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Obama wants $1 trillion in taxes on top of what he's already signed.



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Keep in mind that Mr. Obama has already signed the largest tax increase since 1993. While everyone focuses on the Bush tax rates that expire after 2012, other tax increases are already set to hit the economy thanks to the 2010 Affordable Care Act. As a refresher, here's a non-exhaustive list of ObamaCare's tax increases:

• Starting in 2013, the bill adds an additional 0.9% to the 2.9% Medicare tax for singles who earn more than $200,000 and couples making more than $250,000.

• For first time, the bill also applies Medicare's 2.9% payroll tax rate to investment income, including dividends, interest income and capital gains. Added to the 0.9% payroll surcharge, that means a 3.8-percentage point tax hike on "the rich." Oh, and these new taxes aren't indexed for inflation, so many middle-class families will soon be considered rich and pay the surcharge as their incomes rise past $250,000 due to tax-bracket creep. Remember how the Alternative Minimum Tax was supposed to apply only to a handful of millionaires?

Taxpayer cost over 10 years: $210 billion.

• Also starting in 2013 is a 2.3% excise tax on medical device manufacturers and importers. That's estimated to raise $20 billion.

• Already underway this year is the new annual fee on "branded" drug makers and importers, which will raise $27 billion.

• Another $15.2 billion will come from raising the floor on allowable medical deductions to 10% of adjusted gross income from 7.5%.

• Starting in 2018, the bill imposes a whopping 40% "excise tax" on high-cost health insurance plans. Though it only applies to two years in the 2010-2019 window of ObamaCare's original budget score, this tax would still raise $32 billion—and much more in future years.

• And don't forget a new annual fee on health insurance providers starting in 2014 and estimated to raise $60 billion. This tax, like many others on this list, will be passed along to consumers in higher health-care costs.


There are numerous other new taxes in the bill, all adding up to some $438 billion in new revenue over 10 years. But even that is understated because by 2019 the annual revenue increase is nearly $90 billion, or $900 billion in the 10 years after that. Yet Mr. Obama wants to add another $1 trillion in new taxes on top of this.

The economic ironies are also, well, rich. Mr. Obama is now pushing to reduce the payroll tax by two-percentage points for another year to boost the economy, but he's already built in a big increase in that same payroll tax for 2013. So if a payroll tax cut creates jobs this year, why doesn't a payroll tax increase destroy jobs after 2013?

Mr. Obama is also touting spending cuts he's willing to make in entitlements in return for bigger tax increases, yet the spending increases built into ObamaCare aren't even up for discussion in the debt-limit talks. The Affordable Care Act adds more than 30 million more Americans onto Medicaid's rolls, when that program is already growing by 6.5% this year. So Mr. Obama is willing to cut current entitlements on grounds that they are unaffordable, but he's taken what may be the most expensive entitlement off the table.

We think this was the President's spend-and-tax plan from the very first. Run up spending and debt in the name of stimulus and health-care reform, then count on Wall Street bond holders and the political establishment to browbeat Republicans into paying for it all. He apparently didn't figure on the rise of the tea party, or 1.9% GDP growth and 9.2% unemployment two years after the recession ended.

Last November Republicans won the House and landslide gains in many states in large part because of the deep unpopularity of the stimulus and ObamaCare. Mr. Boehner has a mandate for spending cuts and repealing the Affordable Care Act. If Republicans instead agree to raise taxes in return for future spending cuts that may or may not happen, they will simply be the tax collectors for Mr. Obama's much expanded entitlement society.
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All I can say is OMG!!!!!


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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A Taxing Experience
Obama... by comparison "Reagan The Taxer!"
  In 1982 Ronald Reagan signed into law not one but two major tax increases. The Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act (TEFRA) raised taxes by $37.5 billion per year and the Highway Revenue Act raised the gasoline tax by another $3.3 billion.

According to a recent Treasury Department study, TEFRA alone raised taxes by almost 1 percent of the gross domestic product, making it the largest peacetime tax increase in American history. An increase of similar magnitude today would raise more than $100 billion per year.

In 1983, Reagan signed legislation raising the Social Security tax rate. This is a tax increase that lives with us still, since it initiated automatic increases in the taxable wage base. As a consequence, those with moderately high earnings see their payroll taxes rise every single year.

In 1984, Reagan signed another big tax increase in the Deficit Reduction Act. This raised taxes by $18 billion per year or 0.4 percent of GDP. A similar-sized tax increase today would be about $44 billion.

The Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985 raised taxes yet again. Even the Tax Reform Act of 1986, which was designed to be revenue-neutral, contained a net tax increase in its first 2 years. And the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1987 raised taxes still more.

The year 1988 appears to be the only year of the Reagan presidency, other than the first, in which taxes were not raised legislatively. Of course, previous tax increases remained in effect. According to a table in the 1990 budget, the net effect of all these tax increases was to raise taxes by $164 billion in 1992, or 2.6 percent of GDP. This is equivalent to almost $300 billion in today's economy (in 2003 dollars).


Reagan, the hero of Conservatives everywhere raised taxes in 1982,'83, '84, '85 '86, & '87.  Leaving the first and the last years of his presidency the only years he DIDN'T raise taxes.


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Don't care who did what and when they did it!! They are all to blame for the shape this country is in now. It has been in the making for decades! The two party system has failed and needs to be changed and I think the generation-x young adults will make an all out effort to change it!!

The truth of the matter is.....here we are today in 2011.......Finding the best solution is the task at hand. This country can not continue on the path it has been on for decades.


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Tax bills in 2009 at lowest level since 1950:

(USA Today)
http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/2010-05-10-taxes_N.htm


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First Obama is running against George W Bush, NOW he is digging up Reagan to sell his tax increases.  

Can't the past 2 1/2 years of his record stand by themselves?   He should be campaigning on what great prosperity he brought to American since the promises of "hope" and "change".


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First Obama is running against George W Bush, NOW he is digging up Reagan to sell his tax increases.  

Can't the past 2 1/2 years of his record stand by themselves?   He should be campaigning on what great prosperity he brought to American since the promises of "hope" and "change".


Bill O'Reilly: We Need A 1% Tax Increase...






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Tax bills in 2009 at lowest level since 1950:

(USA Today)
http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/2010-05-10-taxes_N.htm


That's because we are running a $14 TRILLION deficit!  The Federal Government is mortgaging future generations to pay for TODAY'S government spending WITHOUT raising taxes.  Not to mention, we inflated our dollar by printing BILLIONS to borrow off the Federal Reserve to pay for government obligations.  So even though our tax bills may seem lower, the purchasing power of our dollar decreased and the price of commodities increased.  It's an indirect TAX.

That's what government can do when they issue currency.  They maniupulate the currency to indirectly tax you through inflation.  Then they'll change the inflation formula to indicate there is little to no inflation.  

People aren't listening to the professional pundits anymore, they are looking at their household budgets and their eroding savings.  Go to the supermarket or put gas in your car and compare that to this time last year.  There's no pundit that can convince people any different.


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Bill O'Reilly: We Need A 1% Tax Increase...


Bill O'Reilly is a BLOWHARD!  I don't care what Bill O'Reilly thinks.


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A 1% national sales tax will hurt the people who can least afford it.
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A 1% national sales tax will hurt the people who can least afford it.

And will help the people that can MOST AFFORD IT.

What else is new... the Republicans are the party of the Rich.



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If that is true Box then why does Obama want to, and has already raised taxes?
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If that is true Box then why does Obama want to, and has already raised taxes?


As far as I know, Obama has not proposed a National Sales Tax.


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Congress just talked about a VAT tax but nothing ever became of it. There are taxes hidden in the health-care bill and a few of the new regulations that have been written in the last couple of years.
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