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Obama bucks Republicans by making unprecedented recess appointment
Breaks Democrats’ own rule from Bush administration

By Stephen Dinan
The Washington Times

Wednesday, January 4, 2012
Congressional officials said President Obama has used his recess appointment powers Wednesday to name a head for the controversial new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau in a move Republican lawmakers said amounted to an unconstitutional power grab.

Mr. Obama made the appointment of former Ohio Attorney General Richard Cordray even though the Senate, which has the power to confirm nominees, considers itself still in session.

But the White House argues Republican senators stonewalled the nominee for so long that Mr. Obama had no choice but to circumvent them.

In making the appointment, Mr. Obama rejected the precedent set by former President Clinton and the precedent Mr. Obama and his fellow Democrats set under President George W. Bush in 2007 and 2008.

“Although the Senate is not in recess, President Obama, in an unprecedented move, has arrogantly circumvented the American people,” said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, Kentucky Republican.

GOP House Speaker John A. Boehner called the move “an extraordinary and entirely unprecedented power grab by President Obama that defies centuries of practice and the legal advice of his own Justice Department.”
“The precedent that would be set by this cavalier action would have a devastating effect on the checks and balances that are enshrined in our Constitution,” the Ohio Republican said in a statement.
Administration officials told the Associated Press they anticipate the move may be challenged in court.
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According to reports from the Congressional Research Service, during their time in office:
President Ronald Reagan made 240 recess appointments,
President George H. W. Bush made 77 recess appointments,
President Bill Clinton made 140 recess appointments,
George W. Bush made 171.

President Barack Obama's first term has seen a paltry 28.  


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Breaks Democrats’ own rule from Bush administration
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In the Senate: Republicans have blocked 223 of President Obama’s 1,132 executive and judicial appointees...over 20%.
Republican senators have enforced a strict sixty-vote threshold for most nominations, and sometimes holds
are placed on nominees anyhow.
The continuing party of NO policy has left no choice for President Obama than to use recess appointments.
The republican policy hobbles crucial federal agencies and is yet another successful prong of the Republican war
against effective government.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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In the Senate: Republicans have blocked 223 of President Obama’s 1,132 executive and judicial appointees...over 20%.
Republican senators have enforced a strict sixty-vote threshold for most nominations, and sometimes holds
are placed on nominees anyhow.
The continuing party of NO policy has left no choice for President Obama than to use recess appointments.
The republican policy hobbles crucial federal agencies and is yet another successful prong of the Republican war
against effective government.



Funny, I didn't know Republican party members controlled the Senate - just the House.  And that's only for rhe past 12 months that Obama hasn't had a majority in both houses.
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Funny, I didn't know Republican party members controlled the Senate - just the House.  And that's only for rhe past 12 months that Obama hasn't had a majority in both houses.


Just goes to show ya MT,  that you are never too old to learn something new.
How it works... This is just one example from 2010:

Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., has placed a blanket hold on all executive nominations on the Senate calendar in an
effort to win concessions from the Obama administration and Pentagon on a variety of fronts affecting his home
state.
Reid spokeswoman Regan Lachapelle said Shelby is blocking more than 70 pending nominations. Reid can force
a vote on any nomination by filing cloture.
Because of the time required to vote on multiple nominations, the Senate processes most nominations by
unanimous consent. Any one senator can block any of those nominations by objecting to a unanimous consent
request to take it up. The nominations will remain stalled unless Reid files cloture.




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Lets just make obama a king!  This republic thing is waaaaaaay too messy.  We have no time to waste dealing with thatpesky house of representatives.  King Obama won the popular vote 3 years ago, how dare the Congress impede his agenda with checks and balances.  


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According to reports from the Congressional Research Service, during their time in office:
President Ronald Reagan made 240 recess appointments,
President George H. W. Bush made 77 recess appointments,
President Bill Clinton made 140 recess appointments,
George W. Bush made 171.

President Barack Obama's first term has seen a paltry 28.  


Senate isn't in recess.


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Lets just make obama a king!  This republic thing is waaaaaaay too messy.  We have no time to waste dealing with thatpesky house of representatives.  King Obama won the popular vote 3 years ago, how dare the Congress impede his agenda with checks and balances.  


Yea!  How dare they...
(once again, just for Cicero)
President Ronald Reagan made 240 recess appointments,
President George H. W. Bush made 77 recess appointments,
President Bill Clinton made 140 recess appointments,
George W. Bush made 171.

President Barack Obama's first term has seen a paltry 28.

Not King Reagan, King HW Bush, King Clinton or King GWB...
But King Obama... How Dare They
  


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Senate isn't in recess.


If the senate isn't in recess... then these aren't "Recess Appointments".  


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Consumer Financial Protection Bureau

The Act establishes a new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (the “CFPB”) within the Federal Reserve with a director appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate. The CFPB will function as a consumer “watchdog” and will be authorized to autonomously write rules for consumer protections governing all financial institutions offering consumer financial services or products, including most banks, mortgage lenders, credit-card and private student loan companies, as well as payday lenders. The CFPB will also have the authority to examine and enforce regulations for banks and credit unions with assets of over $10 billion and all mortgage-related businesses (including, among other things, lenders, servicers and mortgage brokers), payday lenders, student lenders and other non-bank financial companies that are large, such as debt collectors and consumer reporting agencies, with carve-outs for certain regulated entities, such as broker-dealers, insurance companies and auto dealers. Banks and credit unions with $10 billion in assets or less will also have to comply with the CFPB’s rules, but the smaller institutions’ enforcement and supervision will remain with their current regulators. State attorney generals (or the equivalent thereof) are given explicit authority to bring actions in federal or state court to enforce the rules of the CFPB. By creating the CFPB, the Act consolidates consumer protection responsibilities currently handled by the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, the OTS (which will be eliminated by the Act), the FDIC, the Federal Reserve, the National Credit Union Administration and the Federal Trade Commission. The CFPB will also oversee the enforcement of federal laws intended to ensure the fair, equitable and nondiscriminatory access to credit for individuals and communities.
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If the senate isn't in recess... then these aren't "Recess Appointments".  


Exactly, they were king Obama appointments.


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Exactly, they were king Obama appointments.


If the Senate is in session then the Obama appointment isn't binding... so the appointment will still go to the Senate.
But of course if you're wrong and the Senate is on the Holiday Break... then the appointment stands.

My Senate Calendar for the 112th Congress, 2nd Session, starts  January 6, 2012.
Cicero must be going by the US Senate Mayan Calendar  



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The Senate has purposely convened every 3 days to prevent the recess appointments by the President. The Senate must not be in session for 3 days in order for the President to make a recess appointment and by an agreement between the Dems and GWB they agreed to honor that arrangement and Obama went back on his own parties agreement. During the Clinton administration there was a court ruling saying that 3 days was the minimum number of days for the Senate to be out b4 a recess appointment can be made.
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