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Schenectady County topped Albany and Saratoga counties in terms of average weekly wages between June 2010
and June 2011: $937 vs. $931 and $804, respectively,

Going down every year ... this past year, significantly.


The wages quoted don't show a drop in weekly wages, but the respective wages in the three counties:
Schenectady $937
Albany $931
and Saratoga $804





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Let me know how much the wages in the counties were in 2011 July, August, Sept, Oct...etc. Let me know how these wages were in 2011 Jan, Feb, March ...but maybe those won't fit in with this story right?

Maybe cherry picking June 2010 - June 2011 isn't responsible reporting.

I'm all for finding the silver lining, but don't hand me a slanted story and tell me it's complete when it's obviously not.
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Schenectady County topped Albany and Saratoga counties in terms of average weekly wages between June 2010 and June 2011: $937 vs. $931 and $804,



When reading propaganda, you have to determine how the statistics are measured to get a complete understanding.  And here you see that the self employed are not included in this statistic...That may be the reason that the median annual household income in Saratoga County is about $15K more than in Schenectady County.  Or it could be that people earning their money in Schenectady are taking it to Saratoga County.
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Earnings
Data measure usual hourly and weekly earnings of wage and salary workers. All self-employed persons are excluded, regardless of whether their businesses are incorporated. Data represent earnings before taxes and other deductions and include any overtime pay, commissions, or tips usually received.

http://www.bls.gov/cps/earnings.htm


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When reading propaganda, you have to determine how the statistics are measured to get a complete understanding.  And here you see that the self employed are not included in this statistic...That may be the reason that the median annual household income in Saratoga County is about $15K more than in Schenectady County.  Or it could be that people earning their money in Schenectady are taking it to Saratoga County.
http://www.bls.gov/cps/earnings.htm


The subject is average "weekly wages".  Most self employed don't earn "wages".
Similarly ... net profit from sales... would not apply to most who are paid on a "weekly wages" basis.


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The subject is average "weekly wages".  Most self employed don't earn "wages".
Similarly ... net profit from sales... would not apply to most who are paid on a "weekly wages" basis.


That is correct...That's why I pointed it out, in case people interpret an increase in "weekly wages" and a direct reflection of total wealth in comparison to other counties. The fact Schenectady County has higher weekly wages than other counties could be because they have more blue collar workers that collect a weekly pay check.  


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Only a foolish Nayboob would suggest that a self- employed individual EARNS WAGES when in fact --- they operate on Capital Gains and UNEARNED income which as they readlily ADMIT - Is taxed at a much LOWER rate than the working stiff..


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Of course, the job, uh, "growth" in Schenectady went from

2010   63,700     to  in 2011   64,900.     An increase, yes, an increase of 1,200    

Now, Saratoga however went from

2010    75,911    to   in 2011    77,814     Saratoga had a better growth of employment than Schenectady   Because jobs increaed in Saratoga by 1,903.


Saratoiga has more employment than Schenectady too!!


So let's see how the cheerleaders claim Schenectady fared better than Saratoga.

And, uh, what is the typical house value in Saratoga and what is it in Schenectady


Just wait for the wage to plummet when all those 6 figure fat salaries of the state workers leave.    Of course, they don't like Schenectady because when the 7.5 horus is done, they SPEED OUT of the city!


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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Read the posts on this board.  According to most opinions here... Schenectady should be the bottom of New York State in
jobs... not among the top.
Nothing good ever happens in Schenectady... (even if the data suggests that Schdy is among the top, not the bottom).


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Read the posts on this board.  According to most opinions here... Schenectady should be the bottom of New York State in
jobs... not among the top.
Nothing good ever happens in Schenectady... (even if the data suggests that Schdy is among the top, not the bottom).


Onthis issue, I agree with you.

The nayboobs are just a bunch of ignorant assholes ... and they can quote me on that.


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Onthis issue, I agree with you.

The nayboobs are just a bunch of ignorant assholes ... and they can quote me on that.


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Keep drinking the coolaid......your Mama gave you.  


I prefer one bourbon, one scotch and one beer.


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I prefer one bourbon, one scotch and one beer.


Maybe when you grow a pear you can appreciate it more.
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Median Vs. Mean Salary Explanation




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Understanding the difference between median and mean is the most important factor in understanding the significant difference in median and mean salary variations.

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What is a Median?



A median is the middle number from a list of numbers listed from lowest to highest or highest to lowest. If there are two middle numbers, the two are added together and divided by two. This average becomes the median. An example is this group: 10, 39, 45, 50, 56, 67, which has a median of 47.5 or about 48.


What is a Mean?



A mean is simply an average. A group of numbers (order is not relevant) is added together and divided by the number of figures. The result is considered the mean. An example is this group: 10, 39, 45, 50, 56, 67, which has a mean of 44.5 or about 45.



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The Difference Between Median and Mean



The major difference between median and mean is the median's capacity to eliminate mean-altering outliers. In the previous examples, the number 10 would be considered an outlier because it is not close to the other numbers. If these numbers were the ages of individuals at a party and you were asked the approximate age of the party's attendees, you would be more likely to say 48 to 50 and not include the 10-year-old child in the grouping. The median is able to reduce outliers in large groupings whereas the mean is best for numbers without obvious outliers.


What to Expect from Mean Salary Averages



Salary averages that are configured by a mean most typically fall on the higher side of the actual average salary in a particular field because of a small number of people whose earnings far exceed the average earnings in the field (for example, a millionaire in the chef industry). Sometimes, however, especially in part-time or temporary-work fields the mean could sway the opposite direction because there are several people who earn minimal amounts (for example, $100 on a one-time project for the year).


What to Expect from Median Salary Averages



Median salary averages are better at weeding out high and lower outliers, and typically are more accurate when dealing with average salary expectations.


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Mean, Median, Mode, and Range

Mean, median, and mode are three kinds of "averages". There are many "averages" in statistics, but these are, I think, the three most common, and are certainly the three you are most likely to encounter in your pre-statistics courses, if the topic comes up at all.

The "mean" is the "average" you're used to, where you add up all the numbers and then divide by the number of numbers. The "median" is the "middle" value in the list of numbers. To find the median, your numbers have to be listed in numerical order, so you may have to rewrite your list first. The "mode" is the value that occurs most often. If no number is repeated, then there is no mode for the list.

The "range" is just the difference between the largest and smallest values.

Find the mean, median, mode, and range for the following list of values:
13, 18, 13, 14, 13, 16, 14, 21, 13

The mean is the usual average, so:

(13 + 18 + 13 + 14 + 13 + 16 + 14 + 21 + 13) ÷ 9 = 15

Note that the mean isn't a value from the original list. This is a common result. You should not assume that your mean will be one of your original numbers.

The median is the middle value, so I'll have to rewrite the list in order:

13, 13, 13, 13, 14, 14, 16, 18, 21

There are nine numbers in the list, so the middle one will be the (9 + 1) ÷ 2 = 10 ÷ 2 = 5th number:

13, 13, 13, 13, 14, 14, 16, 18, 21

So the median is 14.   Copyright © Elizabeth Stapel 2004-2011 All Rights Reserved

The mode is the number that is repeated more often than any other, so 13 is the mode.

The largest value in the list is 21, and the smallest is 13, so the range is 21 – 13 = 8.

mean: 15
median: 14
mode: 13
range: 8

Note: The formula for the place to find the median is "( [the number of data points] + 1) ÷ 2", but you don't have to use this formula. You can just count in from both ends of the list until you meet in the middle, if you prefer. Either way will work.

Find the mean, median, mode, and range for the following list of values:
1, 2, 4, 7

The mean is the usual average: (1 + 2 + 4 + 7) ÷ 4 = 14 ÷ 4 = 3.5

The median is the middle number. In this example, the numbers are already listed in numerical order, so I don't have to rewrite the list. But there is no "middle" number, because there are an even number of numbers. In this case, the median is the mean (the usual average) of the middle two values: (2 + 4) ÷ 2 = 6 ÷ 2 = 3

The mode is the number that is repeated most often, but all the numbers appear only once. Then there is no mode.

The largest value is 7, the smallest is 1, and their difference is 6, so the range is 6.

mean: 3.5
median: 3
mode: none
range: 6

The list values were whole numbers, but the mean was a decimal value. Getting a decimal value for the mean (or for the median, if you have an even number of data points) is perfectly okay; don't round your answers to try to match the format of the other numbers.

Find the mean, median, mode, and range for the following list of values:
8, 9, 10, 10, 10, 11, 11, 11, 12, 13

The mean is the usual average:

(8 + 9 + 10 + 10 + 10 + 11 + 11 + 11 + 12 + 13) ÷ 10 = 105 ÷ 10 = 10.5

The median is the middle value. In a list of ten values, that will be the (10 + 1) ÷ 2 = 5.5th value; that is, I'll need to average the fifth and sixth numbers to find the median:

(10 + 11) ÷ 2 = 21 ÷ 2 = 10.5

The mode is the number repeated most often. This list has two values that are repeated three times.

The largest value is 13 and the smallest is 8, so the range is 13 – 8 = 5.

mean: 10.5
median: 10.5
modes: 10 and 11
range: 5

While unusual, it can happen that two of the averages (the mean and the median, in this case) will have the same value.

Note: Depending on your text or your instructor, the above data set may be viewed as having no mode (rather than two modes), since no single solitary number was repeated more often than any other. I've seen books that go either way; there doesn't seem to be a consensus on the "right" definition of "mode" in the above case. So if you're not certain how you should answer the "mode" part of the above example, ask your instructor before the next test.

About the only hard part of finding the mean, median, and mode is keeping straight which "average" is which. Just remember the following:

mean: regular meaning of "average"
median: middle value
mode: most often

(In the above, I've used the term "average" rather casually. The technical definition of "average" is the arithmetic mean: adding up the values and then dividing by the number of values. Since you're probably more familiar with the concept of "average" than with "measure of central tendency", I used the more comfortable term.)


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A student has gotten the following grades on his tests: 87, 95, 76, and 88. He wants an 85 or better overall. What is the minimum grade he must get on the last test in order to achieve that average?
The unknown score is "x". Then the desired average is:

(87 + 95 + 76 + 88 + x) ÷ 5 = 85

Multiplying through by 5 and simplifying, I get:

87 + 95 + 76 + 88 + x = 425
                      346 + x = 425
                                x = 79

He needs to get at least a 79 on the last test.


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but if you earn your $$ here can you afford to live here and is the ambience worth the cost? what is the VALUE of your income? what is the VALUE of your taxes paid?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

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