Quoted from joebxr

Sadly it is a historic place from history that could be saved from the damage incurred if it wre not so costly, and unless repaired it is not marketable. The real question now is how will the County handle dealing with it. It cannot remain an empty disintegrating structure. But will the political machine face the facts and meet this head on....I doubt it.  They will ignore it best they can in hopes of passing it off to some future administration after they have moved on. Maybe PLEX should put the money into restoring the structure of this building and finding a marketable use for it.

The county has attempted in the past to acquire the property for SCCC but the state chose to put it up for auction.   Since the state holds the deed to the property -- the building is still the state's responsibility.

I wouldn't be opposed to Metroplex stepping in.  I have never been opposed to Metroplex being involved in economic development projects.

maybe they will give it away when they sell those cars they wasted......over and over and over and over and over and over......it would be a boobie prize

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

That is fine -- so you now have established some reasonable criteria for some historic status .... now the question is ---  What potential uses for the site do you propose?   And -- who are you going to get to buy it and put up the money needed to stabilize the building and put it to that new use ?

If no one comes up with a feasible new use and the money to stabilize and adapt it for the reuse -  then I am afraid it may very well have to be torn down and replaced with something else.   So far  - the state has been trying to sell it for a number of years and no one has come forward with either a plan or the money.

How about a place to store and maintain city trucks..... a gym for SCCC?  

how about a place to store DVOR and friends for show and tell?

Quoted from senders

how about a place to store DVOR and friends for show and tell?

auntie's basement

Quoted from GrahamBonnet

auntie's basement

I hear the fibbies are gonna raid that place soon

LOL!!!!!!!!! They ought raid the whole criminal enterprise.

Quoted from TakingItBack

How about a place to store and maintain city trucks..... a gym for SCCC?  

The city built a facility for its Public Works Department so it doesn't need another facility for its trucks.

And as I said previously -- SCCC attempted to acquire the armory in the past but the state chose to put it up for auction.    

I agree that it could be a good place for a gym.   I don't know how much it would cost to rehab it -- but it certainly seems like a good use for the building/

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

The city built a facility for its Public Works Department so it doesn't need another facility for its trucks.

And as I said previously -- SCCC attempted to acquire the armory in the past but the state chose to put it up for auction.    

I agree that it could be a good place for a gym.   I don't know how much it would cost to rehab it -- but it certainly seems like a good use for the building/

Your missing my point. Like everything else the city does, they are stubborn and had to spend 20 million up on Foster Ave.  SCCC wanted to purchase the building for a dollar.  

Quoted from TakingItBack

Your missing my point. Like everything else the city does, they are stubborn and had to spend 20 million up on Foster Ave.  SCCC wanted to purchase the building for a dollar.  

And your missing my point -- the county had a plan for the armory and the state could have sold it for a $1 or some nominal amount.  The building was built by taxpayers and the county proposal would have save local tax payers money in order to fill a local need by using the building for SCCC.   The state could have been reasonable and worked with the county for the benefit of ALL taxpayers.   Instead, the state chose to try to sell it to the highest bidder and no one wanted it.  So the fact that the building is still empty and is now falling apart is the state's fault -- and no one else's.

As for the city's DPW facility, I don't have any opinion one way or the other the project and don't intend to get caught up in any argument over it, either.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

I wouldn't be opposed to Metroplex stepping in.  I have never been opposed to Metroplex being involved in economic development projects.

Don't you believe it is better to INCREASE the TAXABLE tax base in the city?     Not opposing Metroplex projects means that you support the REDUCTION of the TAXABLE tax base!!!!

Of course, as long as it's taxpayer funded handouts to the well-heeled and politically connected downtown, to the the total neglect of the taxpayers and the neighborhoods (where people LIVE), you support it.   As long as it's stealing money from the homeonwers via increased taxes in order to exempt downtown from paying taxes, you support it.   As long as homeowners have repair needs to their homes but cannot pay to repair because the dem team steal the homeonwers money to repair buildings for the connected, you support that.

Right...the County is wonderful at rehabing old buildings. Like the Metropolex giving Proctors millions to purchase and rehab 440 State Street five years ago and now Transfinders is tearing it down. A waste of millions of taxpayers dollars.

Fact is, Schenectady County knows nothing about maintaining neighborhoods. MP and the Hill will eventually need to be bulldozed as the City can't figure out a way to bring decent homeowners and decent tenants to the City without promises of section 8.

The City needs to cut property taxes, cut fees, and stop over-assessing homes. Real estate is 'location, location, location' ...Schenectady has none of those.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

I agree that it could be a good place for a gym.   I don't know how much it would cost to rehab it -- but it certainly seems like a good use for the building/

Naturally you don't know how much something costs.   Someone who does not own property, does not pay taxes, and is unemployed and living off the taxpayers, such a person would not have a clue about how much something costs.

You think it would be a good place for a gym.   We already have one taxpayer funded gym downtown, now you suggest a second taxpayer funded gym.

Tell us DV, tell us, from WHERE is the money suppose to come?    You obviously think money grows on trees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is ABSOLUTELY NO NEED WHATSOEVER for even one taxpayer funded gym downtown or ANYWHERE !!!!!!!!!!!!    

Of course we know you don't go to a gym anyway, but regardless, anyone who wishes to go to a gym, there are many PRIVATE BUSINESS gyms around that that MORE THAN MEETS the needs.   If one cannot afford to go to a gym, then by a mat and exercise at home, buy a bike and ride it, and if one is too lazy to work to make money for a gym, a floor mat or a bike, then walk or run.  

Quoted from mikechristine1

Don't you believe it is better to INCREASE the TAXABLE tax base in the city?     Not opposing Metroplex projects means that you support the REDUCTION of the TAXABLE tax base!!!!

Of course, as long as it's taxpayer funded handouts to the well-heeled and politically connected downtown, to the the total neglect of the taxpayers and the neighborhoods (where people LIVE), you support it.   As long as it's stealing money from the homeonwers via increased taxes in order to exempt downtown from paying taxes, you support it.   As long as homeowners have repair needs to their homes but cannot pay to repair because the dem team steal the homeonwers money to repair buildings for the connected, you support that.

If you actually read what I posted instead of shooting off your mouth like an idiot - you would have read that I written that I would prefer that the property be put back on the tax rolls.

You would have also read that I wrote the COUNTY wanted to use it for a gym for SCCC at one time and another person in this same thread said that he/she thought it should be used for a gym.    Personally, I don't care whether it is used a gym by SCCC or sold for another use ...  I DID very clearly state that I would prefer it be put back on the tax rolls ----   but frankly anything is better than seeing the building stand empty and falling apart.

And - again you repeat lies about me personally -- lies about something that has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of the thread.    It is probably because you are pathetic jack-a** who gets his/her thrills being a cyber bully.  

You are a mindless boor that is hell-bent on making all kinds of stupid and nasty remarks without any shred of actual evidence to back it up.   Either start to make an attempt to have civil, reasonable adult discussions or slither back under your rock.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

You are a mindless boor that is hell-bent on making all kinds of stupid and nasty remarks without any shred of actual evidence to back it up.   Either start to make an attempt to have civil, reasonable adult discussions or slither back under your rock.

I provide no evidence?????        Uh, who is the KING of not providing any evidence??????


How about YOU provide EVIDENCE that the dem team (Stratton/Mcc/Savage woman/Gillen, and their respective members) have improved the  city.  

How about YOU provide EVIDENCE that the dem team have increased the TAXABLE tax base in the city!   I have provided the evidence that they have SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCED the taxable tax base

How about YOU provide EVIDENCE that the dem team have reduced taxes!    I have provided the evidence that they have increaed taxes

How about YOU provide EVIDENCE that the dem team actions have resulted in increasing home values!    I have provided EVIDENCE many times over that the property values in the city have PLUMMETED --- and it is NOT, I repeat NOT from the overall economy and real estate problem,because other areas WITHIN the capital region are seeing property values INCREASE and I have provided EVIDENCE of such.

How about YOU provide EVIDENCE that the dem team actions have resulted in people  choosing to buy homes in the city.   I have provided EVIDENCE to the contrary.   In fact, ONE of the MANY pieces of evidence to the contrary is from the dems themselves---the fact that they have turned to such acts of DESPARATION to have to take people around on a bus to see houses, that they have to come up with stupid programs of no money down, mortgaages more than the value of the houses, etc.

How about YOU provide EVIDENCE that the dem team actions have caused homeonwers to choose to remain in the city.   I have provided EVIDENCE that people are trying to get out of the city.  In fact, even that overpaid Morris (funded by the taxpayers) with his whopping $200,000+ salary chose to FLEE THE CITY.   But he sure keeps screwing the taxpayers, refusoing to pay taxes on his for-profit business with it's property worth a whopping $26 million, and then he has the  nerve to steal from the taxpyaers by illegally having two STAR exemptions.

How about YOU provide EVIDENCE that the dem team actions have resulted in those high paid DOT employees wanting to live in the city!    I have provided EVIDENCE that even the highest paid at that DOT office downtown have avoided the city like the plague, after 8 years NOT ONE chose to buy in the city that they were forced to work in.

How about YOU provide EVIDENCE of the comment you made a few times that the county taxes are the lowest since the 1950's.   I have provided EVIDENCE to the contrary.


WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE ON ANYTHING!!!!!!!!