............Broken
I will close Guantanamo............................................................................Breaking
I will sit down with dictators with no pre-conditions....................Broken
I will stop waterboarding and CIA interrogation techniques......Breaking
I will use federal campaign funds..........................................................Broken
I will get US troops out of Iraq in 16 month....................................Broken
I will change Washington with new faces............................................Broken
I will not hire lobbyists, hires lobbyist Daschle (he's out but here are the others)....Broken
* Melody Barnes, lobbyist for American Civil Liberties Union, the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, the American Constitution Society and the Center for Reproductive Rights.
* William Corr, lobbyist for Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids,
* Patrick Gaspard, lobbyist for Service Employees International Union.
* David Hayes, lobby San Diego Gas & Electric.
* Eric Holder, attorney general nominee, lobbyist for bankrupt Global Crossing telecommications.
* Ron Klain, lobbyist for Asbestos Resolution, U.S. Airways, Airborne Express and drug-maker ImClone.
* William Lynn, lobbyist for Raytheon.
* Cecilia Munoz, lobbyist for National Council of La Raza
* Mark Patterson, lobbyist for Goldman Sachs.
* Mona Sutphen, lobbyist for Angliss International.
* Michael Strautmanis, lobbied for the American Association of Justice.
* Tom Vilsack, lobbyist for NEA.

I will be non-partisan. Hires highly partisan Emanuel..................Broken
I will eliminate Bush tax cuts.................................................................Broken
I will dump Patriot Act wire tapping....................................................Breaking
I will eliminate tax breaks for wealthy..................................................Broken
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Per Libforlife the economy is improving and growing at a horrible 2.3%. Obama has had 3 years to correct this countries horrible fiscal state and the besty you can do is blame Bush what a pathetic excuse. When is Obama going to man up and accept some responsibility for his policies that haven't worked. By the way the debt is growing at a much faster pace than the GDP and if you ran your personal budget that way how long would it be before you went bankrupt?


The GOP dragged their feet at every turn to try to improve this country, with the belief that if they made the country miserable enough, that Obama would be voted out, and they could continue to rape the country, and the world.

They are the worst scum that there is.
Cut aid to education, health and the poor, but continue corporate welfare for the richest, most successful companies in history.



Obama isn't the one that put us trillions further in the hole with 2 wars that are complete nonsense.


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When the Dems shoved the health-care law down the Republicans, and we the peoples throats , and kept Republicans out of any law making bills in 2008 and 2009, do you honestly think that the Republicans are going to work with the Dems after that. You forget the housing crisis started the financial meltdown and that fiasco belongs to the Dems compliments of Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and Jimmy Carter. The people spoke in 2010 and stopped the Dems from their spending spree. Thank goodness for the party of no or we would already be Greece.
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When the Dems shoved the health-care law down the Republicans, and we the peoples throats ,


When the Dems shoved the health-care law down the Republicans, and we the peoples throats???

US Presidents who supported universal health care for all Americans:


Six decades ago, Republican President Dwight David Eisenhower, in office from 1953-1961, condemned
the "small government" ideas of the current GOP. Ike supported the New Deal, and he said that the way
to balance the budget was to tax the rich. Republican President Richard Nixon called for health care
legislation that was stronger than the current reform. Republican President Ronald Reagan said of the
1983 Social Security Amendments he signed into law, "These amendments reaffirm the commitment of
our government to the performance and stability of Social Security." The current GOP shows little respect
for its own history.


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The previous presidents weren't planning on doing it the way that Oblamer did it with smoke mirrors and lies.
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I still stand........where was the editor/proof reader? How did this mis-information be allowed to be 'out there' for all of these uyears??? What other mis-information is out there?


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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Hope and Change that resulted in Obama following so many policies he campaigned directly against....


The individual mandate... Indefinite detention... Closing GITMO... Attacking Libya without Congressional authorization.... Letting Sudan off the hook for Dafur.... Killing the manned NASA space program... Raising the debt ceiling... Increasing taxes on the non wealthy...Abandoning PAYGO... Endorsement of spending freezes... Not supporting competitive bidding on all government contracts... Meeting with special interest lobbyist like Big Pharma on the Obamacare plan behind closed doors instead of the promised transparency... Continuing the Cuba embargo... Not recognizing the Armenian genocide. as he vowed to do before elected... Flip flopping on naming the Iran Revolutionary guard as terrorist group, something he now supports but he attacked Republicans and Hilliary Clinton on before elected... Once supported higher prices for gas but now is running away from that as it is unpopular politically for him... Changing his position after being elected on using the Strategic Oil reserve, which he once said should be saved for a genuine emergency, but has now used for purely political reasons when his poll numbers started to dip with no genuuine emergency in sight... The Keystone pipeline which he praised as a candidate but has stymied as a President... His support for single payer healthcare as a candidate, and his distancing himself saying he did not say he was a supporter of this socialized medicine once president due to re-election politics... Flip flopping on Obamacare costs saying he wouldn't sign Obamacare if it added to the deficit then doing so, signing Obamacare passed by reconciliation when he said previously that healthcare reform should not be passed in such a manner... Flip flopping on taxing healthcare benefits which he had attacked McCain on but which Obamacare that he signed imposes a 40% tax on some policies... His opposition as a candidate of cracking down on employers of illegals something he has done as president... Ending the use of military tribubnals for terrorism suspects which he called for as a candidate but has flip-flopped on as President.




"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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I still stand........where was the editor/proof reader? How did this mis-information be allowed to be 'out there' for all of these uyears??? What other mis-information is out there?


LOL...How about asking the right questions.

To be honest, how did the 'birthers' miss this? This would have been thier crown jewel. Hard to think that the Clinton machine would have missed this, since they were the ones that originally questioned his citizenship.

Why didn't the media properly vet Obama...Oh wait, they were totally (and still are) in the tank for him and were too buzy digging up dirt on Palin and her daughter. Also would have been considered 'racist'.





"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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