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Box A Rox
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WIC is the 'guilt bandaid' for the lack of baby-daddy......and stability......

does your conscience bother you????


WIC is the solution for lack of good nutrition and health care.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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The problem is the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT not all government.  You continue to distort my position.  It is the MASSIVE Federal Government that I take issue with.  I'm fine with a local police department, or local and state taxes paying for roads.  


Your words:

First, how do you know this stuff? Second, all government programs cost the taxpayer.  You are of the collectivist mindset.  You believe YOURS and MY individual health and prosperity is second to the health and prosperity of the collective state.  WIC program does not save ME money on MY healthcare.  It takes the fruits of MY labor and redistributes it to those they have made dependent on government programs.  
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Oh, great, a study conducted by a government agency that justify a government program.


Cicero complains about BIG GOVT, but the only corruption that he seems to have a problem with today, is Federal
Corruption.  
~ " I'm fine with a local police department, or local and state taxes paying for roads." ~
Local police corruption (Schdy) or corruption involving NY roads seems to be OK with CIC.


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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~ " I'm fine with a local police department, or local and state taxes paying for roads." ~
Local police corruption (Schdy) or corruption involving NY roads seems to be OK with CIC.



There is going to be corruption in every system.  But it is much more manageable and correctable at a local level.  The question is - if there are corrupt leaders that come to power, how many people will the corruption affect?  I'm pretty sure the corruption in Schenectady PD doesn't affect the Syracuse residents.  But the corruption in Washington DC and greed in Washington DC, and Freddie and Fannie, and the Wall St Bailouts HURT EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN.

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. I believe is a pretty accurate statement.  That is why we are a republic, to prevent a large central federal government didn't become so large and corrupted to affect every citizen in every state.    


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Instead of having one Federal program for the entire USA, each state will have a program.  Instead of one director and
50 staff, each state will have one director and a dozen staff.

Instead of one standard... for example, EPA water quality assurance... there will be 50 standards, each different and each
regulated differently.  Water in a stream that runs through NY Vermont and Mass will be subject to three standards, all
different.  A stream polluter in Vermont might not be subject to Vermont standards, but will be sued by polluting in MA and
NY.
Ron Paul Land will no longer be the UNITED STATES of America, but a collection of warring fiefdoms.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Instead of having one Federal program for the entire USA, each state will have a program.  Instead of one director and
50 staff, each state will have one director and a dozen staff.

Instead of one standard... for example, EPA water quality assurance... there will be 50 standards, each different and each
regulated differently.  Water in a stream that runs through NY Vermont and Mass will be subject to three standards, all
different.  A stream polluter in Vermont might not be subject to Vermont standards, but will be sued by polluting in MA and
NY.
Ron Paul Land will no longer be the UNITED STATES of America, but a collection of warring fiefdoms.


Wow.   Where do you come up with this stuff?  The federal government did a very good job ingraining fear and catastrophic scenerio's into your conscience.  The Rhine river goes through Switzerland, Germany, and the Netherlands, how do they manage?   It must be chaos...How do we regulate the Canadian rivers that flow into the US?  It's impossible!  And they say Ron Paul's crazy.  



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Instead of having one Federal program for the entire USA, each state will have a program.  Instead of one director and
50 staff, each state will have one director and a dozen staff.

Instead of one standard... for example, EPA water quality assurance... there will be 50 standards, each different and each
regulated differently.  Water in a stream that runs through NY Vermont and Mass will be subject to three standards, all
different.  A stream polluter in Vermont might not be subject to Vermont standards, but will be sued by polluting in MA and
NY.
Ron Paul Land will no longer be the UNITED STATES of America, but a collection of warring fiefdoms.


Actually, from what I understand, it was another  President who misstated, creating what we currently know as "The United States of America."  Until that time, we were known as These United States of America.  That President was President Abraham Lincoln.  The Republican Party may not have always been right, but they were generally closer to right than the others.


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Actually, from what I understand, it was another  President who misstated, creating what we currently know as "The United States of America."  Until that time, we were known as These United States of America.  That President was President Abraham Lincoln.  The Republican Party may not have always been right, but they were generally closer to right than the others.


Lincoln was America's first tyrant.  Americans have been taught America fought in a "civil war", which it wasn't.  Civil wars are two factions fighting for control of the government of a nation.  Lincoln declared war against State that did not want war but secession from the union, which was written in the Constitution

America has a history of celebrating the greatest tyrants that flagrantly usurp the Constitution.


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WIC is the solution for lack of good nutrition and health care.  


it's a podium puck and a feel-good drug for the penile controlled government

it's the 'dirty little' public secret and the other option to abortion.......it aint no oasis......it's salve for the conscience

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In a country that finishes 46th in Infant Mortality, the USA has a long way to go to raise our youngest citizens.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Wow.   Where do you come up with this stuff?  The federal government did a very good job ingraining fear and catastrophic scenerio's into your conscience.  The Rhine river goes through Switzerland, Germany, and the Netherlands, how do they manage?   It must be chaos...How do we regulate the Canadian rivers that flow into the US?  It's impossible!  And they say Ron Paul's crazy.  

You post about states as if they were countries.  It appears that I was right... you do want the UNITED STATES of
America to be a collection of warring fiefdoms, each with duplicate govt agencies.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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You post about states as if they were countries.  It appears that I was right... you do want the UNITED STATES of
America to be a collection of warring fiefdoms, each with duplicate govt agencies.


That's if I agreed with your fallacious argument that American states would be warring without the EPA.  The point to my previous post was, there are NATIONS that share waterways AND THEY ARE NOT WARRING!!  Why do you assume the states that share a common heritage, language, and culture would war without the EPA?  Your argument is absolutely insane.  This is just another post that shows your contempt toward your fellow Americans.  


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