I read a good article that opened my eyes. The American public reaction is disgust at the soldiers pissing on the dead Afghanis. Nobody is outraged about the dead Afghanis. I must say, I'm guilty.
I read a good article that opened my eyes. The American public reaction is disgust at the soldiers pissing on the dead Afghanis. Nobody is concerned about the dead Afghanis. I must say, I'm guilty.
because it's inferred and expected......hence the storm clouds of war......if we see clouds we say rain....if we see war we expect dead bodies.....the urinating is a red herring....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
The marines urination video doesn't show the real war crime The urination video does not shock me so much as the public's tolerance of these immoral wars that make criminals of marines
The video of US marines urinating on Afghan corpses does not shock me. Though their behavior is disgusting and unacceptable, I find the public's reaction to this video far more troubling. People are not outraged that there are dead Afghans; they are outraged at the manner in which the dead are treated. This is indicative of our culture's tolerance for war and war crimes – as long as they are done in a gentlemanly fashion.
During the second siege of Fallujah, blatant war crimes were committed, yet the corporate media reported them with indifference. The siege itself was a war crime, according to the International Committee of the Red Cross Summary of International Law, because indiscriminate tactics were used, constant care was not taken to protect the civilian population, proper distinction between civilians and combatants was not made, medical personnel and medical units were not protected, indiscriminate weapons were used, and recent research about the current health crisis in Fallujah suggests that poisonous weapons may have been used as well.
Many of these war crimes were reported by the corporate media, though they were not described as such. For example, the New York Times reported on 8 November 2004 that American forces "seized" the Fallujah general hospital. An incident that I witnessed, as did Paul Wood and Robbie Wright from the BBC, was when my unit fired grenades into a house until it collapsed – with full knowledge that there were two resistance fighters and a young boy (roughly 10 years old) inside. Paul Wood interviewed the lieutenant at the scene, and he acknowledged that they had killed the young boy. In both of these reports, war crimes and Geneva Conventions were never mentioned, and the façade of honorable conduct was preserved.
What did not make it into the news was my behavior in Fallujah and the behavior of others in my unit, which I am certain would have elicited outrage equal to that elicited by this video of the urinating marines. I believe that the second siege of Fallujah can correctly be characterised as an "atrocity-producing situation". Our false beliefs about who we were fighting, our dehumanisation of Fallujans, our desire to "see combat" (a cute euphemism) and to get a confirmed kill, and our longing for revenge for lost comrades against a faceless enemy all conspired to create a bloodthirsty and lawless atmosphere.
I witnessed marines stealing from the pockets of dead resistance fighters and looting houses. I've heard firsthand accounts of marines mutilating dead bodies, of a marine who murdered a civilian, and of a marine who slit a puppy's throat. As the days of the siege passed, we used increasingly indiscriminate and illegal tactics – like "reconnaissance by fire", which is when you fire into a house to see if anyone is inside. The violence, the hate and our distorted sense of morality made many of us sick, including myself. I stole a black ski mask out of someone's home, because I wanted to take it home as a trophy, as evidence that I had fought against the "terrorists".
My behavior and the behavior of others in my unit was despicable, as was the behavior of these marines urinating on corpses. But we shouldn't let ourselves be fooled that an immoral mission and immoral war could ever be conducted in an honorable manner. War crimes were implicit in the invasion and occupation of Iraq, and they are abundant in the continued occupation of Afghanistan.
This is just another attempt to demasculinize and discredit the United States military.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
This is just another attempt to demasculinize and discredit the United States military.
remember a female cobra has just as much venom and sharp teeth as a male cobra......there needn't be emasculation of the US military......we just listen to way to many snake charmers for their own show use......
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
This is more of a reflection of the American society than of these soldiers. How many people watched the video and didn't even bat an eye that there were dead human beings lying at our soldiers feet? It was the urinating on the dead bodies that was outrageous, not the killing or why we are STILL killing 10 years after 9-11.
As long as the American public is desensitize to images of death, there will be little chance of ending any of these wars.
This is more of a reflection of the American society than of these soldiers. How many people watched the video and didn't even bat an eye that there were dead human beings lying at our soldiers feet? It was the urinating on the dead bodies that was outrageous, not the killing or why we are STILL killing 10 years after 9-11.
As long as the American public is desensitize to images of death, there will be little chance of ending any of these wars.
it's a joke.....anyone feel 'safer'......think,,,,think,,,,,think,,,,,,,,nope....kids still missing every day,,,,car accidents every day,,,,thieving politicians every day,,,new taxes every day....robberies everyday murders everyday......so how is that 'safer' thing working out.....??? about as great as catching a plane to the small percentage of Americans that fly REGULARLY.....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
This is more of a reflection of the American society than of these soldiers. How many people watched the video and didn't even bat an eye that there were dead human beings lying at our soldiers feet? It was the urinating on the dead bodies that was outrageous, not the killing or why we are STILL killing 10 years after 9-11.
As long as the American public is desensitize to images of death, there will be little chance of ending any of these wars.
It's WAR cicero. Dead bodies are expected. And as long as our government continues to fabricate reasons to attack a sovereign nation....there will be dead bodies.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
OH WAIT.....WE HAVE THE PATRIOT ACT AND HOMELAND SECURITY.....WHY ARE WE OVER THERE WITH OUR MILITARY???? we could just as easily have our soldiers pissing on our dead bodies and call it 'safer'.....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Just a generation ago Americans had a threshold of how much death they were willing to accept. There were protests in the streets, and outrage over the Vietnam War. It seems as this generation can accept death committed in their name with little to no political resistance.
What we are doing in the middle east is the same as the Spanish did in South America. The Spanish civilized south america(inquisitions) for their gold. We are civilizing the Arabs for their oil. They either convert and accept, or be killed. Americans look at the Arabs as savages, just like the Spanish viewed the Aztecs.
Just a generation ago Americans had a threshold of how much death they were willing to accept. There were protests in the streets, and outrage over the Vietnam War. It seems as this generation can accept death committed in their name with little to no political resistance. .
It was the Jane Fonda's (hippies) of the country that were protesting! And it wasn't just about vietnam during that era. There was a 'created' social and cultural revolution going on! The slogan......MAKE LOVE NOT WAR!!! SEX DRUGS AND ROCK N ROLL!
Now these same left over hippies that were anti establishment are running the country. SCARY to say the least!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
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