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A bumper sticker slogan to cover the complete failure of Metrograft/IDA's/DSIC, etc. When is the County moving to the old Trustco HQ on vacant Erie Blvd? Plenty of surface parking over there- lol.  
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HOUSE OF CARDS - Only a matter of Time before they tighten the choker on our necks
"We continue to research what the impact of the new property tax cap will be on debt issued by nonschool districts after it goes into effect next year."





Announcement: MOODY'S AFFIRMS THE A1/ NO OUTLOOK RATING ON THE CITY OF SCHENECTADY'S (NY) GENERAL OBLIGATION DEBT
Global Credit Research - 23 Nov 2011
New York, November 23, 2011 -- Moody's Investors Service has affirmed the A1 underlying rating and NO OUTLOOK on the City of Schenectady's (NY) $38.6 million of outstanding general obligation bonds. The bonds are secured by the city's unlimited property tax pledge.


RATINGS RATIONALE

The affirmation of A1 is based upon the city's sizeable tax base which benefits from continued economic development, satisfactory but declining financial position and above average debt burden.

WHAT COULD MAKE THE RATING CHANGE-UP:

Increase in the city's financial flexibility and reserve position
Decrease in the city's debt burden

WHAT COULD MAKE THE RATING CHANGE-DOWN

Further decrease of the city's reserves and cash position
The principal methodology used in this rating was General Obligation Bonds Issued by U.S. Local Governments in October 2009. Please see the Credit Policy page on http://www.moodys.com for a copy of this methodology.


Rating Action: MOODY'S ASSIGNS Aa1 RATING TO SCHENECTADY COUNTY'S (NY) $4.71 MILLION VARIOUS PURPOSES SERIAL BONDS - 2011
Global Credit Research - 19 Dec 2011
Aa1 RATING AFFECTS $55.4 MILLION OF OUTSTANDING PARITY DEBT
New York, December 19, 2011 -- Moody's Rating

Issue: Various Purpose Serial Bonds, 2011; Rating: Aa1; Sale Amount: $4,712,458; Expected Sale Date: 12/20/2011; Rating Description: General Obligation Limited Tax


OPINION

Moody's Investors Service has assigned a Aa1 rating to Schenectady County's (NY) $4.71 million Various Purposes Serial Bonds - 2011. The bonds are secured by the county's unlimited ad valorem tax pledge. Concurrently Moody's has affirmed the Aa1 rating to the county's parity bonds, affecting $55.4 million of total debt, post sale. Proceeds of the bonds will fund several capital projects, with the majority for highway improvements.

RATINGS RATIONALE
The Aa1 rating reflects ongoing economic development within the county that is expected to spur continued tax base expansion, albeit at a slower rate than in recent years and a manageable debt levels.

Effective January 1, 2012, all local governments in New York State will be subject to a property tax cap which limits levy increases to 2% or the rate of inflation, whichever is lower. While school district debt has been exempted from the cap, debt has not been exempted for all other local governments. Moody's will continue to treat all general obligation debt issued in New York as an unlimited tax pledge through the end of the year. We continue to research what the impact of the new property tax cap will be on debt issued by nonschool districts after it goes into effect next year. For more information regarding the property tax cap please reference the Special Comment "New York State's Property Tax Cap will Further Pressure Local Government Finances; School District's Most Impacted" released July 5, 2011.

STRENGTHS
-Substantial, diverse taxbase
-Relatively low unemployment rate

CHALLENGES
-Slowed taxbase growth limits revenue growth.
-County budgets have been balanced using reserves


WHAT COULD MAKE THE RATING GO UP
-- Maintenance of financial flexibility in line with higher rating categories
-- Expansion of tax base and demographic profile to levels consistent with higher rating categories

WHAT COULD MAKE THE RATING GO DOWN
-- Protracted structural budget imbalance
-- Depletion of General Fund balance
-- Deterioration of the county's tax base and demographic profile
-- Strain on General Fund from Nursing Home operations


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Schenectady events looking alot like Stockton CA lately although on a smaller scale.

Not paying bills
Deficits- Large Fire and Police Budgets
Home Values plummeting
Attempted downtown public finaced revitalization projects
Waterway projects
Rezoning
New Housing Projects
Unfunded/Unreported Retiree Health Insurance
Crime Increasing

NEW: Municipal Bankruptcy Stalks Stockton

FEB. 27, 2012

By WAYNE LUSVARDI

Stockton, California’s 13th largest city, may be moving from “Fat City” to “Mudville.” Both were former historical names for Stockton.  “BK” is shorthand for bankruptcy.

On Feb. 23, Stockton City Manager Robert Deis asked the city council to suspend municipal bond payments, possibly on as much as $341 million of bonds.  If the City Council concurs with the recommendation, this will start a process under California’s new municipal bankruptcy law, AB 506.  This new law requires a confidential neutral evaluation of bankruptcy and alternative dispute resolution methods to delay and prevent bankruptcy.

Bond Rating Downgrade
Following the city manager’s announcement on Feb. 24, Moody’s Investor’s Service downgraded Stockton’s bonds as shown below:

Stockton Bond Downgrade

Type Bond FROM TO


Description
Issuer Rating Ba2 Baa1 Speculative, high credit risk
Pension Bonds and Lease Bonds Ba3 B1 Speculative, high credit risk
Water Enterprise Bonds A3 Aa3 Medium grade, low credit risk
Moody’s Long-Term Rating Definitions:
http://www.rbcpa.com/Moody%27s_ratings_and_definitions.pdf

Moody’s defines a B bond rating as a 35 percent chance of loss over a 20-year period.

The average person on the street probably wouldn’t understand a bond downgrade from Ba3 to B1.  But they probably would understand that their home value might drop below even what was being considered “the bottom.”

Home Price Could Fall Below ‘Bottom’
In April 2011, local real estate investor Cary Fopiano was quoted in USA Today: “Home prices are about as low as they can go” in Stockton.  Who could have guessed that, after Stockton home values fell an unbelievable 65 percent since 2006, they could be prone to fall further due to the possibility of bankruptcy?

The Zillow.com online home value tracking service indicates Stockton’s home value index dropped from about $335,000 in 2007 to $119,700 in December 2011. Home values have dropped about one third over all of California. But they have dropped by two thirds in Stockton.

Stockton Home Price Index Drop — Zillow.com

January 2007 December 2011 Percent Change
$335,000 $119,700 Minus 65 percent

If the Stockton City Council moves to file a bankruptcy action after the completion of the neutral bankruptcy study, then real estate brokers will have to start disclosing to prospective home buyers that the city was broke and could default on its bonds.

On October 21, 2011, the Wall Street Journal reported that Stockton was also struggling to continue to make payments on $87 million of redevelopment bonds issued in 2006.

Stockton had a reported operating budget deficit of $37 million, reflecting about 20 percent of its entire budget.  Police and fire department salaries were reported to be 82 percent of its budget.

But Stockton was once “Fat City” from the 1990’s to about 2006.

From ‘Mudville’ to ‘Fat City’
Stockton’s extensive network of surrounding waterways might have been the reason it was dubbed the name “Mudville” at one time.  But beginning in the 1990’s, it began downtown revitalization using redevelopment to buy and assemble land for public projects and re-zoning land for new housing projects.

The list of revitalization projects includes: Bob Hope Theater, Regal City Theatre Cinemas and IMAX, San Joaquin RTD Downtown Transit Center, Lexington Plaza Waterfront Hotel, Hotel Stockton, Stockton Arena, San Joaquin County Administration Building and Court House, Stockton minor league ballpark, Dean DeCarli Waterfront Square and Downtown Marina. As late as 2009, the city was considering the South Shore Housing Project, revamping the Robert J. Cabral Train Station neighborhood, erecting bridges across the Stockton Deep Water Channel and a new San Joaquin County Courthouse.

But those were the “fat years.”  Now Moody’s Analytics predicts home prices in the Stockton area won’t recover for another 20 years.  From “Fat City” back to “Mudville.”

‘No Joy in Mudville’
The Cultural Dictionary online defines the term “No Joy in Mudville” as a line from “Casey at the Bat,” a poem describing the reaction of the hometown crowd when their hero, Casey, struck out, losing the big game.  Stockton has been the biggest loser thus far at the game of public-sector real estate development in California.



Stockton, California, May Ask Bondholders to ‘Suffer,’ City Officials Say
By Alison Vekshin and Michael B. Marois - Feb 25, 2012 12:01 AM ET
Stockton (3654MF), California, may take the first steps toward becoming the most populous U.S. city to file for bankruptcy next week because of burdensome employee costs, excessive debt and bookkeeping errors that misrepresented accounts, city officials said yesterday.
The Stockton City Council will meet Feb. 28 to consider a type of mediation that allows creditors to participate, the first move toward a Chapter 9 bankruptcy filing under a new state law. The council will also weigh suspending some payments on long-term debt of about $702 million, according to a 2010 financial statement.
“Somebody has to suffer and in this case the city manager has decided it should be the bondholders who suffer,” Marc Levinson of the Sacramento-based law firm Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP, which represents the city, said at a news briefing at City Hall yesterday.
Stockton, a farming center about 80 miles (130 kilometers) east of San Francisco, has fought to avert bankruptcy by shrinking its payroll, including a quarter of the roughly 425- member police force. At 292,000, the city has more than twice as many residents as Vallejo, California, which became a national symbol for distressed municipal finance in 2008 when it sought protection from creditors.
Shrinking Current Budget
Stockton’s council will be asked to reduce the current budget by $15 million because of newly uncovered accounting errors and mismanagement that have left the city almost broke, City Manager Bob Deis told reporters yesterday. To keep the city solvent through June 30, the end of the fiscal year, the council will be asked to default on $2 million of debt payments.
“Our employees and the citizens of Stockton who receive city services have borne the entire brunt of our restructuring efforts so far and now it’s time for others to do the same,” Deis said in a report to the council. “We can’t ‘grow our way’ out of the problem and no amount of forward-looking financial planning will properly fix it.”
Deis said he wants to use the mediation process to work out a compromise with creditors such as bondholders and with labor unions representing city workers before Stockton needs to seek bankruptcy protection.
“This is all being done with the goal of getting to June 30,” Deis said. “It’s always best to negotiate and work out a settlement.”
Budget Deficit
Deis said the city is facing a $20 million deficit in the next fiscal year. Expanded retiree health insurance commitments in the 1990s have left the city with a looming $450 million unfunded liability.
“Next year, we expect to pay more for retiree health insurance than for our current employees,” Deis said, likening the promises to a “Ponzi scheme.”
State officials are monitoring the situation. “We haven’t talked to them about it, but where we could help, we would,” Governor Jerry Brown, a Democrat, said yesterday in an interview in Washington.
State Treasurer Bill Lockyer said the city’s financial troubles may be felt statewide.
“The reputational stain can bleed onto other local issuers and the state, and that can hurt taxpayers in the bond market,” he said in a statement. “So we hope a Chapter 9 filing is not the final outcome.”
‘Bad Message’
Telling bondholders they will suffer is “a bad message to send out to bond-land,” said Marilyn Cohen, president of Los Angeles-based Envision Capital Management Inc., which manages about $200 million in municipal debt.
“The whole idea has always been to preserve the bonds because one day we’re going to have to re-enter in the bond market,” Cohen said yesterday in a telephone interview.
The council will be asked to pay $175,000 to Management Partners Inc. of Cincinnati, a consulting firm hired to evaluate the city’s finances, for project management and technical assistance during the state-required mediation.
“The sustained recession has reduced revenues significantly,” Management Partners said in a report dated Feb. 23. “In the years prior to the recession, the city took on a large amount of debt in anticipation of ongoing growth that now exceeds the city’s ability to pay.”
“Compensation packages exceeded sustainable levels and the city assumed a significant liability for improved retiree health coverage without sufficient recurring revenues to cover growing costs,” the report said. “Prior fiscal management practices obscured problems.”
Moody’s Downgrade
Moody’s Investors Service yesterday downgraded Stockton’s rating to Ba2, two levels below investment grade, from Baa1. The city’s proposal to suspend general-obligation debt service and enter mediation with creditors “demonstrates significantly reduced willingness, if not ability” to pay bondholders, Moody’s said in a report. The decision affected about $341 million in debt.
Standard & Poor’s cut its rating to BB, two levels below investment grade, from A- and lowered the city’s credit outlook to negative.
News about Stockton didn’t affect the municipal bond market yesterday, which was quiet with “underlying firmness,” said Alan Schankel, director of fixed-income research at Janney Montgomery Scott LLC in Philadelphia.
‘Just Playing Chicken’
Schankel said he thinks Stockton might avoid filing for bankruptcy. “They’re just playing chicken again,” he said.
Stockton had the eighth-highest violent crime rate in the country in 2010; the second-highest foreclosure rate in the U.S., behind Las Vegas; and the eighth-highest unemployment, at 15.9 percent in December, almost double the national average.
Such factors helped earn Stockton the title of “most miserable city” in the U.S. twice in the past four years by Forbes.com, out of the 200 largest metropolitan statistical areas.
The city can expect to pay $20 million in legal fees if it pursues bankruptcy, Dale Fritchen, a member of Stockton’s City Council, said in a Feb. 23 telephone interview.
Legal Costs
“Municipal bankruptcy won’t just erase all your debt, so we are still going to have to make cuts to balance the budget and on top of those cuts come up with the $20 million extra for legal fees,” Fritchen said.
A state law backed by unions and passed last year in response to Vallejo’s bankruptcy requires cities to work with a “neutral evaluator” for at least 60 days before seeking bankruptcy court protection. The process gives creditors a right to participate. It can be bypassed if the city declares a fiscal emergency, according to the law.
Entering the 60-day evaluation period may cause a “run on the general fund” by vendors, said Lee R. Bogdanoff, a bankruptcy specialist at the Los Angeles law firm Klee, Tuchin, Bogdanoff & Stern LLP, which filed the biggest municipal U.S. bankruptcy on behalf of Jefferson County, Alabama.
Suppliers may demand cash on delivery, or require past bills to be paid immediately before continuing to do business with the city, Bogdanoff, who isn’t involved in Stockton’s situation, said yesterday in a telephone interview.


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SCHENECTADY
City, county hit tangle over delinquent tax bill

BY KATHLEEN MOORE Gazette Reporter

    It’s going to be more complicated than first thought to pay the budget-busting bill that the city owes the county.
    The City Council unanimously voted Monday to pay the county $1.5 million in delinquent taxes, as required by law, that property owners never paid.
    If the city pays the bill immediately, it would wipe out its reserves, leaving Schenectady without a cash flow cushion to make payroll while it waits for property owners to pay their taxes this year.
    Council President Denise Brucker thought county offi cials would agree to a payment plan over the course of the year. The city’s fi - nance personnel could meet with the county finance personnel, she said, and work out a deal.
    Turns out it won’t be that simple.
    County Attorney Chris Gardner said the issue will take serious negotiations, involving attorneys, finance officials and the county manager.
    City officials said they’re calling in legislators to help them explain why they need more time to pay. And the mayor is handling the negotiations personally.
    Gardner wouldn’t say whether he would ever agree to a payment plan. “We don’t negotiate in public,” he said.
    Gardner also said recently that he wasn’t going to sue the city to force it to pay up. City Council members were surprised to hear that, and Mayor Gary McCarthy said that Gardner was choosing his words carefully. Gardner had not threatened to sue, but another attorney representing the county on this matter made the statement, McCarthy noted. ..................>>>>......................>>>>.................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r01103&AppName=1
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"And the Mayor is handling negotiations personally"

That's not a good sign.
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SCHENECTADY
$1M county tax bill drains most of city’s savings
BY KATHLEEN MOORE Gazette Reporter
Reach Gazette reporter Kathleen Moore at 395-3120 or moore@dailygazette.com.

    Schenectady’s savings account is almost empty.
    On Wednesday, the city paid the entire delinquent tax bill owed to Schenectady County, draining its unrestricted savings account to nearly zero.
    After various offsets, the city gave the county $1 million. City offi cials estimate the city has about $75,000 left as a cushion for cash flow and any emergencies that hit in the next 10 months.
    City Council members were concerned about using all of the city’s savings and wanted to pay the county off in installments.
    They passed a resolution Monday agreeing to pay the overdue bill with the belief that the county would approve a delayed payment.
    Instead, Finance Commissioner Ismat Alam immediately cut a check for the full amount.
    She explained that the county wouldn’t accept partial payments.
    County Attorney Chris Gardner said simply: “We are not a bank. We don’t have lawful authority to lend money to folks.”
    That leaves the city in a bind. There is no immediate crisis, but the city could face an emergency at any time, and cash fl ow may become a problem at the end of the year.
    For many years, the city had so little savings that it had to borrow money every December to make payroll.
    The problem wasn’t that the city couldn’t afford to pay — it was that it simply ran out of cash while it waited to receive the next installment of city taxes. City property owners can pay in quarterly installments.
    Auditors recommended that the city sock away about 10 percent of its budget in unrestricted savings as a cushion against cash flow needs and emergencies. To meet that goal this year, with a $79.2 million budget, the city would have needed $7.9 million.
    Some council members want to cut the budget — even lay off employees — to restore the city’s savings. But Alam isn’t worried.
    “This year, our cash flow should be OK,” she said, adding that she doesn’t plan to urge the council to cut the budget to put $1 million back into savings.
    Director of Operations Bill Winkler was more blunt.
    “If we don’t pick it up with cuts now, we’ll have to pick it up when we need it,” he said. “We’ll just have to deal with it when the emergency happens.”
    Mayor Gary McCarthy noted that the city does have $15 million or more in restricted savings accounts for specifi c emergencies — including lawsuits, workers’ compensation claims and blizzards. That money can be used for the type of emergency specifi ed on the account, but he said the funds should provide a cash fl ow cushion, as well as protection against many of the city’s most common emergencies. .....................>>>>..................>>>>...................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r01400&AppName=1
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".......city does have $15 million or more in restricted savings accounts ....."


And of course, they will just raid those accounts at will

And of course, the dems will not ask the rich to pay taxes, they will jusdt do there usual thing---raise taxes on the financially struggling homewoners.

It's really not possitlbe to run that short of money overnight.   Most likely this is all coming out there is finally one person on the council who truly represents the taxpayers and residents as opposed to the politiclly connected and well-heeled.    


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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Oh, but remember, neither McC nor the dems on the council have issued any order mandating that the police and fire people live IN the city, instead they will just let them live far away and just increase the taxes on the financially struggling homeonwers to pay for the lavish expensive vehicles for those staff to take long pleasure drives to their homes far away from the city.  Just charge the cost to the financially struggling homeowners.    


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Question here............Did the city not know that they would 'eventually' pay the county back taxes? I'm sure they knew since they have attorneys to inform them........yes?

So if....and that is a big IF.......the city knew they would 'eventually' have to pay those taxes.....why didn't they make provisions for the debt??

From what the article states.......it's like this is the first the city even heard about it!


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Question here............Did the city not know that they would 'eventually' pay the county back taxes? I'm sure they knew since they have attorneys to inform them........yes?

So if....and that is a big IF.......the city knew they would 'eventually' have to pay those taxes.....why didn't they make provisions for the debt??

From what the article states.......it's like this is the first the city even heard about it!


This is why the prior years detailed balance sheet needs to be submitted with the proposed budget.


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EVIDENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DV and his fellow cheerleaders STILL REFUSE TO comment on the big mess the city dem leaders have gotten the city int now!!!!!!    Only $75,000 left?


City in a financial bind.   Go ahead DV, shake those pom poms to cheer for McC to raise the taxes on the homeonwers.   Praise him for exempting the millionaires from paying taxes.   Praise him for spending the city into just about being out of money


Property taxes in the city almost the highest in the whole country and the city only has a piddling amount of money left?  
Property taxes going up more
House values plummeting
People losing their homes to tax foreclosure
Give cops and fire the most expensive vehicles to take pleasure drives far outside the city
Give a pair of tax delinquents a quarter of a million dollars to buy their building - which resulted in a 100% profit for them when they didn't put one dang penny in the building in 10 years, and of course, didn't even turn the heat on and thus caused a million dollars in damage that the taxpayers will now foot the bill to pay to fix.
A year after stealing from the taxpyaers to pay the cost of demo on a burned out building, McC STILL has not gotten the money back from the property owner.
Over 3,000 EXISTING vacant residential units and they are stealing from the taxpayers to create more apartments with rental costs that will be more than twice what you can own a house for---and ownning a house you have an asset instead of just throwing money away.
Cutting back of necessary services to the residents
Hiking sewer fees
Hiking water fees
Charging homeonwers TWICE for trash pick up.

Oh, there's $15 milion in an "emergency fund"   And McC is quoted as indicating they can raid that pot.  

But don't ever make the millionaires downtown pay any taxes!!!!!!!!!    Oh, don't make the politicaly connected downtown pay taxes.





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