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Smoking Bananas
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the only numbers thsat count are the budget numbers, and mcc delivered...


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Delivered what???? Fee and tax increases???

That's not balancing a budget, that's using the homeowners as the Council's personal ATM. Why didn't McCarthy take back ALL cell phones for the City employees - his alone cost $800! What about the City vehicles?

Nothing is cut again!  
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Quoted from rachel72
Delivered what???? Fee and tax increases???

That's not balancing a budget, that's using the homeowners as the Council's personal ATM. Why didn't McCarthy take back ALL cell phones for the City employees - his alone cost $800! What about the City vehicles?

Nothing is cut again!  


of which I'm sure B of A will help the council and charge $5.00 to manage the fees....fees of what value? hhhhmmmmm

ch-ch-ch-changes.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

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are u certain he did not cut anything? he must have had to cut to balance the budget. something went away.


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Quoted from Smoking Bananas
are u certain he did not cut anything? he must have had to cut to balance the budget. something went away.


Yeah,  cut services to the taxpayers, and continue to exempt the millionaires from paying taxes.   Yeah, good one, huh?    All the tax handouts to the millionaires downtown has NOT done anything to reduce taxes on the taxpaayers who are the highest in the region AND almost the highest in the whole country.   All the tax handouts have NOT resulted in any real increase in jobs---they merely move EXISTING jobs a couple bloicks or a couple miles, and any new jobs are poverty wages---jobs which people cannot afford to buy a house in the city.   All the tax handouts and people are still trying to flee the city in droves--sadly no one want to buy their homes after a year on the market!   All the tax handouts to downtown and vital services have been cut over the years


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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Without the investment in downtown and the rest of the county by Metroplex -- the city would have LESS property tax revenue and LESS sales tax revenue.

BTW -- despite what the nayboobs say .. housing sales in the city are UP not down.  Projects have been completed to improve the city .... more investments/projects are in the works.


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Without the investment in downtown and the rest of the county by Metroplex -- the city would have LESS property tax revenue and LESS sales tax revenue.

BTW -- despite what the nayboobs say .. housing sales in the city are UP not down.  Projects have been completed to improve the city .... more investments/projects are in the works.


But the money could have been used for NECESSARY city services, perhaps more police, better infrastructure, better snow plowing, and it would result in a  better quality of life and more people buying homes which would result in more tax revenue and ore people would want to come and live in the city

But the free wheel spending has robbed most of the txpayers of their life savings such that they are forced to flee the city, often abandoning their homes, letting them go for taxes, or otherwise taking a huge loss just to get away from the lack of city services and the very very very low quality of life


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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like I said -- they forgot to take out the real trash in the city (MC)


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Quoted from Smoking Bananas
are u certain he did not cut anything? he must have had to cut to balance the budget. something went away.


OR.....TOOK something........

a - or a +

politicians and their fancy math......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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BTW -- housing sales in the city are UP not down.  Projects have been completed to improve the city .... more investments/projects are in the works.


More fantasyland. 800 properties for sale and 1,200 more rotting because of 35 straight years of DEM confiscatory taxes. Great condos on Union and Barrett? lol. Half of the stunad projects end up like The Big House or Trustco HQ. Highest taxes and worst government.
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where the hell is MEXICAN RADIO?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Without the investment in downtown and the rest of the county by Metroplex -- the city would have LESS property tax revenue and LESS sales tax revenue.

BTW -- despite what the nayboobs say .. housing sales in the city are UP not down.  Projects have been completed to improve the city .... more investments/projects are in the works.


Provide the list of closed sales....from OFFICIAL sources.   And show me the sale prices compared to the assessments.

Can you explain why houses even in nicer areas sit for 6 months or more unso9ld?

And explain how values are up when they even in the best areas they go for auction?   Like the house in the GE plot which went for a tiny fraction of it's worth after the previous owner I think just walked away


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
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Quoted from senders
where the hell is MEXICAN RADIO?


In Albany with Wolff 1-11-lol. Think these DEM sock puppets get news from a Mexican Radio. What did he say? Working together works! Keep the implosion going! Re-elect the DEM retirement team!
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From citydata.com   --- housing sales UP  in 2010 and so far in 2011  compared to 5 years ago.

Single Family housing permits -- last 2 years -- highest in 14 years

Schenectady NY   (from citydata.com)
Single-family new house construction building permits:
1996: 15 buildings, average cost: $44,200
1997: 12 buildings, average cost: $69,100
1998: 2 buildings, average cost: $51,200
1999: 3 buildings, average cost: $68,700
2000: 6 buildings, average cost: $67,500
2001: 6 buildings, average cost: $67,700
2002: 3 buildings, average cost: $67,700
2003: 4 buildings, average cost: $67,700
2004: 6 buildings, average cost: $67,700
2005: 6 buildings, average cost: $67,700
2006: 5 buildings, average cost: $67,700
2007: 4 buildings, average cost: $67,700
2008: 3 buildings, average cost: $67,700
2009: 15 buildings, average cost: $133,300
2010: 10 buildings, average cost: $89,300


Read more: http://www.city-data.com/city/Schenectady-New-York.html#ixzz1ZsKHusVS


The numbers don't lie  --- the RENAISSANCE continues.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
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Quick question, with these permits, how many are completed? Really, anyone can get a permit to start building, but how many of these homes were actually built? Just wondering.

Also, interesting page DV, here's some other info about the City:

- City-data.com crime index (higher means more crime, U.S. average = 319.2) The City of Schenectady crime index is 557.4

-Unemployment in March 2011 - in Schenectady 9% in New York State 8%

-Home sales per quarter has PLUMMETED! This last quarter in 2011 (Q2) is the lowest it's been since the beginning of this chart in 2006.  That chart is NOT looking good.
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