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Box A Rox
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The USA just spent two months while the TeaBaggers and the Republicans played games with the debt issue.
In the meantime, 2 months of the Obama administration was tied up with foolishness waiting for the GOP congress to take a stand.  It still isn't settled.
Why?
Not because of the Dems...
But because the Puzzy GOP is afraid of the big bad wussy TeaBaggers.  If you vote against the Radicals, you will face a challenger in your next GOP election.

The TeaBaggers will fade and fade and finally die, but they are going to do a lot of damage and no good in the mean time.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Yes Box that explains very well why the first 2 years of the Obama Administration when they controlled both houses of Congress and couldn't pass a budget. When Obama sent Congress his budget it was voted down by both the Reps and the Dems, but you can blame the Reps if you want, people know the truth.
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Check the votes... Blue Dog Democrats... many since voted out of office, voted their conservative views and screwed the country.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Before social security, most elderly were living in poverty.  

And the seniors today who are living on social security are not living in poverty????
If you believe that one, I got a bridge to nowhere to sell ya!!
OMG!!!

Hurray for SOCIAL security.....it's really working, huh?


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The Obama administration cares so much about the elderly that they changed the formula on how they figure  COLA so they could deny all of the elderly a COLA raise for the last 2 years. Some of the Seniors living only on Social Security have to make a decision of whether to buy food or buy their prescription drugs every month. The Dems created the entitlement programs and now that they are out of money to support them they want to try to blame it on the Reps. Socialistic government has failed everywhere that it has been tried because they run out of other peoples money far too soon.
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And the seniors today who are living on social security are not living in poverty????
If you believe that one, I got a bridge to nowhere to sell ya!!
OMG!!!

Hurray for SOCIAL security.....it's really working, huh?


Yes. Today with out SS many seniors would have no income and with out Medicare, no health care.

Many women have ONLY SS as their entire income.


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The Obama administration cares so much about the elderly that they changed the formula on how they figure  COLA so they could deny all of the elderly a COLA raise for the last 2 years. Some of the Seniors living only on Social Security have to make a decision of whether to buy food or buy their prescription drugs every month. The Dems created the entitlement programs and now that they are out of money to support them they want to try to blame it on the Reps. Socialistic government has failed everywhere that it has been tried because they run out of other peoples money far too soon.

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Look it up.  SS COLA is based on the inflation index.  If inflation is very low, there is no COLA.  



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Just think if George Worst Bush had his way in 2001 when he proposed (and failed) to put all Social Security into the stock market.



Bringing up GB is just as rhetorical and smoke and mirrors as bringing abortion and racism into the equation. The truth of the matter is.....social security is unsustainable. Folks who presently receive SS are getting less to live on (no cost of living increase..medicare payments increase) so they can help pay for this government entitlement they and their employers already paid for during their employable years. It's a proven failing system and needs to be phased out from generation to generation.

The 60's and 70's hippies have left the WORSE LEGACY EVER in history to the 'next generation'!!


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Just remember the truth as it applies now to Social Security, as stated back in 1976.

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The trouble with Socialism is that eventually, you run out of other people's money.
                                                                          -Margaret Thatcher


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Shadow
Look it up.  SS COLA is based on the inflation index.  If inflation is very low, there is no COLA.  



You know what else is based on the inflation rate?  The NYS Pension COLA is based on the inflation rate...Looks like NYS was able to squeeze out 1.4% COLA adjustment for state retirees in 2011, yet Social Security says there is NO COLA adjustment for 2011.  As a matter of fact, NYS pension system hasn't missed a COLA adjustment since 2001.  Box can you explain how that is possible?  I'll tell you how, bureaucrats are thieving PIGS.

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New York State And Local Retirement System
What is COLA?

A COLA payment is an adjustment, based on the cost-of-living index, which will permanently increase your retirement benefit. It is designed to address future inflation as it occurs.
This Year’s COLA Increase
The September 2011 COLA equals 1.4 percent, for a maximum annual increase of $252.00, or $21.00 per month before taxes.

Receiving COLA
You will receive your first COLA increase the month following the month you become eligible. You will receive the prorated portion due for the month you became eligible plus the COLA for the month you receive the payment.

Once you are eligible, you will receive an annual COLA increase each September. We will send you a letter informing you of the amount prior to your September 30th pension payment, when the increase goes into effect.

http://www.osc.state.ny.us/retire/retirees/cost_of_living_adjustment.htm
http://www.nystrs.org/main/retirees/cola.htm

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SOCIAL SECURITY
News Release
Under the Law No Social Security COLA for 2011
Monthly Social Security and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefits for more than 58 million Americans will not automatically increase in 2011, the Social Security Administration announced today.

http://www.ssa.gov/pressoffice/pr/2011cola-pr.htm


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A COLA payment is an adjustment, based on the cost-of-living index, which will permanently increase your retirement benefit. It is designed to address future inflation as it occurs.

IF there is no inflation, there is no COLA


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So, then, prices on everything must be going down everywhere except for New York State.  What other explanation would there be for being no COLA on a Federal Level, but there was a COLA at the state level?


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IF there is no inflation, there is no COLA


And apparently in the NYS retirement system, if there is negative inflation there is STILL a COLA adjustment.  AMAZING!!!


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So, then, prices on everything must be going down everywhere except for New York State.  What other explanation would there be for being no COLA on a Federal Level, but there was a COLA at the state level?


Prices going down??? In NYS???? Gee....my paycheck has snapped from trying to s-t-r-e-t-c-h it!!!! And the seniors in  NYS can't afford their everyday essentials...hmmmmmm!


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TAKE A LOOK AT 2009 - A NEGATIVE CPI OF -.38% YET A COLA ADJUSTMENT OF 1%.


The table below indicates COLA percentages and maximum increases dating to September 2001, when COLA legislation took effect.

COLA Effective Date     
CPI Increase
COLA
Maximum Monthly Increase*
September 2001     
2.92%
1.5%
$22.50
September 2002     
1.48%
1.0%
$15.00
September 2003     
3.02%
1.6%
$24.00
September 2004     
1.74%
1.0%
$15.00
September 2005     
3.15%
1.6%
$24.00
September 2006     
3.36%
1.7%
$25.50
September 2007     
2.78%
1.4%
$21.00
September 2008     
3.98%
2.0%
$30.00
September 2009     
-0.38%
1.0%
$15.00
September 2010     
2.31%
1.2%
$18.00
September 2011     
2.68%
1.4%
$21.00


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