The politicians and smart thinkers were positive the world was flat in their day too. They sure look silly now don't they.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
There is a difference of opinion about the speed, the extent and some effects of Climate Change, but there is little doubt among scientists that it's real. The most pressing problem will be feeding an expanding population on a food system totally rearranged by changing climate conditions.
Believe it or don't, all the same to me. I'll go with SCIENCE rather than the POLITICIANS on this one.
That is not science. Science isn't democratic and you can't have a difference of opinion. Having "little doubt" means there is doubt, which means it isn't scientifically proven. Scientist don't vote on it, and if 51% believe it's true, then it is. The molecular make up of carbon or the law of gravity are proven science, there are no differences of opinion. There is no opinion in science. It is either proven or not proven. Global warming caused by man is a hypothesis that hasn't been proven.
Politicians use this brand of junk science to push a political agenda. They want it to be scientifically proven, but it isn't.
NEWSFLASH: It will be hot next summer too! US scientists found that the UN "panels" prediction of a 3 degree increase in the world temperatures in 20 years is totally wrong. No increase.
No companies are moving back to Upstate NY with its anti-business climate and record tax rate. Even CardioMag is moving to Texas. Abu Dubai Foundries is a multi-billion dollar taxpayer rip off. And they are back at the trough for more.
Yeah....like science isn't political!!! It's a political vote generating, campaign contribution machine for the brain dead to fall for!!
All the more reason to have a new TAX, coincidentally!
"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
That is not science. Science isn't democratic and you can't have a difference of opinion. Having "little doubt" means there is doubt, which means it isn't scientifically proven. Scientist don't vote on it, and if 51% believe it's true, then it is. The molecular make up of carbon or the law of gravity are proven science, there are no differences of opinion. There is no opinion in science. It is either proven or not proven. Global warming caused by man is a hypothesis that hasn't been proven.
Politicians use this brand of junk science to push a political agenda. They want it to be scientifically proven, but it isn't.
Real Science? OK... I'll present my "real science" on the consensus of Climate Change... then wait for yours.
First,eliminate the 'politically driven scientists'. We agree that politics is not welcome in this decision... only science.
~ William R.L. Anderegg, a doctoral candidate at Stanford University, and his fellow authors compiled a database of 1,372 climate researchers. They then focused on scientists who had published at least 20 papers on climate, as a way to concentrate on those most active in the field. That produced a list of 908 researchers whose work was subjected to close scrutiny. ~
Second, qualify the candidates: ~ The authors then classified those researchers as convinced or unconvinced by the evidence for human-induced climate change, based on such factors as whether they have signed public statements endorsing or dissenting from the big United Nations reports raising alarm about the issue. Then the authors analyzed how often each scientist had been published in the climate-science literature, as well as how often each had been cited in other papers. (The latter is a standard measure of scientific credibility and influence.)~
Third, The results: ~ The results are pretty conclusive. The new research supports the idea that the vast majority of the world’s active climate scientists accept the evidence for global warming as well as the case that human activities are the principal cause of it. ~
No politics, no outside pressure, a scientific method to find the most valid consensus of the most qualified scientists in the field.
The only real dissenting voices in this discussion are the politicians, unqualified scientists in the field, and those hired by the opposition to spread doubt.
There is no DOUBT... I await your scientific results.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
When your grant money is supplied by climate alarmists you had better find results that support their view or they'll find another scientist who will. This is why a couple of the leaders in the climate change research, James Hanson, and half of the alarmists in the UK/UN were caught adjusting their findings to fit their theory. It's all about getting more money and making more money selling phony carbon credits.
When your grant money is supplied by climate alarmists you had better find results that support their view or they'll find another scientist who will. This is why a couple of the leaders in the climate change research, James Hanson, and half of the alarmists in the UK/UN were caught adjusting their findings to fit their theory. It's all about getting more money and making more money selling phony carbon credits.
See that on Fox??? Fox did an awesome job of distorting a difference of opinion on issues of the science, into a supposed fraud by the scientists. The sad part is that many people believed it. Once again, there is a lot of money and political pull to quash this science. In the end, SCIENCE will win, but by then all the Right Wing Politicians and Fox Crew will be safely on the ARC as the water rises around the 'true believers' of Right Wing Koch media.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
If science can prove what is being claimed with cold hard facts that haven't been corrupted for financial gain that we truly have a climate problem caused by man then that is the time to address it. There were also quite a few scientists who didn't believe in the theory that man caused all the climate problem but were harassed, not covered by the media, and had their funding cut because they didn't go along with those who stood to make billions of dollars in the carbon credit scam. Al Gores movie was filled with lies and half truths to try to persuade people to believe in his theories and because so many of the people who provided the data to support global warming were corrupt people now won't believe them even if their theory proves true.
If science can prove what is being claimed with cold hard facts that haven't been corrupted for financial gain that we truly have a climate problem caused by man then that is the time to address it. There were also quite a few scientists who didn't believe in the theory that man caused all the climate problem but were harassed, not covered by the media, and had their funding cut because they didn't go along with those who stood to make billions of dollars in the carbon credit scam. Al Gores movie was filled with lies and half truths to try to persuade people to believe in his theories and because so many of the people who provided the data to support global warming were corrupt people now won't believe them even if their theory proves true.
Read the NY Times article on the issue. They considered all QUALIFIED Scientists who had expertise on the issue. Those with out Climate Science qualifications also had opinions... but as a Medical scientist, or a Genetic scientist, or a Disease scientist, your opinion has very little value... it's just an educated OPINION, and should be disregarded. Those with an expertise in the Climate Science specialties have come to a consensus... They agree that Climate Change is real and happening now.
Shadow... I'm not trying to convince you. It seems you will always take the word of some Fox news reporter over real science ... that's your prerogative. If you do ever want the facts undoubted by politics... the answer is there, but you won't find it on Right Wing Media.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I find it ironic that people that don't believe in global warming try to smear all scientists that have solid reasoning and evidence as being financially motivated, when in fact the only scientists not to agree with global warming have been funded by major corperations trying to fight enviromental regulations. This is the oldest political tricks in the book. Political parties funded by large major corperations accuse legitimate unbiased science of doing exactly the shady underhanded stuff they are doing, and put all of their resources into doing it. Then they get their bought politicians and media talking heads behind it and alas you end up with doubt when their is no scientific reason for their to be any. This is another example of the whole sports mentality people in this country take towards politics. People pick a party or a term like liberal/conservative and back virtually anthing the leaders and mouthpieces of their side/team says. In this case if you take all of your political leanings out of it, and look at it from a non biased viewpoint, I find it impossible to argue that what we are doing isn't affecting the overall temperature of the planet.
I did not use ANY air conditioning in my home thus far. Anyone else going without?
My home is relatively cool in summer but this year it was too hot and I needed the AC. On cool nights I open the windows then shut them before 9 or 10am, to keep the cool night air inside. I've grilled and grilled or nuked dinners (something I never do) just to keep from heating up the kitchen.
I'll be so glad when the snow flies... On a brighter note...Only 3 months till Killington opens!!!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I did not use ANY air conditioning in my home thus far. Anyone else going without?
Not us! Using a/c at home and car. My grandparents were hard working immigrants who came here so their family and offspring could have a better life. I won't disappoint them.
You need to be having this discussion with the inventors, manufactorers and businesses that sell the stuff. We went from washing clothes by hand, to ringers to automatic washers and driers. From no tv's to 3 plasma's in most households. No phones to cell phones. Wood stoves to gas/electric stoves + microwaves. Walking to horseback to gas fueled cars + mass transit + air travel. From rowing boats to gas powered boats/yachts/cruises. From heating/cooking w/ wood to drilling for oil. From waiting for the spring thaw, to shoveling to gas powered snow blowers + snow plows. From candle light to electric grids. And let's not forget 'computers'.
They call this progress.....yes?
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
I'm wondering why we don't see air conditioning units coming with a solar panel to run them. It seems feasible, doesn't it? What surprised me this summer is that we haven't had power outages due to usage.
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NEWSFLASH: It will be hot next summer too! US scientists found that the UN "panels" prediction of a 3 degree increase in the world temperatures in 20 years is totally wrong. No increase. 
