a church is NOT ruled by it's members....according to all diety ruled religions....it is about the diety....not the plebs....so if the church is guided by the diety and you dont like the diety then LEAVE.....separation separation separation....

simple....

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a church is NOT ruled by it's members....according to all diety ruled religions....it is about the diety....not the plebs....so if the church is guided by the diety and you dont like the diety then LEAVE.....separation separation separation....

simple....

As I posted earlier... the Catholic parishioners are leaving in droves!  The number of active Catholic churches is
dwindling in poor, middle class and rich neighborhoods.  
There are no new young priests to take the place of those dying off.  
Unless the Church rethinks it's outdated agenda, it will go extinct.  
Dinosaurs ruled the earth for millions of years... the Catholic Church... only a few thousand.

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As I posted earlier... the Catholic parishioners are leaving in droves!  The number of active Catholic churches is
dwindling in poor, middle class and rich neighborhoods.  
There are no new young priests to take the place of those dying off.  
Unless the Church rethinks it's outdated agenda, it will go extinct.  
Dinosaurs ruled the earth for millions of years... the Catholic Church... only a few thousand.

then BA-BYE....to them....but until then it is church dogma/doctrine etc......those who want the stuff of the government shall have it because they left.....you cant love something that
you made change.....

would any one of us change our sig-other? to mold them into something that we like better?...that's not respect, that's not self discipline.....

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Surprise! Planned Parenthood CEO Top Advisor on Contraception Mandate
Katie Pavlich
News Editor, Townhall
Feb 19, 2012 10:39 AM EST

Guess who was a key player in pushing through the birth control mandate in ObamaCare? Planned Parenthood CEO Cecile Richards. According to reports, not only did Obama listen to Richards, but took her word over the suggestions his top advisers, including Vice President Joe Biden, then Chief of Staff Bill Daley and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius. According th ABC's Jake Tapper, there was an internal debate about the contraception mandate at the White House.

The debate within the White House on this issue was, sources say, heated, and President Obama was legitimately torn. Panetta wasn’t alone in his concerns. For months, Vice President Joe Biden and then-White House chief of staff Bill Daley argued internally against the rule, sources tell ABC News. Biden and Daley didn’t think the rule was right on either the policy or the politics, sources said. Joshua Dubois, head of the Office of Faith Based and Neighborhood Partnerships, also expressed concern.

The policy was wrong, the two Catholic men, Biden and Daley, argued, saying that the Obama administration couldn’t force religious charities to pay for something they think is a sin..............................>>>>...................>>>>..............................http://townhall.com/tipsheet/k.....ontraception_mandate

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Biden and Daley, argued, saying that the Obama administration couldn’t force religious charities
to pay for something they think is a sin

AND... the Obama Administration found a solution with the compromise that DOESN'T FORCE RELIGIOUS CHARITIES
TO PAY FOR SOMETHING THEY THINK IS A SIN!
Case closed... Problem solved!

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Catholic Women Must Speak Out
February 19, 2012|By MAURA CASEY, The Hartford Courant

My mother, a devout Catholic, had heart trouble before having six children in seven years during the 1950s. Exhaustion, combined with her weak heart, contributed to bouts of pneumonia and the removal of a lung.

Afterward, she tried to talk to my equally devout father about using birth control. It upset him.

"We'll go to hell," he said.

"I'm in hell now," she replied, and took a bus 75 miles to Rochester, N.Y., to obtain contraceptives. My parents had no more children. My mother made certain her four daughters had no qualms about using birth control. Still, I wonder whether having such a large family so quickly contributed to her death in her 50s.

Now I am in my 50s with two children of my own. Recently, American Catholic bishops ordered priests to read a letter at Mass denouncing as a violation of religious liberty a proposed federal birth control mandate. Although parish churches are exempt, religious institutions that accept federal funds (and employ many non-Catholics) would have had to make available free contraceptives through health coverage. The controversy forced compromise; the Obama administration passed the mandate onto insurance companies.

Yet the bishops remain unsatisfied. The use of birth control is against Catholic teaching, a sin and part of "a culture of death," as New York's Archbishop Timothy M. Dolan has said.

But the majority of Roman Catholic women — 98 percent according to one poll — have used birth control. Like me, many such women have received periodic fundraising letters from the church usually addressed to the woman of the house. They've enrolled their children in Catholic schools and watched their children participate in the sacraments.

Like me, many would consider themselves irresponsible mothers if they did not tell their children to ignore the church's teaching on birth control — particularly when using birth control makes abortions far less likely.

Of 100 Catholic women friends and acquaintances I could name, 99 use artificial birth control. But have we spoken out? No. Instead, we have spoken to each other,.......................>>>>........................>>>>..................http://articles.courant.com/20.....-in-catholic-schools

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Politics have clouded issue over contraceptives

    Archbishop Timothy Dolan has questioned if President Obama is anti-religious on his stand on the contraception issue. Why single out President Obama? There are 28 states that have the same or similar mandates, including California, Massachusetts and New York.
    In 2002 the New York State Senate passed the same mandate as the one in the original federal health care requiring religious organizations to provide contraceptive coverage. Religious organizations like St. Peter’s [Hospital] are required to provide that coverage. It was signed by then-Gov. George Pataki (a Roman Catholic). Nowhere did I hear Cardinal Edward Egan question Gov. Pataki’s belief in religion.
    President Obama’s compromise, that religious organizations will not be required to pay for contraceptive coverage, has turned into a political issue — one that the Republican Party and church will lose. This has gone to court in New York and California. Both cases have upheld the mandate, stating it would discriminate against the right of women to have health care if it were overturned.
    This is about health care for everyone and coverage for all women. This is not Obama’s war on religion, it’s a war on Obama and the use of contraceptives.
    As Sen. Rick Santorum said, “Contraceptives are evil.”

    JOHN BAIM
    Rotterdam

http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r00705&AppName=1

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http://www.breitbart.tv/priest-to-planned-parenthood-here-comes-the-catholic-church/

This is so funny!  Some Catholic Priest, Father John Hollowell, thinks that HE HAS A SAY whether a woman has
a baby or not!
HIS RELIGION tells him that ALL AMERICAN women must complete a pregnancy.  This self righteous cleric, who
will never have to raise a child himself, demands that his religion should take precedence over US law.

Christian Extremists... Muslim Extremist... not a lot of difference between them.

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Christian Extremists... Muslim Extremist... not a lot of difference between them.

Only a flame-throwing libertard, like yourself, would say something so stupid.

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Only a flame-throwing libertard, like yourself, would say something so stupid.

Did  you honestly expect anything different???? Only socialist liberals can jam their socialist beliefs down your throat whether you like it or not!!! Either you agree with exterminating the parasitic's of society as directed by their beloved leader, Margret Sanger followed by Hitler.................or your voice/opinions/beliefs will be exterminated!!!