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A Better Rotterdam
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As an HR manager that has hired alot of Guyanese I can vouch for them as dedicated hard working people. Unfortunatly they have had little effect on changing the culture of violence that has reigned on Hamilton Hill for years by the people that were already there. In my opinion Hamilton Hill is still the most dangerous place in the capital district, it's a shame it's located so close to Rotterdam.
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I think the Guyanese who moved to the Hill were kind of misled about the area. A lot of bad areas don't appear that dangerous in broad daylight, just maybe kind of shabby. Especially if you don't see them first in summer.
Ten years ago was probably the last time I was over there. I used to move about freely in all areas of the city, in daylight at least, but now I would caution anyone not to do so.
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It is always good to have the criminals isolated so say the liberals, however- ut-oh- they spread out all over the county now!


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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As an HR manager that has hired alot of Guyanese I can vouch for them as dedicated hard working people. Unfortunatly they have had little effect on changing the culture of violence that has reigned on Hamilton Hill for years by the people that were already there. In my opinion Hamilton Hill is still the most dangerous place in the capital district, it's a shame it's located so close to Rotterdam.


I bought a home on the Hill in Oct of 1984 and by the summer knew it was a big mistake. The problem even though we are a working family and not on any assisstance we still are low income and the house we bought was a good price (it had been on the market awhile and vandals had broken in many times) and it needed alot of repair.

But we had needed a  place to live and at that time with the mortgage and taxes it was less than paying rent. Well as many know in the city with the huge increases in property taxes that is not true anymore.

Most can tell a Guyanese home because they keep their properties immaculate and have those wonderful fences etc. I think what happened is they were offered incentives and now are having to pay the high taxes like everyone else and are feeling the pain.

As for the people allready there that would include my family. The problem is not the families that have bought homes and live in them and try to keep up the property and live peaceful lives, its the influx from NYC , the drugs and gangs.

The other problem IMO is there are too many people who just "hang out on the streets" all day with nothing to do as they don't have to do anything.

As for hamilton hill being so close to Rotterdam when I was a child growing up on Hullet St  Hamilton Hill was actually one of the nice neighborhoods and when my grandparents moved to Hulett St. it was VERY nice.

As for the crime statistics I didn't need to see a story in the Gazetto  
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The Guyanese were lured here by cheap housing. Soon after arriving they figured out there are no jobs and the DEM assessor/City Council are tax crazed. They fixed up their properties and got whammed by the Stratton reassessment. Since then there has been a mass return to Queens.

     This has collapsed City housing prices since long time residents have no one to sell to. With the vacancy rate at 11.5% Citywide {and worse in HH and Mt P} you would think that the all DEM City government would have a plan. Nothing. Just like their invisible anti-crime, anti-gang plans. Ignoring the problem is not a solution.
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Quoted from benny salami
The Guyanese were lured here by cheap housing. Soon after arriving they figured out there are no jobs and the DEM assessor/City Council are tax crazed. They fixed up their properties and got whammed by the Stratton reassessment.


It's such a slap in the face! The City needed taxpaying homeowners who took pride in their property. People move in, pay their taxes, improve the area and then the City slams them with outrageous assessments. Well, that's because the City would rather have Downtown businesses not pay anything at the cost of over-taxing homeowners and ignoring the safety of the neighborhoods.

The City leaders have abused the homeowners long enough. It's time to end the bloated assessments, end the hand outs to connected developers and get money back into the neighborhoods...that's where ALL the tax money is coming from anyway!!
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It was also a slap in the face to longtime Hill residents who were fleeing when the city showed, briefly, more concern for new arrivals than for families that had been here for generations. This was not bigotry, for people to get upset over something like that. Now that the Guyanese have been here awhile they are seeing what it is really like for the citizens. The city government doesn't care about any of its residents, equally.
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The Guyanese got a hard slap of DEM working together works where the sun doesn't shine. The entire corrupt DEM house is collapsing. No money, no new immigrant groups to fleece, no one to sell to and no jobs. The taxpayer handouts to the "arts", to nonprofit goody-goodies, City lobs driving to work in City cars from Lake George, all must end.
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I agree 100%.  When the Guyanese started coming in, there was a great improvement to the Hill area.  The old run down houses started looking nice.  The streets were cleaner of garbage.  Some of the blocks were looking new again.  This also pushed out some of the crime.  But then the crime was spreading to other neighborhoods.  Where I was living in Bellevue, it was quiet and nothing happened.  Mostly single family homes and a handful of rentals.  Now those rentals became homes to drug dealers and partiers that could care less about the neighbors.  Racing cars up and down the streets, breaking into cars, causing damage to homes and loud parties all the time.  Day and night.  The house next door was abandonded and the older kids would break into the basement to party.  Then they started to break down the fence and attempt to break into my house.  They were caught in my basement several times.  The basement door was located inside the closed in porch downstairs.  There was even a time when we were going to work and there was someone sleeping in our front closed in porch!!!  Of course we moved.  There are new tenants living there and the downstairs neighbor told us they party all the time and he has had the cops there several times to break up fights.  
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Quoted from rpforpres

As for hamilton hill being so close to Rotterdam when I was a child growing up on Hullet St  Hamilton Hill was actually one of the nice neighborhoods and when my grandparents moved to Hulett St. it was VERY nice.



The hamilton hill referred to by rotterdam....is the crane street/mt pleasant 2nd hamilton hill!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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Quoted from A Better Rotterdam
As an HR manager that has hired alot of Guyanese I can vouch for them as dedicated hard working people. Unfortunatly they have had little effect on changing the culture of violence that has reigned on Hamilton Hill for years by the people that were already there. In my opinion Hamilton Hill is still the most dangerous place in the capital district, it's a shame it's located so close to Rotterdam.


Schenectady is the home of TWO hamilton hills. The one closest to rotterdam is the one off of altamont ave.....it's called MT.PLEASANT!!! Ya don't wanna walk through there at night either!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Again ---  certain crimes are up  (over the past 10 years) ...   larcenies, burlaries      
               certain crimes are down (over the past 10 years)...   murders, rapes

Law Enforcement agencies (local, state and federal) are working together to get a handle on the situation -- as evidenced by the multi-agency operation that broke up the drug trafficking gang a few weeks back.

No one - certainly not me - has said that the job is complete.   However, I do believe that because of the greatwork by and cooperation between our District Attorney, Sheriff, municipal police chiefs and their awesome team of officers  - we are seeing improvement .. and will see more improvement in the months and years ahead.


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.   However, I do believe that because of the greatwork by and cooperation between our District Attorney, Sheriff, municipal police chiefs and their awesome team of officers  - we are seeing improvement .. and will see more improvement in the months and years ahead.


One raid in all the dem mayor's years and you call that great?    What are you smoking?


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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The real crime is that the GOP in Washington and those right in town  (like Hugh Farley) couldn't give a damn about  neighborhoods like Hamilton Hill.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

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The real crime is that the GOP in Washington and those right in town  (like Hugh Farley) couldn't give a damn about  neighborhoods like Hamilton Hill.


Al J had THE BIGGEST raid of all time in the city..

Tell us what you dems do for the neighborhoods?????    Tell us DV, what have your dems done for the roads??????     Tell us what have they done for trash collection----wow, YOUR DEMS double taxed the homeowners.    Tell us what your dems havc done for the neighborhoods?   What have they done about vacant budlings??????   DV, look at Eastern Ave---there are two houses opposit the old firehouse that still sit there.  One of them had a fire, DV, A WHOPPING 11 YARS AGO.....and what do YOUR DEMS do for the neighbors????????   FORCE them to live with that!   What have your dems done?????  The ONLY thing they have done is RAISE THE TAXES to one of the highest taxes in the whole damn country--they raise the taxes on the financially struggling homeowners to give it to millinaires.

DV, tell us WHY can't the billionaire Paul Mitchell pay his own property tax bill downtown?????
Tell us why the billionaire Hiltons can't pay their own property taxes on the Hampton Inn
Why can't Proctors pay taxes, hell,. they brought in $5 MILLION from one show alone, but the people with incomes of $30,000 must pay?
Mallozzi, Galesi and Golub are FILTHY RICH MILLIONAIRES.....explain WHY can't they pay their own taxes....why must their taxes be paid by low income people????

You CLAIM to be a Catholic.   What would Jesus do?????    Would he make the poor pay for the rich?   Would he take money away from the poor, put them  have to choose between paying taxes or getting medical care, and give the money to the rich?   Well??????    Answer?


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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