I have to agree with Cicero and GrahamBonnet about  Box of Rock's responses  --- Box's responses were just personal attacks.

Let's face it -- not everyone is happy with the conduct of these protesters .. same with the behavior of some of the tea-party protesters.    

Most Americans -- and I would say even Cicero and GrahamBonnet --- support the Constitutional Right to Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Assembly ......   where some of us break ranks with protesters  (and here I can only speak for myself and not for Cicero and GrahamBonnet)  is when the protestors break the law or are allowed some privilege that others would not be allowed.

For example -- would the City of Albany allow a  Right to Life group to set up tents in Academy Park or even a group of Boy Scouts ??????    I would dare say those groups would not be allowed .. even if they made the effort to apply for permits.

Furthermore - I would challenge the attempt to compare the "Occupy whatever" movement with the Civil Rights movement -------  we know that MoveON.org and some other big money groups are funding the overall movement ..... and some of the protesters are being paid to protest ... and they don't seem to have a cohesive or coherent purpose for protesting  ------------ finally .. there is no legal entity or person responsible for this movement that can be held to account for the  literally millions of dollars of damage that has been done to public and private property by these protesters across the country.

I am all for  Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Assembly --- but with those freedoms comes a certain degree of responsibility as well --- and trashing public parks and in some cases private property IS NOT  protected by the US Constitution and is NOT necessary to get ones point(s) across.

the only thing sinister is looking in their mirror and not realizing what we are capable of even with good intentions....it lives in everyone, the issue is either we control it individually or someone else will control it for you

This is an opportunity for  younger generations to rekindle the great spirit and political energy of the 1960's so I would disagree with DVOR on this point.   Senders -- you make absolutely NO SENSE so DROP DEAD AND GET OFF THIS FORUM -- You are stinking it up with your confusion.

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This is an opportunity for  younger generations to rekindle the great spirit and political energy of the 1960's so I would disagree with DVOR on this point.   Senders -- you make absolutely NO SENSE so DROP DEAD AND GET OFF THIS FORUM -- You are stinking it up with your confusion.

you look in the mirror and dont know what to do with GG/DVOR?

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This is an opportunity for  younger generations to rekindle the great spirit and political energy of the 1960's so I would disagree with DVOR on this point.   Senders -- you make absolutely NO SENSE so DROP DEAD AND GET OFF THIS FORUM -- You are stinking it up with your confusion.

At least the 1960's demonstrators were doing so for a focused and understandable reason -- for the most part.
Although, I will admit that if I had been born 10 to 15 years earlier .. I would have been active in the Civil Rights demonstrations but NOT in the anti-war demonstrations ---- even at a very early age i remember thinking how inappropriate it was for the "peace activists" to be burning the flag and spitting on military or police in uniform.    That was a sad, sad chapter in American history and I do NOT believe it is worth reliving and certainly would NOT call it a "great spirit".

Who is Occupy Albany?
The words you hear on this board hardly match the reality.  Many on this board project what they WANT Occupy
Albany to be, not what it is.  
Filthy?  Jobless?  Lazy?
Keep your preconceived notions if you want and avoid the reality if you choose.

Who is Occupy Albany???
I am an Occupier:
Robert
I am 27 years old and I work as an attorney. I graduated from SUNY Albany in 2005,spent a year bartending nights at
Mỹ Linh on Delaware Ave. and working during the day at the Marriot TownePlace Suites across from SUNY Albany and
at the Stewarts where Whitehall meets New Scotland Road. I started at Albany Law in September 2006. I bartended
throughout law school while working as a law clerk for some fantastic local attorneys and for the Attorney General and
then Governor’s office.
http://blog.timesunion.com/occupyalbany/i-am-an-occupier-robert-magee/60/

I have never characterized who the participants of the Occupy Albany were -- as far as occupation or such.

I have characterized their behavior ---  destroying public property by pitching tents in flower beds, breaking the law by camping overnight in a public park with out a permit,  violating local ordinances by erecting structures without permits and bringing in generators and heating devices that are NOT legally allowed in a public park ------ and there have been reports of drug use and other illegal activities by the demonstrators.

Protest all you want --- carry your signs and chant your chants --- but let the public enjoy the parks that their tax dollars paid for and - above all - do NOT break the law and expect us to ignore it.

The time has come to call in the National Guard to take back the park once and for all.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

The time has come to call in the National Guard to take back the park once and for all.

Liberty and free speech  are  such  threats to some that they advocate military force to quash it.  

Quoted from Box A Rox

Liberty and free speech  are  such  threats to some that they advocate military force to quash it.  

They can exercise their free speech without damaging public property and without breaking laws and ordinances.

~ "They can exercise their free speech without damaging public property and without breaking laws and ordinances." ~

Where have I read this phrasing before???
Oh yea.  It was the king of England, discussing the Boston Tea Party.

Quoted from Box A Rox

~ "They can exercise their free speech without damaging public property and without breaking laws and ordinances." ~

Where have I read this phrasing before???
Oh yea.  It was the king of England, discussing the Boston Tea Party.

So you would have no problem if I gathered a bunch of counter-demonstrators ... and we decided to exercise our Freedom of Speech by using tear gas and fire hoses and a few dozen hungry dobermans  in Academy Park ?????

Quoted from Box A Rox

~ "They can exercise their free speech without damaging public property and without breaking laws and ordinances." ~

Where have I read this phrasing before???
Oh yea.  It was the king of England, discussing the Boston Tea Party.

Wow, you are a tea partier now.  Good for you.  You are progressing.  The difference is, the tea party was directed at a king.  The occupiers are protesting private property owners.  They aren't standing in front of the white house or congress or the federal reserve.  They are hurting small businesses like pizza shops and deli's in these cities.  Thatis why their popularity is sinking like a rock.  

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So you would have no problem if I gathered a bunch of counter-demonstrators ... and we decided to exercise our Freedom of Speech by using tear gas and fire hoses and a few dozen hungry dobermans  in Academy Park ?????

DVOR... That suppression of free speech has been done... It's passe...
See: The Police Response To Occupy Oakland.
How about something more original to demonstrate your opposition to our free speech.
(Need help?  Consult Mein Kampf)

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So you would have no problem if I gathered a bunch of counter-demonstrators ... and we decided to exercise our Freedom of Speech by using tear gas and fire hoses and a few dozen hungry dobermans  in Academy Park ?????

My response to this should you care to read it can be found here http://rotterdamny.info/m-1321726316/ reply#3  (Warning may contain objectionable language!)

Quoted from Box A Rox

~ "They can exercise their free speech without damaging public property and without breaking laws and ordinances." ~

Where have I read this phrasing before???
Oh yea.  It was the king of England, discussing the Boston Tea Party.

Yeah fighting taxation without representation is just like the goals of OWS I was all for them protesting and even for them using civil disobedience but once they started trashing private businesses they lost any backing by me. Truth is these people are scum, whatever message they did have was lost long ago once they started acting like animals.