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In a statement, Marine officials at the Pentagon said the service is working to verify the video's origin and
authenticity.
"The actions portrayed are not consistent with our core values and are not indicative of the character of
the Marines in our Corps," the statement reads. "This matter will be fully investigated."


We will see what comes out of this, but I will tell you, the Marines are considered the "wild bunch" of the US Military. My Son is in the USAF and my cousin is in the US army (19 years) and both will tell you if you want to stay out of trouble, stay away from the Marines. The reason the Japanese want us out of Okinawa is mainly due to Marines behavior... The vast majority of Marines are upstanding, but it just seems when there is trouble, a Marine or Marines are in the middle of it.


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but it just seems when there is trouble, a Marine or Marines are in the middle of it.


Kinda like Adu Dhabi huh?


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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2 of my uncles were US Marines, I was a Marine and my son was a Marine.  I have friends from my time in the Corps who
are private contractors in Afghanistan for the last two years.

Much of the Marine mission in Afghanistan is to "win the hearts and minds" of the locals.  Marine medical treatment of civilians
is part of the regular mission in Afghanistan.  When the locals see that you are treating their kids for disease or from
injuries, they begin to see the Marines as a force for good in their country.

One incident like this video, can wipe out a year of progress working with local Afghans.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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I would disagree.

These savages do unspeakable acts on a daily basis, and on a multitude of levels. Many are never reported. The few that are are are so toned down it's like it's bother for them even to report it.
"The body of a U.S contractor was found today outside Kabul, with his hands bound and decapitated." No pictures, no outrage, move along.

See a Marine pissing on a savage's body?
"This is CNN with 24hr. coverage of the 'Pee Pee Marine' scandal, where outrage is spreading like wildfire through the Muslim world!" And you'll have plenty of pictures. You'll have plenty of experts ranging from some 2-bit desk general to doctors that study the average size of a Marine's penis.

A better thing for these Marines to have done was to drag the bodies behind thier humvees to a hillside near the village where they base out of. Impaled the bodies on 10ft. pikes, doused the bodies with a mixture of pigs blood and gasoline and set them on fire for all the Taliban to see.



I agree and so does 'most everyone' with any common sense!!! This is WAR for God's sake!! Funny how our military is conditioned to be desensitized so they can stomach the theater of war!!! WAR IS UGLY!

It appears that military training should now consist of 'sensitivity training' now!! OMG!!!

As a side note.....there are many military folks who are now serving and originally planned to re-up.....but will no longer do that. THEY ARE DONE! There are also young folks who were looking to join the military....who have now changed their minds and will no longer pursue that direction. WHY? They don't see any support from their commander and chief.


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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As a side note.....there are many military folks who are now serving and originally planned to re-up.....but will no longer do that. THEY ARE DONE! There are also young folks who were looking to join the military....who have now changed their minds and will no longer pursue that direction. WHY? They don't see any support from their commander and chief.


When fact doesn't match the agenda... change the facts!  



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I AM EXTREMELY UPSET MYSELF ABOUT THIS OUTRAGE!

WHY IN GOD'S NAME WOULD THESE MARINES DO SOMETHING AS DUMB AND IRRESPONSIBLE AS PISSING ON THESE POOR DECEDENTS WHEN THEY COULD HAVE JUST AS EASILY DONE THE CORRECT THING AND THE RIGHT THING???? THEY COULD HAVE IMPRESSED ALL OF US AND TAKEN THE TIME, USING ALL THE SENSITIVITY THAT THEY POOR DECEASED MEN ARE ENTITLED TO AS IMPORTANT HUMANITARIANS- BY GENTLY SQUATTING AND TAKING LARGE DUMPS ON THEIR DEAD FACES! I THINK THEY NEED REBUKING FOR NOT TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THESE FINE GENTLEMEN WHO PASSED THE HONOR OF EATING AMERICAN SH!T AS THEY PASS INTO THE ARMS OF THEIR MOON GOD.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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I AM EXTREMELY UPSET MYSELF ABOUT THIS OUTRAGE!

WHY IN GOD'S NAME WOULD THESE MARINES DO SOMETHING AS DUMB AND IRRESPONSIBLE AS PISSING ON THESE POOR DECEDENTS WHEN THEY COULD HAVE JUST AS EASILY DONE THE CORRECT THING AND THE RIGHT THING???? THEY COULD HAVE IMPRESSED ALL OF US AND TAKEN THE TIME, USING ALL THE SENSITIVITY THAT THEY POOR DECEASED MEN ARE ENTITLED TO AS IMPORTANT HUMANITARIANS- BY GENTLY SQUATTING AND TAKING LARGE DUMPS ON THEIR DEAD FACES! I THINK THEY NEED REBUKING FOR NOT TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THESE FINE GENTLEMEN WHO PASSED THE HONOR OF EATING AMERICAN SH!T AS THEY PASS INTO THE ARMS OF THEIR MOON GOD.


WOW Graham gets it!!!  He would be a great recruiter for AlQaeda!


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2 of my uncles were US Marines, I was a Marine and my son was a Marine.  I have friends from my time in the Corps who
are private contractors in Afghanistan for the last two years.

Much of the Marine mission in Afghanistan is to "win the hearts and minds" of the locals.  Marine medical treatment of civilians
is part of the regular mission in Afghanistan.  When the locals see that you are treating their kids for disease or from
injuries, they begin to see the Marines as a force for good in their country.

One incident like this video, can wipe out a year of progress working with local Afghans.


Semper Fi Box....as a former Marine adn Viet Vet, I honestly get it and am pissed at what these few did. You know as well as I, that's not anything taught to us, and it has nothing to do with being a Marine...these are kids acting stupid, regardless of what branch of service they are in. If they wren't in uniform in a war zone, they would act the same way in civilian life.

And 55tbird....your information is wrong...Marines are not the wild crazies your friends have told you they are. I mean just because I snuck on to the Army base outside Danang and stole the base commander's jeep and stipped it for parts we needed....I woldn't categorize that as crazy!!!  Marines let off steam but no more or less than the other branches. My personal experince is that USAF have a cushy life; US Army are undertrained; US Navy...well since Marines are branch of the Navy, guess they are just as crazy as us.....
Of course, all of this said is MY PERSONAL OPINION, so apologies if anyone is upset by it.


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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I'm sorry.....I'd be pissin'.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I need to go to the bathroom.......where's a taliban???

Come on folks........Again......this was not TORTURE!! No waterboarding here!! They just pissed on dead men who are now in heaven screwing 70 virgins!!! The same muslim men who tried to kill them!! DUH!!!

THEY DON'T WANT US THERE......plain and simple. Leave the country to it's own and let them do as they please!! It is 'their' country after all!! Get our service men and women out of there and bring them home!!! Our service men/women have been degraded and demasulenized since the vietnam war!!! It's time to stop playing politics with our military!!

Our nephew, who is a marine, has been on two tours in afghanistan and iraq. He said that until someone has taken a bullet from one of these crazy muslims....they have no room to talk!! He said the same thing happened with vietnam. No one has a clue. The old saying....'walk a mile in my shoes'!

Good thing there weren't cell phone cameras during world war II........OMG!!!


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I'm sorry.....I'd be pissin'.....


Then I'd guess that you aren't a US Marine... to do so would dishonor yourself and your Corps.


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Our nephew, who is a marine, has been on two tours in afghanistan and iraq. He said that until someone has taken a bullet from one of these crazy muslims....they have no room to talk!! He said the same thing happened with vietnam. No one has a clue. The old saying....'walk a mile in my shoes'!


Sorry Bumble, but I say BS to your nephew on two counts.....taking a bullet, watching the guy next to you die; watching a land mine kill someone; watching a bouncing betty in Nam....none of that justifies what is purported to have happened here....we simply DO NOT LOWER OURSELVES TO THEIR LEVEL.  Second, your nephew was not in Nam, so he is mistaken......I was there and I can tell you that we simply DID NOT DO THAT TYPE OF THING...NONE OF US. We knew about the treatment of our POWS by the VC and it fueled us to fight harder and pay them back for what they were doing to our guys. Treating the VC prisoners with childish acts or even retaliation was never anything we even considered! We were more focused on staying alive and doing everything we could to stay safe and hope to get home in 1 piece.

Again, my comments are not intended to disrespect your nephew or you, simply the facts that I know


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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He said the same thing happened with vietnam. No one has a clue. The old saying....'walk a mile in my shoes'!

I served 13 months as a grunt in a line company in Vietnam in '66-'67.   So I guess you could say that I have walked
that mile.
If we stoop to the enemy's level, we are no better than they are.    



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I served 13 months as a grunt in a line company in Vietnam in '66-'67.   So I guess you could say that I have walked
that mile.
If we stoop to the enemy's level, we are no better than they are.    



Reading you were a "grunt" made me smile and borught back memories......trying to think what they call themselves today....probably not grunts.  I think the Corps was the only Military group where everyone had grunt as primary MOS regardless of what they might have for other duties. By the way, I was after you (70-71) but appreciate what everyone sacrificed, THEN and NOW.


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Why aren't you guys referring to yourselves as Marines instead of "former" Marines? What is the point of that?


As far as dead partisan terrorists and spies go? Fu(k em. Did Dresden increase recruiting for the SS?

Answer: swiftly kill each and every new recruit with no hesitation. Limited war is not war. Stop farting around. And if you are so upset then impeach Obama.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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