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As home values fall in Niskayuna, school tax rate climbs
Friday, September 2, 2011
By Michael Goot (Contact)
Gazette Reporter


NISKAYUNA — Declining property values are pushing up the Niskayuna school tax rate.

The Board of Education recently voted to set a homestead tax rate of $17.47 per $1,000 of assessed valuation, which is an increase of 4.22 percent. The owner of an average home assessed at $250,000 would pay about $178 more in taxes for a bill of $4,368 — before any STAR tax exemptions.

The $77.2 million budget that voters approved in May contained a 3.95 percent increase in the tax levy. However, the poor economy and real estate market has decreased the total property assessment for Niskayuna, according to Superintendent Susan Salvaggio.

“We’ve lost some value in commercial property in the community,” she said. “We’ve also lost some pretty significant value in residential property.”

The total value of the commercial property in all four towns in the district — Niskayuna, Glenville, Colonie and Clifton Park — declined by $4.2 million from $489.5 million to $485.3 million.

Matt Bourgeois, assistant superintendent for business, said that Niskayuna does not have a large tax base. Mohawk Commons is in the South Colonie Central School District, he added................................................>>>>.............................................>>>>.....................................http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2011/sep/02/0902_niskayuna/
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people there love when taxes go up!


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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“We’ve lost some value in commercial property in the community,” she said. “We’ve also lost some pretty significant value in residential property.”


BUT...according to Moody's the counties bond rating went up.....I know it's not a DIRECT affect towards schools but for the purpose of building up
and growing with commercial property one would think things were looking up....

the leaders/bankers/lawyers/policymakers/legislators have 2 choices:

1. knew what was going on and played far and deep in the fodder
2. are really that inept and never saw it coming

either way the plebs are F'D


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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The gazette story doesn't explain things well.

The story says that the property values delined and referenced lower assessments.   No where in that story did it say that Nisky did a complete, townwide reassessment of all properties.   The gazette failed to explain whether the lower total assessment is due to individual homeowners--in large numbers--filing and winning assessment grievances OR whether the rich commercial properties filed and won grievances.

When the big rich commercial properties win grievances to lower their assessment, it causes the tax BILLs of the homeonwers to rise IF the tax LEVY stays the same.   Of course as the article states, the LEVY has icreased too.

Need to understand this.   And the title of the story is deceiving too.   It says property values deline so tax RATE increases.

Hope you can take this in.

If a tax RATE (per thousand) was, say, $12. AND IF a municipality reassessed all properties downward by 50%, then even without an increase in the tx LEVY. there would be an increase in the tax RATE to $24.   But peoples' tax BILLS would remain IDENTICAL.

If a tax RATE (per thousand) was, say, $24, AND if a municipality reassessed all properties upward by 50%, then without any change in the tax LEVY, there would be a reduction in the tax RATE down to $12.    But the peoples' tax BILLs would remain IDENTICAL.

I will clarify further, those two statements above one step further.   I used the example of 50% increase in assessed values and in the second a 50% decrease.  The clarification is that in this example the assumption is that each and every property had their assessment increased by 50% (and decreased by 50% in the second example).    If that was the case, then it would be conceivable that the tax BILLS would be IDENTICAL.

There are so many variables.   If the TOTAL municipality wide ASSESSED VALUE drops by 50%, AND IF the tax LEVY stayed the same, then the tax RATE would exactly double, but the tax BILLs would vary depending on the reduction in one's individual property assessement.   Remember, in the absense of a municpality wide reassessment, only some homeowners will fille a grievance.

The tax LEVY is the amount that must be collected in property taxes.   A budget CAN be increased yet the tax LEVY stays the same IF the muni gets revenue from other sources to cover it's increased spending.

A muni can reeduce it's budget, reduce it's spending, yet increase the tax LEVY.....IF other sources of revenue a reduced (e.g., state and fed aid).

The tax LEVY can stay exactly the same but the tax RATE can increase if the total assessed value (of all properties combined) is reduced, and individual homeowners tax BILLs will vary depending on if they were personally affected by an assessment reduction----sometimes by the muni-wide reassessment and then further by their own grievances.

The tax LEVY can be reduced if a muni has incrases in other revenue or reduces its spending but a sizeable reduction in property value can still push up the tax RATE,

Hope you are thoroughly confused.  

Putting together a spreadsheet and taking a hypothetical 20 residential property assessments and 5 commercials, you can make changes to inidivdual property assessments, or all by the same percent, and then imagine changes in the LEVY.  You would see how the tax RATES and tax BILLS change based on the Total Assessed Value.

Then you need to factor in exemptions.   Just put those 20 residential properties of $200,000 assessments and make the commercial properties have $10,000,000 asssessments and then go and change the assessments of the commerical properties to 0 because of 100% tax exemptions....like the millioniares downtown get.....and watch what happenes to the homeonwers tax BILLS.

This can be mind boggling to figure out, "how come if this happens to the rate, then why does that happen to the bills"   etc


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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Thanks for trying to help us understand anyway. That's why I use this website. For insight you can't get through local media outlets.
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Working together works! SS Savage is gone but her implosion lingers. Coach Landry understands the importance
      of high taxes!
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thanks mc1....AGAIN ......for the explanation.

Just as an added side note............ there are homes in nisky that boarder the city and these homes have lost value due to their location. Some of these folks have tried to sell their homes with no success. I know since one is my cousin. Their home has lost value while the taxes have increased.


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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LEVY....RATE....EQUALIZATION.........PAY ATTENTION......it's ALL in the rhetoric and MC is F'N correct,........

if A + B then C....................


who paid attention in algebra? the ONLY reason for algebra is verbal rhetoric.......the elected know this................

TRUTH TABLES.....remember?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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