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Tell all the millionaires including Michael Moore to write a check and send it to the IRS and tell the IRS they aren't paying enough taxes if that's the way they feel.
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Tell all the millionaires including Michael Moore to write a check and send it to the IRS and tell the IRS they aren't paying enough taxes if that's the way they feel.


Millionaires for Higher Taxes
Yet again, another group of millionaires want their taxes raised for the good of the entire country.
The group realizes that the Tax Cuts for the Rich are being paid for by Middle Class America.

How will a few millionaires sending a (tax deductible) gift to the IRS help the problem of tax inequity?
  How will that help the fact that over1500 millionaires pay no tax at all.  How will a few millionaires sending a
donation to the IRS help the long term debt this country faces.

These very successful millionaires understand that even their wealth is threatened by income inequity and tax
inequity in America.  They understand that the tax system favors the rich and penalizes the working men and women
of America.  They want a strong economy where all Americans can succeed, not an impoverished nation where only the
richest Americans prosper.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Millionaires for Higher Taxes

Yet again, another group of millionaires want their taxes raised for the good of the entire country.
The millionaires want Congress to allow the tax cuts passed during the George W. Bush administration to expire. Some want higher taxes generally.

The group realizes that the Tax Cuts for the Rich are being paid for by Middle Class America.


CNN Money
http://money.cnn.com/2011/11/16/news/economy/tax_millionaires/index.htm?iid=HP_River




I still don't understand why these "rich" don't just lower the prices of their products and services.  Why do they want to be taxed instead?  Cheaper prices are something that would directly help ALL people - IMMEDIATELY.  Why don't they donate their money to charity.  Ohhhh...I know why, because lowering the price of their products would cripple the state and local governments that rely on SALES TAX REVENUE.  And donating money to charity is not taxable.  If products suddenly became cheaper, and millionaires gave their money away, that would reduce the amount of tax revenue into city and county governments that pay the salaries, health insurance, and pensions of government workers.  

The MILLIONAIRES AND GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRAT FEAR DEFLATION!!!  The rich and the government are the only people that benefit from inflation.  Most middle and lower class Americans would actually benefit from a period of deflation.


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I still don't understand why these "rich" don't just lower the prices of their products and services.  Why do they want to be taxed instead?  Cheaper prices are something that would directly help ALL people - IMMEDIATELY.  Ohhhh...I know why, because lowering the price of their products would cripple the state and local governments that rely on SALES TAX REVENUE.  If products suddenly became cheaper, that would reduce the amount of tax revenue into city and county governments that pay the salaries, health insurance, and pensions of government workers.  


Cicero has trouble grasping new concepts.
Think about it Cic... Many of these people don't SELL ANYTHING!
They have no PRICES TO LOWER...
Many work on Wall Street and never ever sell anything that has a price tag.

Once again... they are trying to help all Americans... not themselves.  They want America to prosper... get it?
  They want to live in a country that doesn't exploit the middle class to fund the Rich.
THEY WANT FAIRNESS IN THE TAX SYSTEM, and opportunity for all.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Cicero has trouble grasping new concepts.
Think about it Cic... Many of these people don't SELL ANYTHING!
They have no PRICES TO LOWER...
Many work on Wall Street and never ever sell anything that has a price tag.

Once again... they are trying to help all Americans... not themselves.  They want America to prosper... get it?
  They want to live in a country that doesn't exploit the middle class to fund the Rich.
THEY WANT FAIRNESS IN THE TAX SYSTEM, and opportunity for all.


Box, Google doesn't sell anything?  Have you ever heard of Google Ad Sense?  Does Google charge money to advertise?  Does advertisement costs get passed on to the consumer?  Do you even understand business?  People that make millions are not just handed millions.  They offer a product or service, and THEY can control the price in which they offer these products or services.  They don't have to wait for the government extortionists to take it from them.  

Let me give you and example. If Google charges $1000 to market your product on Ad Sense, how about instead of charging $1000, they charge $500?  I'll tell you why, because the government taxes that transaction and receive a percentage of the sale.   Deflation would KILL the government revenue stream.

Rich people are publically promoting taxation because they need to continue to sell the lie and inflationary policy of the central bankers for which the corporations benefit.  If you think these millionaires and corporations are doing this for any other reason besides their personal or corporate benefit, you are naive.  


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Rich people are publically promoting taxation because they need to continue to sell the lie and inflationary policy of the central bankers for which the corporations benefit.  If you think these millionaires and corporations are doing this for any other reason besides their personal or corporate benefit, you are naive.  

... or you are mistaken.


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... or you are mistaken.


...yeah, the corporations and “fat cats” that you and Obama have demogouged over the past 3 years suddenly had an epiphany and repented from their sins of greed and want to pay MORE taxes to benefit all.  This is the new benevolent American corporatism.  

Read Edward Bernays, and you will understand that corporate America is running a massive PR campaign.  They are in desparation mode to convince America to have faith in the monetary and tax system that has kept the corporations and banks in control of America.  If Americans wake up and loses faith in current systems they know it is over.  The carrot at the end of the stick that keeps Americans in the rat race will be gone.  


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The fairest tax would be a FLAT TAX ... with NO deductions, exemptions or loopholes.  


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Millionaires for Higher Taxes

Yet again, another group of millionaires want their taxes raised for the good of the entire country.
The millionaires want Congress to allow the tax cuts passed during the George W. Bush administration to expire. Some want higher taxes generally.

The group realizes that the Tax Cuts for the Rich are being paid for by Middle Class America.


CNN Money
http://money.cnn.com/2011/11/16/news/economy/tax_millionaires/index.htm?iid=HP_River



up front they do....because then they will get those loop-holes for their a$$-holes


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Maybe we should just go back to the original Constitution, get rid of the IRS, only tax imports, and that would save Americans money and jobs, as it would be cheaper to buy American-made products than imports.  It would give more of a reason for companies to keep their workers here, except for the unions with how much money they demand.


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Billionaires use tax loopholes to pay 1% tax rate




The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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Billionaires use tax loopholes to pay 1% tax rate




CHA-F'EN-CHING!!!!

it has nothing to do with how much they make...I could care less if they work for a $24mil salary....but the loopholes are ridiculous...and BOTH DEMS/REPS are using them via their accountants...
so to say the DEMS/REPS have our best interest at heart is very misleading....they eat at the same freakin' trough....

I dont want to have handed to me something that was taken from someone else....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Half of Congress Enjoys Millionaire Status, Study Shows

Published November 19, 2011

| FoxNews.com

Talk about the 1 percent.

A new study shows about half the lawmakers in Congress are millionaires, and that their net worth has risen steadily since 2008 despite the financial crash.

The analysis by the Center for Responsive Politics found that 250 members of Congress have an estimated net worth of at least $1 million. Though some members of Congress have tried to cozy up to the Occupy Wall Street protests and their message of representing 99 percent of America, assets of more than $1 million would easily put those lawmakers in the top 1 percent.

And as it turns out, wealth knows no party.

According to the report, 37 Senate Democrats and 30 Senate Republicans are worth more than $1 million. In the House, 110 Republicans and 73 Democrats enjoy the same status.

The Senate is more flush with funds than the House. In the upper chamber, the median net worth of a senator is $2.63 million. For a House member, it's about $757,000. Those figures are up 16 and 17 percent, respectively, from 2008.

The center crunched the numbers for each member of Congress by examining his or her publicly released assets and liabilities, then calculating the average between his or her minimum and maximum estimated worth.

As several previous tallies have shown, Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., came out as the wealthiest member in Congress -- with an average net worth of $448 million. Close behind were Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas; Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.; Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va.; and Sen. Herb Kohl, D-Wis.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politic.....shows/#ixzz1eAgpLglc
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The income tax rate should be flat and no exemptions or loopholes.


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Income tax rates should be ZERO since labor shouldn't be taxed.  Corporate tax on profis should be taxed at flat rate and local usage taxes should be levied on public utilities and services.


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