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February 26, 2012, 7:53am Report to Moderator
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hey ronnie, this one's moving up on the charts....................

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By what criteria are you judging that the Schenectady Armory is a historical building .. a landmark in need of preservation ??????????????????

How about it was listed in 1995 on National Register of Historic Places. Built in 1936 New York's state architect, William Haugaard, used the Art Deco architectural style for exterior of building and the interior mode was Tudorbethan.



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you know what?????   you don't get it......just because something may be old doesn't mean that

it can't be preserved.....there is history there.....but, the government today doesn't remember it...

and that's the problem....the city is a puzzle ...because none of what has or being constructed has

any theme and does not compliment what the city of Schenectady represents.

You stay on the planning committee....you seem to have more interest in parks and such than

keeping your nose in a city that you don't even know......where were you raised???/  when were you

born???   what can you talk about that brings back what the city was like back in the day...

it was bustling and business was thriving.....what have you got today.....bars, restaurants,  a theater

located in one area......Nott Terrace to Erie Blvd.....

your mindset is oblivious to common sense anyway......

make sure your parks have swings.....swing ....swing...swing....
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The marble train station in Schenectady should serve as a reminder that once you tear down marble, you'll only get plywood in its place.

Let's start tearing down the Stockade buildings....I mean they're all old...even if it's the ONLY part of the City people will actually pay to visit.
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Rach...stated with intelligence......kudos to you
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If that building could be saved and put to good use, I'd be a fan of it.

However no one seems to be interested in it.

I doubt even if given away that a private investor would:

1)  Pay for the repairs
2)  Pay the property taxes
3)  Have any substantial use for it with its limited parking.  It's a huge building - whatever you use it for would probably involve many people, and there is no real good parking solution.

Even if you say that the state or whomever should have been on the ball with proper maintenance and #1 shouldn't be an issue today, I still fail to see who would invest the kind of money in local taxes to locate there.  The same people who don't want to tear it down, are the people who think the Metroplex is an utter failure and no one wants to locate businesses in Sch'dy unless massive incentives are given.  (And you're right!)

I am not dying to tear it down either, I'm just being pragmatic and do not see a solution that saves the building.
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put it to sleep along with ingersol....


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No parking -= No Solution/salvation for the armory.  I just don't see any other way around it.
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Could anyone imagine what the taxes would be???  

Lets say you bought it for $500,000. To me, IF they assessed it at that, the taxes would probably be around 30,000. But as you made improvements (and you would have to in order to make money or get another use out of it) the assessment will probably triple, making the taxes around $80-90,000 a YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There is NO WAY a business can do anything with that UNLESS they are actively sucking off the democrap party with bribes (the supposedly legal ones) here and getting the PILOT deals, grants and reductions and all the other glory hole perks that Gardner and Gillen order up for the people who make payoffs to the party help them maintain the death grip on the taxpayers' throats. It will be torn down and the college will get it for free.


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How did Jim Coyne buy and repair the property in Albany he took over ....and is it still being used???

just askin'
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Quoted from joebxr

How about it was listed in 1995 on National Register of Historic Places. Built in 1936 New York's state architect, William Haugaard, used the Art Deco architectural style for exterior of building and the interior mode was Tudorbethan.



That is fine -- so you now have established some reasonable criteria for some historic status .... now the question is ---  What potential uses for the site do you propose?   And -- who are you going to get to buy it and put up the money needed to stabilize the building and put it to that new use ?

If no one comes up with a feasible new use and the money to stabilize and adapt it for the reuse -  then I am afraid it may very well have to be torn down and replaced with something else.   So far  - the state has been trying to sell it for a number of years and no one has come forward with either a plan or the money.


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That is fine -- so you now have established some reasonable criteria for some historic status .... now the question is ---  What potential uses for the site do you propose?   And -- who are you going to get to buy it and put up the money needed to stabilize the building and put it to that new use ?

If no one comes up with a feasible new use and the money to stabilize and adapt it for the reuse -  then I am afraid it may very well have to be torn down and replaced with something else.   So far  - the state has been trying to sell it for a number of years and no one has come forward with either a plan or the money.


Sadly it is a historic place from history that could be saved from the damage incurred if it wre not so costly, and unless repaired it is not marketable. The real question now is how will the County handle dealing with it. It cannot remain an empty disintegrating structure. But will the political machine face the facts and meet this head on....I doubt it.  They will ignore it best they can in hopes of passing it off to some future administration after they have moved on. Maybe PLEX should put the money into restoring the structure of this building and finding a marketable use for it.


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Considering that you are NOT a stakeholder -- I really needn't take any of your imbecilic solutions or comments seriously.


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Quoted from Hamburg
Considering that you are NOT a stakeholder -- I really needn't take any of your imbecilic solutions or comments seriously.


Awwww, now that really hurts!!!!!


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must be DVOR is entertaining Ham.....so funny...so weird...
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