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for the record Johnson would hang around the Hess Station then respond to calls when sent.

and when the dust settled they could confirm several cases of him doing this.  less than five although it should never
happen.  

The Dispatchers were the only ones at the time with GPS. but them blowing the whistle on a police
officer would have been a very difficult thing for them to do.
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You know what would be different??

Where is the honesty and trusting nature of anyone these days....no you can't trust a cop...

If he stops, especially a woman, and they have doubts,....they have been told to keep driving, to the nearest police station...

Now, someone does that.....what would happen????    the cop would make up a story and the others would believe him???

You would be roughed up, to make it look like a resist, handcuffed, and manhandled???..and be a hostage until someone on

the outside saves you?>???.....

There is no reason why we should not trust the police????   that's my point...it seems there are more bad than good....so sad.
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stop making things up. who said it was an isolated incident?  I never said that.  Stop making things up.  


Your first response in this thread was this:
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How about we wait for the civil trial and not just take the work of the lawyer, certainly not a neutral party, before coming to a conclusion about the validity of this claim?


You defended the cop while dismissing the 16 year olds attorney's statements as bias.  My argument has been to point out a litany of examples of SPD transgressions that show a pattern of behavior by other SPD officer that would support the allegations of the 16 year old.  Though the allegation may not be true, and the actions of other officers don’t make this officer guilty, but the problem is, there have been so many past offenses that finding a jury to take the side of the police would be very difficult.  The department lacks credibility, integrity, and leadership.  The fact is,  a union labor boss is calling the shots.

SPD is an example of what happens when you let the rabble take the lead.


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Mobile Terminal - and you have added what intelligent points to this discussion?


I could ask you the same thing
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fThe Dispatchers were the only ones at the time with GPS. but them blowing the whistle on a police officer would have been a very difficult thing for them to do.


That was their JOB ... if it's difficult, step aside and let someone else in the position.  If they can't - or worse, are unwilling to do it, that's A PROBLEM!
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I started out by suggesting that the attorney is not a disinterested party, so it may be prudent to wait until all the facts come out.  That's not saying the officer is innocent or guilty it was merely a
reaction to people reacting as if what the attorney was an established fact.  I think that qualifies as a reasonable contribution.

If being a whistle blower was that easy the government would not have felt compelled to provide laws to protect whisteblowers against retribution.  
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I did not defend teh police officer.  IU said the attoirney was not unbiased and the same would apply to a PBA reproersentative arguing that the police officer was innocent.  

To say the facts are not out yet is not defending a police officer.  It is fairly easy to differentiate the two lines of reasoning.
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Cicero The union boss is calling the shots? It seems strange for a union boss to fire ten of his own bargaining unit members.
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whistle blowers.....hhhmmm.....whistle blowers......interesting term......

so whistle blowers need to exist....however, inside 'the law' is a tight squeeze....many many many factors working AGAINST truth.....just by the fact that the 'inside' of that machine runs the outcome of why it exists....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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