Flood victims to sue state, NYC Canal Corp., Gilboa Dam oversight blamed BY JUSTIN MASON Gazette Reporter
More than two-thirds of the Rotterdam Junction homeowners fl ooded out during Tropical Storm Irene filed separate legal notices against the state and New York City this week, claiming both could have done more to prevent damage to their residences. About 60 homeowners — representing 88 Rotterdam Junction residents altogether — began a claim against the New York State Thruway Authority in its capacity of overseeing the state Canal Corporation. The same residents fi led a notice of claim against New York City, which oversees its Department of Environmental Protection. In both cases, the notices are precursors to an actual lawsuit being filed. Cory Dalmata, one of the attorneys representing the residents, said the notices were filed to allow the residents more time to gather information for a claim, since the statute of limitations for both suits expires Monday. “But it is our intention to continue moving forward,” he said Friday. The claim against the state Canal Corporation blames it for not properly maintaining the Erie Canal system in a way that could have mitigated the level of destruction in the Main Street neighborhood. Dalmata, who works for the DeLorenzo law firm of Schenectady, said studies done in the aftermath of the flooding in June 2006 outlined measures that could prevent future flooding, but none of those were ever implemented before the late August storm struck. “The state might be partly liable for this — the Thruway Authority and Canal Corporation — in terms of the maintenance of the canal and general upkeep of it,” he said. The notice against New York City cites its oversight of the Gilboa Dam, which had a 200-foot-long temporary bulkhead fail on the day of the storm. The bulkhead was built to facilitate a $350 million rehabilitation project at the dam, but was breached by the fl oodwaters. Dalmata said the breach caused a sudden rise in the level of the Schoharie Creek and eventually the Mohawk River. He said this sudden inundation contributed to the fl ood damage in Rotterdam Junction. “When that breach happened, all of a sudden you have a giant amount of water that’s being released into the Schoharie Creek and subsequently into the Mohawk,” he said. “They’re liable for that.” A spokesman for the state declined to comment on the claim. Calls to New York City offi cials were not returned Friday. .........................>>>>.........................>>>>.....................................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r00101&AppName=1
Water Authority: Canal Corp ignores settlement offer, court intervention necessary
Story Created: May 19, 2010 at 3:17 PM EST ( Story Updated: May 19, 2010 at 3:19 PM EST )
ALBANY, N.Y. - Mohawk Valley Water Authority officials today announced two actions regarding years of water level disputes with the New York State Canal Corporation. Officials stated that a settlement offer extended to Canal Corp on April 28 has been ignored, and consequently, the Authority has deemed it necessary to file a motion to intervene in Erie Boulevard Hydropower’s Court of Claims action against New York State, the NYS Thruway Authority, and the NYS Canal Corporation.
MVWA Settlement Offer
In its April 28, 2010 settlement letter to Canal Corporation the MVWA offered these terms to try to resolve the litigation:
MVWA would indemnify the State for any damages recovered by Erie in connection with Erie’s litigation against the State.
The State/Canal Corporation would agree to deviate from the Operating Diagram, when necessary, to preserve reservoir levels.
MVWA would pay the State/Canal Corporation 2% of the MVWA’s cost per gallon charged for amounts withdrawn above 26 MGD (40.3 cfs) on those days when the inflow drops below 335 cfs during the Canal season.
MVWA would receive agreement from State/Canal Corporation to permit withdrawal of up to 43 MGD (66.65 cfs) if and when requested by MVWA in the future.
At such time as the MVWA begins withdrawing 40.3 cfs (~ 26 MGD), it would be willing to deposit into escrow at the beginning of each Canal season: $20,000 if withdrawals are anticipated to peak at 50 cfs (~32 MGD); $30,000 if withdrawals are anticipated to peak at 60 cfs (~39 MGD); and $45,000 if withdrawals are anticipated to peak at 66 cfs (~43 MGD) with the amount subject to reconciliation 30 days after the close of the Canal season. For additional water needed in excess of 43 MGD (66.65 cfs), up to the maximum 48.5 MGD (75 cfs), the parties would negotiate a fair price for the extra water to be taken.
This offer was extended with a request to respond by May 7, 2010. Receiving no response to the settlement offer, MVWA on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 filed a motion to intervene in Erie Hydropower’s NYS Court of Claims action against NYS, NYS Thruway and NYS Canal Corporation.
“MVWA has tried numerous times since 2004 to settle this dispute triggered by actions of the NYS Canal Corporation and Erie Hydropower,” stated Patrick J. Becher, MVWA’s Executive Director. “This latest failure to cooperate leaves us with no alternative but to again seek legal recourse.”
Motion to Intervene
MVWA’s motion to intervene relates to the October 21, 2009 claim filed by Erie Hydropower against the State, Thruway Authority, and Canal Corporation in the Court of Claims. That claim alleges a breach of the 1921 Agreement between Erie’s predecessor, Utica Gas & Electric (UG&E), and the State, arising out of Canal Corp’s September 2007 reduction of the release rate from Hinckley Reservoir lower than that called for by the Operating Diagram.
According to MVWA’s Becher, this situation was caused by Canal Corporation’s massive and unprecedented over-release of more than 2 billion gallons of water during the summer of 2007, and which caused a regional water emergency that threatened water supplies to 130,000 residential and business customers of the Mohawk Valley Water Authority. “This situation had never occurred before because there was a standard practice of adjusting releases so the water supply would not be jeopardized, in accordance with decades of reservoir management by the New York Power Authority (NYPA),” said Becher.
Becher said Canal Corp now takes the position that reservoir releases must be set in strict accordance with the 1921 Agreement’s Operating Diagram, regardless of hydrological conditions. This runs counter to the decades-old practice of preserving the water levels, when necessary, to protect MVWA’s water supply, he said.
“The MVWA’s legal actions are absolutely necessary and in fact, critical to preserving the MVWA’s water supply going forward”, stated Elis J. DeLia, Mohawk Valley Water Authority Board Chairman. “As a result of this state/private company relationship, Hinckley Reservoir is being operated to maximize the profits of a foreign-owned power company at the direct expense of the public water supply. This includes the state permitting Erie to benefit from any over-releases when there is excess water, yet requiring compensation when there is insufficient water to guarantee MVWA’s water supply.”
John Murad, of Hancock & Estabrook, MVWA Counsel, said that there are a variety of reasons that the MVWA needs to intervene in the Court of Claims action:
The issues being litigated in the Court of Claims action will have a direct impact on the MVWA’s 130,000 customers, including the interpretation of the 1921 agreement between the State defendants and Erie, which involves the historic recognition of the MVWA’s right to water from Hinckley Reservoir;
The State defendant’s have demanded that the MVWA defend the Court of Claims action or indemnify them against any damages awarded in the case;
The state defendants and Erie have previously entered into a “joint defense agreement,” in which their attorneys shared confidential information and communicated with each other’s witnesses in defense of the MVWA’s claims in litigation in Oneida County Supreme Court;
The State defendants and Erie have previously indicated that they interpret the 1921 agreement to not allow the decades old practice of allowing deviations from the Operating Diagram to preserve reservoir levels, which will injure the MVWA’s 130,000 customers;
The State defendants have recently begun operating the reservoir to not allow deviations from the Operating Diagram unless the MVWA pays Erie, a foreign owned power company, for the deviations, despite regular and enriching over-releases to the power company;
Erie’s alleged claims for damages is subject to the defense that the massive and unprecedented over release of water enriched Erie far more than its alleged damages; given Erie’s close relationship with the State defendants, MVWA is concerned that this defense will not be properly interposed or vigorously pursued;
“Given that joint defense agreement between the State Defendant and Erie, MVWA has no reason to believe that its interest in having a proper interpretation of the deviation exception—consistent with the parties’ long-standing practice—will be protected by the State,” noted MVWA Chairman DeLia.
Regional Appeal: Proper Reservoir Management and Good Public Policy
While there are diverse interests related to Hinckley Reservoir, many local Oneida and Herkimer County stakeholders agree that Canal Corp should be directed to return to the historic practice of deviations from the Operating Diagram during dry weather conditions.
A resolution recently was passed by the Oneida County Board of Legislators stating that deviations protect the interests of clean drinking water, environmental conservation, fisheries, wildlife habitat, power generation, economic development, tourism and recreational activities, and quality of life for Hinckley Reservoir residents and property owners.
“We firmly believe that all these interests can be balanced if the reservoir is managed properly,” stated Oneida County Executive Anthony J. Picente Jr. “However, from the first breach of protocol in 2007, the Canal Corporation has been uncooperative in their response to requests to honor the historic practices in the management of Hinckley Reservoir.” Picente continued, “If their actions since 2007 are a reflection of true intent, then the Canal Corp, the Governor’s office, and Erie Hydro need to place the health, safety and prosperity of our region at the top of their list.”
There also is strong support for a more comprehensive policy decision at the State level. Assemblywoman RoAnn Destito (D-Rome) of Oneida County, has been intricately involved in this issue. Among other actions, she facilitated a mediation discussion in the fall of 2004; initiated legislation to resolve the issue from a policy standpoint in 2005 and in 2006; and she coordinated a meeting of state agency officials in the fall of 2009 to once again press for a policy solution. “For the protection of the drinking water supply, I understand that MVWA must attempt to resolve past claims in a court of law,” stated Destito. “But for the long term, I firmly believe there should be a public policy solution that guarantees this region’s water supply for public health and economic development.”
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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Hey good for you guys, The flood could have been prevented as I have been informed (or misinformed) by letting the pre irene levels be lowered. Which would have avoided the disaster without causing any major problem except for the city folks may have had to cut down their water use temprorarily. But the folks from "The CITY" said... managing the level was not their concerrn.
Well MR City guy FCKYOU!!! (The level is our concern, we were living here before you dammed up the creek and deserve to keep our homes.
So where were our "public Servants " before this all went down. Oh thats right you sent in FEMA trailers that could not be deployed in a flood zone, effin brilliant man. NO..... Instead all you fkcrs were busy running for office and maintaining your particular version of Fascisim. Fillin the airwaves and countryside with your bu11sh1tslogans and empty platitudes.
Keeping your fairy tale government intact at all costs even to the point of betraying YOUR "CONSTITUANTS".
Thats the trouble with you ruler types you forget we are not constituents... we are people man.... and you make your living off of our labor. You contribute nothing ,you produce nothing.
Except maybe chaos.... Yah MR PArty leader where the eff were you??? At a meeting or filling out papers? Get the hell out of the way and let the people take care of themselves.
The people shoulda took over the dam, that is what the local militia used to be good for. Hey look, you know yer gonna end up in court, so you might as well take action, first save your but then let em take you to court. The "legal system" works one way when it comes for you it is swift and to the letter. When you go for it it becomes slowwwww and broken,,, procedureal and works under a thing called "color" of the law which means... it kinda like law ,only different... it works against you every step of the way. It's designed this way to protect you.
It makes no sense to watch your home swash down the creek while waiting for the "system" to work. Next time we will know.
ID support yooz folks in the Junction in this, If you need legal help, I would donate to the cause.
We didnt come this far to get this far. random 12 year old
A slave is someone that waits for someone else to free him. Ezra Pound
Water Authority: refinancing local debt saving $1.3 million
By WKTV News
Story Created: Aug 1, 2011 at 2:36 PM EST ( Story Updated: Aug 1, 2011 at 4:06 PM EST )
MOHAWK VALLEY, N.Y. - The New York State Environmental Facilities Corporation (EFC) has announced that refinancing of previous EFC bonds is saving the Upper Mohawk Valley Regional Water Finance Authority more than of $1.3 million, part of $28 million in savings for local drinking water and wastewater treatment projects across New York State.
EFC issued $191 million in "refunding" and new money bonds on July 21, the second time this year that EFC has taken advantage of low interest rates to refinance previous EFC bonds for local water-quality projects. Statewide, 167 local governments and public authorities are saving more than $28 million from the EFC refinancings, including eight in the Mohawk Valley that will save a combined $297,000. (A complete list of local savings is below.)
"Thanks to the borrowing power of EFC's triple-A rated bonds, New York State is able to provide this needed fiscal relief for the city of Utica and the other communities served by the Mohawk Valley water authority," said EFC President and CEO Matthew J. Driscoll. "EFC's latest bond issuance will also help local governments to complete important improvements to their drinking water or wastewater treatment systems; improving the environment, while also providing greater opportunities for economic growth in these communities."
EFC is refinancing $17,500,000 of debt from EFC bonds issued more than 10 years ago for improvements to the Southern Reservoir Site. The refinancings will save the authority $1,326,700.
EFC manages the largest and one of the most successful State Revolving Fund (SRF) programs in the nation, with assets in excess of $12 billion. EFC's tax-exempt bonds are rated triple-A by all three rating agencies (Fitch-AAA, Moody's-Aaa, S&P-AAA), enabling EFC to offer much lower interest rates than if local governments sold their own bonds.
In most cases, municipalities receive a 50 percent interest-rate subsidy from EFC through the state's Clean Water SRF (for wastewater treatment, landfills and other pollution control) or a 33.3 percent interest-rate subsidy for projects financed by the state's Drinking Water SRF. By strategically using federal and state grant monies as part of the security offered to investors, EFC has been able to double and triple the amount of project financing available from the SRF's.
The Mohawk Valley regional water system serves a population of approximately 130,000 in the eastern portion of Oneida County, including the City of Utica, the Towns of Trenton, Marcy, Deerfield, New Hartford, Whitestown, Kirkland and Westmoreland; the Villages of Oriskany, Whitesboro, Yorkville, New Hartford, New York Mills and Holland Patent. The regional water system also serves the western parts of the Towns of Frankfort and Schuyler in Herkimer County.
EFC jointly administers the Clean Water SRF and the Drinking Water SRF with the state Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) and the state Department of Health (DOH), respectively. Since the inception of the Clean Water SRF in 1990, the program has provided $12.2 billion in low-cost financing for over 1,400 water quality improvement projects. Since 1996, the Drinking Water SRF has provided $2.9 billion in reduced interest rate financing and grants for over 600 drinking water projects.
Joe Martens, Commissioner of the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) and Chairman of EFC's Board, said, "DEC is committed to partnering with EFC to lower costs for local governments while maintaining our commitment to protecting New York's waters."
"Clean and safe drinking water is essential to protecting public health," said State Health Commissioner Nirav R. Shah, M.D., M.P.H. "I am pleased that New York State is able to help municipalities undertake projects to upgrade their water systems and provide healthy drinking water to their residents."
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If anything these poor individuals are misguided and need to be suing Mr. Francis Del Gallo, Mr. Robert Godlewski and the insufferable James Longo for their misdeeds and inability to handle the job when this terrible and sad event occurred.. Del Gallo and his NNTP Nayboobs turned these unfortunate people's worlds inside out with their hurtfulness and lack of compassion during this crisis....
Special thanks should always be given to the First Responders and the County Legislative Team who worked beyond human endurance through the difficult hours to keep the situation from getting worse as they filled the vacuum of Del Gallo et al --- When I heard directly from those on the ground as this happened, I was ashamed of our Town Supervisor. I was in constant touch with people involved and my phone rung at all hours as they were diligent in handing me reports of the devastation and loss that occurred.
If I had been in town I might of hunted him down myself and offered him a stern rebuke and punch -- squarely placed on his fat nose. It is of no fault of the County, the State, the esteemed Director of the Canal Corporation, OR the City of New York for the tragedy that occurred. Although I greatly admire the Delorenzo Law firm, I assert that they are slightly off-base on this matter and I suggest they should look in our own back yard for the proper culprits.
The New York Power Authority is America's largest state power organization, with 17 generating facilities and more than 1,400 circuit-miles of transmission lines.
State and federal regulations shape NYPA's diverse customer base, which includes large and small businesses, not-for-profit organizations, community-owned electric systems and rural electric cooperatives and government entities.
Our low-cost power helps support nearly 370,000 jobs statewide while reducing public-sector costs.
We are also a national leader in promoting energy efficiency, the development of clean energy technologies and electric vehicles. Our energy services projects can be found throughout New York State, saving money and megawatts while helping reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
Consistent with our long-standing commitment to the environment, we are incorporating "sustainability" into our day-to-day activities and adding green building features at NYPA facilities around the state, including our visitors centers and at our main administrative offices in White Plains.
The Power Authority has a long and proud history. Governor Franklin D. Roosevelt established New York's model for public power through legislation signed in 1931.
Today, the Power Authority remains true to its mission, serving the public without the use of any tax revenue or state credit. We finance construction of our projects through bond sales to private investors, repaying bondholders with proceeds from our operations.
The pages of this website contain much more information about the Power Authority. If you have a specific question or request, you can write or call us.
Website - Headquarters New York Power Authority 123 Main Street, 10-B White Plains, N.Y. 10601-3170 (914) 287-4271 (leave message)
If anything these poor individuals are misguided and need to be suing Mr. Francis Del Gallo, Mr. Robert Godlewski and the insufferable James Longo for their misdeeds and inability to handle the job when this terrible and sad event occurred.. Del Gallo and his NNTP Nayboobs turned these unfortunate people's worlds inside out with their hurtfulness and lack of compassion during this crisis....
Special thanks should always be given to the First Responders and the County Legislative Team who worked beyond human endurance through the difficult hours to keep the situation from getting worse as they filled the vacuum of Del Gallo et al --- When I heard directly from those on the ground as this happened, I was ashamed of our Town Supervisor. I was in constant touch with people involved and my phone rung at all hours as they were diligent in handing me reports of the devastation and loss that occurred.
If I had been in town I might of hunted him down myself and offered him a stern rebuke and punch -- squarely placed on his fat nose. It is of no fault of the County, the State, the esteemed Director of the Canal Corporation, OR the City of New York for the tragedy that occurred. Although I greatly admire the Delorenzo Law firm, I assert that they are slightly off-base on this matter and I suggest they should look in our own back yard for the proper culprits.
BIIIIIIGGER PICTURE THERE SHORTY.....
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WHITE PLAINS— The New York Power Authority (NYPA) this morning terminated the “Type B” emergency at its Vischer Ferry Plant as a result of receding Mohawk River levels and NYPA’s fortifying of an earthen embankment that is a small part of the water-retaining structure of the Vischer Ferry Power Dam.
Seepage of water at the embankment, or berm, is now controlled, with the river elevation—currently at 215 feet—continuing to drop. The current level is two feet below the concrete wall crest of the embankment.
NYPA engineers remain at the embankment to monitor the situation.
Area emergency response organizations are being notified that the “Type B” emergency—the lowest of two emergency categories for hydroelectric plants—is no longer in effect.
An engineering consultant with the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, the regulatory entity for hydroelectric projects, is expected to be at the site today.
Historic high river flows from Tropical Storm Irene led to the water seepage. The fortified embankment is separate from other parts of the power dam.
About NYPA:
■ The New York Power Authority uses no tax money or state credit. It finances its operations through the sale of bonds and revenues earned in large part through sales of electricity. ■ NYPA is a leader in promoting energy efficiency, new energy technologies and electric transportation initiatives. ■ It is the nation's largest state public power organization, with 17 generating facilities in various parts of New York State and more than 1,400 circuit-miles of transmission lines. ■ More than 80 percent of the electricity it produces is clean renewable hydropower. Its lower-cost power production and electricity purchases support hundreds of thousands of jobs throughout the state. ■For more information, http://www.nypa.gov.
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Power Authority Closes Lower Reservoir To Recreational Boaters
Contact: Paul DeMichele (914) 390-8186 paul.demichele@nypa.gov
August 31, 2011
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
NORTH BLENHEIM—The New York Power Authority (NYPA) has restricted all recreational boating and shoreline fishing at the lower reservoir at its Blenheim-Gilboa Pump Storage Power Project due to the large amount of floating and submerged debris, resulting from the severe flooding from Tropical Storm Irene’s record rainfall.
The lower reservoir will be reopened when it is determined that conditions are safe for recreational use.
The Blenheim-Gilboa project’s upper reservoir, located on Kingsley Road in the Town of Gilboa, remains open to non-motorized boating, from 7 a.m. to 5 p.m daily. Permit holders are required to call 800-FOR-NYPA (800-367-6972), extension 6364, the day before they intend to use the upper reservoir. Boaters must stop at the South Gate on Valenti Road to notify NYPA security personnel before entering.
The upper reservoir may be closed to boating at any time at the Power Authority’s discretion.
About NYPA:
■ The New York Power Authority uses no tax money or state credit. It finances its operations through the sale of bonds and revenues earned in large part through sales of electricity. ■ NYPA is a leader in promoting energy efficiency, new energy technologies and electric transportation initiatives. ■ It is the nation's largest state public power organization, with 17 generating facilities in various parts of New York State and more than 1,400 circuit-miles of transmission lines. ■ More than 80 percent of the electricity it produces is clean renewable hydropower. Its lower-cost power production and electricity purchases support hundreds of thousands of jobs throughout the state. ■For more information, http://www.nypa.gov.
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The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
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NYPA Cautions Boaters Of Receding Water Levels At Crescent And Vischer Ferry Dams Due To Loss Of Flashboards From Tropical Storm Irene
Contact: Michael Saltzman (914) 390-8181 michael.saltzman@nypa.gov
September 2, 2011
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
ALBANY—The New York Power Authority (NYPA) announced Friday that damage to flashboards at the Crescent and Vischer Ferry Dams, from Tropical Storm Irene, has resulted in receding water levels at nearby marinas and private docking locations. NYPA advises recreational boaters that may depend on higher water levels to move their vessels to other locations. While there are no public safety concerns, the receding water levels could potentially damage watercraft.
The water levels could drop over the next few days by one foot at Crescent, to 184 feet; and by more than two feet at Vischer Ferry, to 211 feet.
The horizontal flashboards, which are installed at the top of the dams, facilitate higher water levels for boaters during the navigation season of spring and summer. They are removed during the fall.
The Crescent and Vischer Ferry dams are located on the Mohawk River, north of Albany, in the Towns of Niskayuna, Clifton Park and Colonie.
Any questions regarding the flashboards, should be directed to John Osinski in NYPA’s Albany Office at (51 433-6742.
About NYPA:
■ The New York Power Authority uses no tax money or state credit. It finances its operations through the sale of bonds and revenues earned in large part through sales of electricity. ■ NYPA is a leader in promoting energy efficiency, new energy technologies and electric transportation initiatives. ■ It is the nation's largest state public power organization, with 17 generating facilities in various parts of New York State and more than 1,400 circuit-miles of transmission lines. ■ More than 80 percent of the electricity it produces is clean renewable hydropower. Its lower-cost power production and electricity purchases support hundreds of thousands of jobs throughout the state. ■For more information, http://www.nypa.gov.
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Flood victims to sue state, NYC Canal Corp., Gilboa Dam oversight blamed BY JUSTIN MASON Gazette Reporter
More than two-thirds of the Rotterdam Junction homeowners fl ooded out during Tropical Storm Irene filed separate legal notices against the state and New York City this week, claiming both could have done more to prevent damage to their residences.
Damn right the State could have done more!
An emergency drain (complete with rubber stopper and chain) could have been installed in the Mohawk river, just west of town.
or
Someone from NYS could have called the Feds and asked for clearance to use The Gen. 2 HTWS™ (Haliburton Tactical Weather Satellite....**Now with racing inspired clutchless shifting and your choice of pink, blue or red anti-matter particle beams!**) and nuke the storm from orbit (It's the only real way to be sure)
"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'
Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'
Italian scientists on trial over L'Aquila earthquake EARTHQUAKE
September 20, 2011|From Livia Borghese
Seven people went on trial for manslaughter Tuesday in Italy, accused of failing to predict an earthquake that killed more than 300 people in L'Aquila in April 2009.
The seven -- six scientists from the Italian National Institute of Geophysics and Vulcanology and a member of the Civil Protection Agency -- were members of a governmental panel that prosecutors accuse of giving a "rough, generic and ineffective assessment of the seismic risk."
The seven, members of a so-called "major risks" panel, published "inaccurate, incomplete and contradictory information about the dangers of seismic activity undermining the protection of the population," prosecutors said.
"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'
Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'
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