I posted: " Anyone serving his country in the military, whether at war or not, has put his life and safety at risk for the COMMON GOOD OF HIS COUNTRY. " Most in the military never see combat. Those "OTHERS" you refer to? There were plenty of people on the home-front in riskier jobs supporting the war effort? The CIA? Counter intelligence? Like the military, most will never see "combat" in their wars... and they are free to quite at any time.
You also posted this "People who are fighting here at home to protect our rights, will go home at the end of the day and sleep in their bed... protected by those patriots in the military who secure their rights and freedom.
Both are noble endeavors but they are not equal efforts.
Consider the chicken and the pig when you eat your ham & eggs for breakfast... The Chicken was involved in your breakfast... the pig was committed to your meal. Both animals gave to your breakfast, but their effort was not equal"
You didn't discriminate on combat vs non-combat military, you just painted with a broad brush and basically said anyone who was non-military was not equal in effort.
Who? Steamfitters, welders, civilian test pilots, blacks who worked in previously all-white shipyards..All in more danger than the paper pushing seaman stationed at the Brooklyn navy yard.
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
You didn't discriminate on combat vs non-combat military, you just painted with a broad brush and basically said anyone who was non-military was not equal in effort.
Who? Steamfitters, welders, civilian test pilots, blacks who worked in previously all-white shipyards..All in more danger than the paper pushing seaman stationed at the Brooklyn navy yard.
Any one in the US Military puts his life on the line... even if he/she's a paper pusher. In all our wars, there is a number of casualties who were rear area "paper pushers" or support troops, killed by rocket attacks, artillery, truck bombs, mortars, mines etc.
~None of your Steamfitters, welders, civilian test pilots, were killed on purpose by the enemy. ~Your Steamfitters, welders, civilian test pilots were working at a JOB. The danger involved is often part of the compensation package or salary for that job. ~Your Steamfitters, welders, civilian test pilots, went home every night and slept in their beds, and were secure as any American sleeping in his home... not sleeping in a ditch in a war zone. ~Your Steamfitters, welders, civilian test pilots, if they decided they no longer liked the job... QUIT.
There are civilian jobs that are more dangerous than some military jobs... but in those civilian jobs, no one is trying to kill you. In the First Gulf war, there was a rocket attack that hit an office building containing some of your "paper pushers" ... all American troops and many died in service to their country. There are often 10 support troops for every 1 combat infantry man... all are required to complete the mission.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
For some reason Ted Neugent is now being recognized as the EMBARRASSMENT that he is... The NRA all of a sudden is backing away from Gun Nut Neugent.
On the day Ted Nugent is set to meet with the Secret Service about some incendiary remarks he made about President Obama at last weekend’s NRA national convention in St. Louis, the NRA deleted the archived footage of the comments from the internet.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Any one in the US Military puts his life on the line... even if he/she's a paper pusher. In all our wars, there is a number of casualties who were rear area "paper pushers" or support troops, killed by rocket attacks, artillery, truck bombs, mortars, mines etc.
~None of your Steamfitters, welders, civilian test pilots, were killed on purpose by the enemy. ~Your Steamfitters, welders, civilian test pilots were working at a JOB. The danger involved is often part of the compensation package or salary for that job. ~Your Steamfitters, welders, civilian test pilots, went home every night and slept in their beds, and were secure as any American sleeping in his home... not sleeping in a ditch in a war zone. ~Your Steamfitters, welders, civilian test pilots, if they decided they no longer liked the job... QUIT.
There are civilian jobs that are more dangerous than some military jobs... but in those civilian jobs, no one is trying to kill you. In the First Gulf war, there was a rocket attack that hit an office building containing some of your "paper pushers" ... all American troops and many died in service to their country. There are often 10 support troops for every 1 combat infantry man... all are required to complete the mission.
There's no use arguing the point with you any longer, its obvious you have the ex-Marine 'tude. You're not the first ex-Marine I've met with the 'tude, you won't be the last. I guess we can discount the people I mentioned above that died on the job or were injured, since after all they could have quit. What about all the civilian seamen that were killed off both US coasts during the German u-boat shooting gallery of 1941-42? Nah, they could have quit. What about the military members killed who enlisted by CHOICE?? oops, different set of rules.
I get it now, Semper Fi
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
There's no use arguing the point you with any longer, its obvious you have the ex-Marine 'tude. You're not the first ex-Marine I've met with the 'tude, you won't be the last. I guess we can discount the people I mentioned above that died on the job or were injured, since after all they could have quit. What about all the civilian seamen that were killed off both US coasts during the German u-boat shooting gallery of 1941-42? Nah, they could have quit. What about the military members killed who enlisted by CHOICE?? oops, different set of rules. I get it now, Semper Fi
NO Tbird... You don't get it... and I doubt you ever will.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
NO Tbird... You don't get it... and I doubt you ever will.
As I thought... Where have I heard this before?
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
Any one in the US Military puts his life on the line...
So did people like MLK and other protesters who got their skulls caved in for fighting for peoples rights and for simply exercising them.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
So did people like MLK and other protesters who got their skulls caved in for fighting for peoples rights and for simply exercising them.
Ssshhhh....
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
So did people like MLK and other protesters who got their skulls caved in for fighting for peoples rights and for simply exercising them.
I agree, so did Union Organizers, many Planned Parenthood staff and others who fight for equal rights. Police and fire protection also risk life and limb for their community. Sacrifice is not exclusive to only those in the military.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Any one in the US Military puts his life on the line...
Yes, they will kill or be killed for a flag. If a person with stripes on his chest tells a soldier to burn a village to the ground, he'll burn a village to the ground. That is mindless patriotism. It is a dirty word.
Yes, they will kill or be killed for a flag. If a person with stripes on his chest tells a soldier to burn a village to the ground, he'll burn a village to the ground. That is mindless patriotism. It is a dirty word.
The more you post on this subject, the more you show your lack of knowledge of how and WHY the military operates.
No one that I know kills or is willing to be killed for a flag. That only happens in your distorted view of the military. You post of things you have no real knowledge about. Again, your OPINION is worthless.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The more you post on this subject, the more you show your lack of knowledge of how and WHY the military operates.
Oh, please tell me why the US military operates. You are the guy arguing against Bush's illegal war in Iraq and told me to read War is a Racket. After reading it, I came to the conclusion that a soldiers blind patriotism is what allows nations to convince young men to kill for corporate interests and not in national defense.
I agree, so did Union Organizers, many Planned Parenthood staff and others who fight for equal rights. Police and fire protection also risk life and limb for their community. Sacrifice is not exclusive to only those in the military.
"People who are fighting here at home to protect our rights, will go home at the end of the day and sleep in their bed."
This is what you said so you can see why I take that as a insult knowing that many didn't make it home to bed, like the military us citizens are also taking casualties to protect our freedoms. The sad part is the citizens are getting killed or wounded on our own soil by those who took an oath to either protect and serve or defend our constitutional rights. I'm not blasting the military or police but I'm just pointing out the truth to how far we are from what we know as the land of the free.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
No one that I know kills or is willing to be killed for a flag. That only happens in your distorted view of the military. You post of things you have no real knowledge about. Again, your OPINION is worthless.
So soldiers were really fighting for IRAQ after 9/11? I bet if you asked most of them "like my cousin the marine". They were 100% fighting for our flag, killing and willing to be killed for it. And i'm proud of him for it. I'm not proud of our government for sending him there.
I don't spell check! Sorry... If you include "No offense" in a statement, chances are, your statement is offensive.
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