If you buy into the propaganda... I'm sure it all makes sense.  
To the rest of us... it's mostly BS.  

Yeah...NYS operates with 1 $9 Billion budget deficit.

The real propaganda is convincing people that a $9 billion budget deficit doesn't mean anything.

Ah huh,
The real kicker is they can do this without an deficit, its been posted here before but you can see the whole CAFR thing.
You don't even have to buy into this , but you do have to" buy" into central government and fractional resrve banking.
Free market needs no propganda, it is Power
Central government and fractional reserve is not power but force.
Power exists ,alone , power is energy
Power does not need force, Power does no harm.
Force does harm.
Big government controlled by fractional resrve banking is force.
When people remove their own God givern Power from the 'system' it will evaporate like this mornings fog.
The force know the people are waking up.
An really the people are not waking up of themselves from hundreds of years of pogramming, but the Spirit of God is moving within.
It is he who is waking the people up to Liberty and responsibility.
This is the whole reason for the polarization of society.
The force knows he is losing power,
Ya know how the church talks about the 2cnd coming of Christ/
Well He aint no image gonna come down from the sky and Christ was not his last name.
The 2cnd coming is out from amoung us.
its not about whos gonna run the government, but who is gonna govern them selves.
We are approaching the end of an age not the end of the world.
we have been in the age of the pices fish ( the symbol of the church and external rules) for a couple thousand years or so not sure on the exact time.
we are entering into  the aquarian age,
the man with the pitcher of water.
Rememebr Jesus told his friends when they got into town to follow the man with the pitcher of water.
Yeah the mayans had clues as do we all have clues.
Listen to your own clues and inner promtings we are not crazy and in need of prozac as the medical industry want us to swallow.
Sory gues i got off topic.
But ya gotta boil these things down to the elements.

You are spot on ditcher!!! The signs are EVERYWHERE!!

Quoted from Box A Rox

If you buy into the propaganda... I'm sure it all makes sense.  
To the rest of us... it's mostly BS.  

Come on box,
I agree that many times when things do not make sense we tend to dismiss it with a negative tone.
I have been guilty of it myself .
Like say your car door gets froze shut and its 9 below zero on a winter night and I say stupid door, damn thing, what a piece of junk.
But its not the door handle is stupid, its just froze... water got in it and it froze.
No conspiracy, no demons or gremilns, just frozen water.
So check out the Austrians and see if it don't make sense.
It fine if you dis agree and would prefer a more managed market but in a free world there has to be options.
You don't have to bolster your position by calling other views propoganda and B.S. that only weakens your position.
And When you have to use the plural terminology us who are the us you are speaking for?
Im only speakin fer myself, i may be a minority, but we both have the same liberty as long as i dont try to force my will on you there is no trouble.

This is the trouble with big central government , ya just can not force billions of people to do the same thing at the same time all the time.
We do not all believe the same specific things.

Take the "abortion issue" for example,
some say it is murder ,some say it is removing a growth.
Fine, do it if you want and dont do it if you dont want.
But no one has the right to force the other to do or not to do.
But ahh enter Mr. government divide the people, force one half to pay for something that holds a deep heart felt belief that it is murder.
They make it all a mess, another example of how government promote chaos division and strife.
It does this because it thrives on the energy of the people, converting our very life into the goldman calf  to use against us,
It takes our life from us and loans it back to us at intrest.
It must keep us fighting in order that we take from one and eachother to pay the intrest.
Clever dudes they are.
I personaly am of the belief that it is murder so I would not ever participaite in it.
I also would never attempt to force you to not have one , sure I would try to talk yuo out of it... maybe, but thats it.

Quoted from ditcher

I personaly am of the belief that it is murder so I would not ever participaite in it.
I also would never attempt to force you to not have one , sure I would try to talk yuo out of it... maybe, but thats it.

By making abortion illegal, Ron Paul will FORCE A WOMAN TO COMPLETE A PREGNANCY,
or
FORCE HER TO BE A CRIMINAL WHEN SHE GETS AN ILLEGAL ABORTION.

A vote for Paul is a vote for the return of back alley abortions.

Quoted from Box A Rox

By making abortion illegal, Ron Paul will FORCE A WOMAN TO COMPLETE A PREGNANCY,
or
FORCE HER TO BE A CRIMINAL WHEN SHE GETS AN ILLEGAL ABORTION.

A vote for Paul is a vote for the return of back alley abortions.

Wow!  You really beleive this sh*t.  

If Ron Paul becomes president, he will decriminalize drugs, and it will force American children to take drugs and they will become heroin addicts.

If Ron Paul becomes president, his foreign policy will encourage the Iranians to come to America and detonate nuclear weapons, and they will destroy Israel.

If Ron Paul becomes president, he will end the federal department of education, and your children will starve because there will be no school lunch programs and they will become illiterate because they will have no books.

SCARE SCARE SCARE...Come on Box, I though you didn't subscribe to politics of fear?

I dont think he wants to make it illegal it want government out of it all together.
I dont want to make it il legal I jsut want the same freedom of choice to not participate or pay for it.
Are women not smart enough to not go have a "back alley abortion".
I think they are smart and able to make good choices when it comee to medical care.
Abortion is not the issue choice is if you choose it you should be able to get it.
If you choose not to you should be able to not be forced into paying for something you believe is  murder.
That is the crux of the bisquit, is it murder or not.
Its your chioce to believe what you want but not force others to go against what they believe.
If A doctor syas yes he will then he should ,if adoctor say no he cant he should be free not too.
It is really this simple.
But We have the government meddling causing strife amoung the people.

Quoted from ditcher

If you choose not to you should be able to not be forced into paying for something you believe is  murder.
That is the crux of the bisquit, is it murder or not.
Its your chioce to believe what you want but not force others to go against what they believe.
If A doctor syas yes he will then he should ,if adoctor say no he cant he should be free not too.
It is really this simple.
But We have the government meddling causing strife amoung the people.

So you would support abortion as long as you (or taxpayers) are not forced to pay for it?
So do I.

LIBERTY

Quoted from Box A Rox

So you would support abortion as long as you (or taxpayers) are not forced to pay for it?
So do I.

oh no i do not support it but i would not deny you the oppotunity to take out your own offspring.

Quoted from ditcher

oh no i do not support it but i would not deny you the oppotunity to take out your own offspring.