Quoted from Shadow

The greedy unions, greedy companies, and taxes drove GE and ALCO out of Schenectady and the city has been in decline ever since. The city went from being known for lighting and hauling the world to the city that pays the highest taxes in NYS.

Well said Shadow.

And the City has gone right along padding pensions, handshake deals, no residency requirements for City employees, free cell phones and City vehicles!

And to expand on your last sentence Shadow, the City is known to all those who like to abuse the social service system as an easy hand-out.

Quoted from Shadow

The greedy unions, greedy companies, and taxes drove GE and ALCO out of Schenectady and the city has been in decline ever since. The city went from being known for lighting and hauling the world to the city that pays the highest taxes in NYS.

EXACTLY!! And now that GE and Alco are gone........the democops have taken over with the greedy unions and greedy politicians and greedy companies. Different side of the same coin. Only the demcops aren't so good at it. They have almost single handedly destroyed an entire city!!

And there will be no chance in hell for a turn around in the city unless the leadership changes, the welfare benefits get reduced and the created liberal socialist dumbed down society finds a another city that will allow them to destroy it!

Quoted from Shadow

The greedy unions, greedy companies, and taxes drove GE and ALCO out of Schenectady and the city has been in decline ever since. The city went from being known for lighting and hauling the world to the city that pays the highest taxes in NYS.

And the DEM morons flushed $100 MILLION trying to put lipstick on a pig Downtown. But don't fret some occupy idiot buys apples here once a month. That should turn it around. This demolition is disgusting. Funny how the DEM "leaders" are up in arms the day after the decision. Where were they before to prevent this outrage? Working together to slap an EMS fee on the sheeple.

Quoted from rachel72

Well said Shadow.

And the City has gone right along padding pensions, handshake deals, no residency requirements for City employees, free cell phones and City vehicles!

And to expand on your last sentence Shadow, the City is known to all those who like to abuse the social service system as an easy hand-out.

Thank God we have a joke acting Mayor who understands the importance of high taxes and DEM implosion. Who needs historic preservation? There are no empty lots on Erie of lower State for this to be built- lol. Nothing is more important than the deal especially when the recipient is a favored non-profit.

Quoted from benny salami

And the DEM morons flushed $100 MILLION trying to put lipstick on a pig Downtown.

That about says it all.

Actually -- ALCO's demise was more directly a result of the failure of the United States to invest in railroads after World War II.   Building the Eisenhower Interstate Highway System diverted federal monies away from where it should have actually been spent ----- building INTRA CITY mass transit systems and improving INTER-CITY  passenger and freight rail service.  If we had invested in inter-city rail service in the 1950's and 1960's and 1970's, we would ALREADY HAVE  high speed train service, cleaner air, have used less energy and would NOT have paved over so many thousands of miles of natural beauty.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Actually -- ALCO's demise was more directly a result of the failure of the United States to invest in railroads after World War II.   Building the Eisenhower Interstate Highway System diverted federal monies away from where it should have actually been spent ----- building INTRA CITY mass transit systems and improving INTER-CITY  passenger and freight rail service.  If we had invested in inter-city rail service in the 1950's and 1960's and 1970's, we would ALREADY HAVE  high speed train service, cleaner air, have used less energy and would NOT have paved over so many thousands of miles of natural beauty.

Does't matter what companies are here when you have money flowing out the back door.


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                        Gifts, Grants & Contributions          Gross Reciepts from Services     Gross Income from Investments
Year          aka Metroplex/Handouts     aka Admissions/Tickets     aka Interest on Handouts
2009              749,598                                             1,348,626                                 971,300
2008           1,101,124                                             1,596,405                              1,030,333
2007           1,456,019                                             1,384,421                                 453,806
2006           4,640,240                                                453,681                                 539,063
2005           8,992,772                                             4,681,451                                 539,077
2004           6,727,414                                             2,213,425                                   68,907
2003           4,720,034                                             4,973,109                                    87,366
2002           1,625,937                                             4,732,978                                  134,697
2001           1,024,905                                             4,209,288                                  131,359
2000           1,114,011                                             4,906,906                                  157,719
1999           2,319,902                                             5,091,543                                    54,095
1998           1,896,199                                             4,462,285                                    64,823
1997           1,233,098                                             4,249,345                                    72,671

ALCO's demise was the result of high taxes. This was the City that hauled and lit the world. It still lights the world with GE's state of the art turbines. ALCO was selling internationally to China, Pakistan, India. They could have made it if someone in government appreciated them. When you have anti-business policies pretty soon you have no business.

     You can't buy s*** Downtown. Watery drinks-yes? Lousy cigars-yes? Death Ray keeps lying about national retailers and bigger foot prints. The funniest part of the Mayoral debate was when stunad McCarthy said that Metroplex originally was too divided. Too many 6-5 votes! That's was a POSITIVE thing. All dissenting views have been purged. All public input has been disconnected. Now we have Stalin/McCarthy's five year plans. They don't understand the basics of planning-public involvement. If you call this disgraceful City Planning Department they hang up on you. Keep the implosion going!

Quoted from benny salami

ALCO's demise was the result of high taxes. This was the City that hauled and lit the world. It still lights the world with GE's state of the art turbines. ALCO was selling internationally to China, Pakistan, India. They could have made it if someone in government appreciated them. When you have anti-business policies pretty soon you have no business.

     You can't buy s*** Downtown. Watery drinks-yes? Lousy cigars-yes? Death Ray keeps lying about national retailers and bigger foot prints. The funniest part of the Mayoral debate was when stunad McCarthy said that Metroplex originally was too divided. Too many 6-5 votes! That's was a POSITIVE thing. All dissenting views have been purged. All public input has been disconnected. Now we have Stalin/McCarthy's five year plans. They don't understand the basics of planning-public involvement. If you call this disgraceful City Planning Department they hang up on you. Keep the implosion going!

IF -- ALCO's demise was due to high taxes (which it wasn't)  .. then it was the Republicans fault because they controlled the  city and the county when ALCO went under.

But - ALCO went under because its locomotives were not selling anymore -- as trucks, planes, buses and cars made the passenger and freight trains and the intra-city trolleys obsolete  

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

IF -- ALCO's demise was due to high taxes (which it wasn't)  .. then it was the Republicans fault because they controlled the  city and the county when ALCO went under.

But - ALCO went under because its locomotives were not selling anymore -- as trucks, planes, buses and cars made the passenger and freight trains and the intra-city trolleys obsolete  

FYI Freight Trains are not obsolete, but of course you already knew that.  

Quoted from TakingItBack

FYI Freight Trains are not obsolete, but of course you already knew that.  

In the 1950's, the demand for locomotives for passenger and freight service had dropped off tremendously- due to the rise in trucks, planes, cars, --- railroad companies were cutting passenger runs  and freight runs .. and eventually filing for bankruptcy left and right.   It seemed for a time that the railroad was being made obsolete ------------ that is why the Federal government stepped in and created Amtrak (passenger) and Conrail (freight) in an attempt to nationalize and save what was left of the railroad system.  It has only been in the last 10- 15 years that freight rail service has begun to make a comeback.

I am VERY familiar with railroad history -- so your attempts to attack the facts as I presented them are ONCE AGAIN FUTILE.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

In the 1950's, the demand for locomotives for passenger and freight service had dropped off tremendously- due to the rise in trucks, planes, cars, --- railroad companies were cutting passenger runs  and freight runs .. and eventually filing for bankruptcy left and right.   It seemed for a time that the railroad was being made obsolete ------------ that is why the Federal government stepped in and created Amtrak (passenger) and Conrail (freight) in an attempt to nationalize and save what was left of the railroad system.  It has only been in the last 10- 15 years that freight rail service has begun to make a comeback.

I am VERY familiar with railroad history -- so your attempts to attack the facts as I presented them are ONCE AGAIN FUTILE.

DUE TO THE TEAMSTERS ORGANIZING AFTER THE WAR....and a crap load of other unions.....one system eats another with government assistance.....for votes....Atlas Shrugged will give you the
inside history...not the cleaned up textbook version that keeps you as a 'good american'

no but someone is being taken  to the "cleaners".....

Quoted from Patches

no but someone is being taken  to the "cleaners".....

hence Atlas Shrugged

Quoted from senders

DUE TO THE TEAMSTERS ORGANIZING AFTER THE WAR....and a crap load of other unions.....one system eats another with government assistance.....for votes....Atlas Shrugged will give you the
inside history...not the cleaned up textbook version that keeps you as a 'good american'

Atlas Shrugged is just another piece of crap being pushed by the Tea Party --- in an attempt to appear intellectual.  

And don't  you worry about what sources I have studied for my understanding/knowledge of American History --- besides having an undergraduate degree in the field ... I have read and continue to read a WIDE RANGE of sources on many topics in American history and other areas of history.   I don't just read the one book that was ok'ed for you and your fellow tea-partiers to read .. or should I say more correctly .. the one book that may have been read to you on tape or explained by a "cheat sheet with a lot of pictures" since I doubt most of you could actually read and comprehend  a whole book.