Quoted from Cicero: At least somebody recognized the facetiousness of my post
Whew! Thank goodness. I thought that we had lost you Cicero to the progressive socialists who run the City of Schenectady and the county. I've read so many proposals for government intervention in every aspect of our lives, that I have become reflexively defensive. I'm relieved to know that you haven't gone over to the dark side.
When it comes to architecture, old isn't necessarily bad. And the two-family homes appeal to the young families starting out, as well as the families with a parent they need to look after. There are places where even three-family (triple decker) homes have been gentrified. What the city needs to do is stay out of neighborhood design. I have said before and I say again, when you see a lot of demolition and construction with government involved, it is a sign of a money grab by the connected. Let the city and county officials take care of the work they are supposed to be doing. They aren't developers. What good did Canal Square do? Or that stupid tower that now houses Lotto? These projects were supposed to "save" Schenectady, in their time. Why do or leaders, with all their scorn for "high-density" housing, want to build just that at ALCO? People have different ideas about what appeals as far as housing, but trying to turn Schenectady into Clifton Park is foolish. If you only like single family suburban style housing you would just buy in the suburbs. Do something about the crime and high taxes and those who prefer urban style living will come to the city.
When it comes to architecture, old isn't necessarily bad. And the two-family homes appeal to the young families starting out, as well as the families with a parent they need to look after. There are places where even three-family (triple decker) homes have been gentrified. What the city needs to do is stay out of neighborhood design. I have said before and I say again, when you see a lot of demolition and construction with government involved, it is a sign of a money grab by the connected. Let the city and county officials take care of the work they are supposed to be doing. They aren't developers. What good did Canal Square do? Or that stupid tower that now houses Lotto? These projects were supposed to "save" Schenectady, in their time. Why do or leaders, with all their scorn for "high-density" housing, want to build just that at ALCO? People have different ideas about what appeals as far as housing, but trying to turn Schenectady into Clifton Park is foolish. If you only like single family suburban style housing you would just buy in the suburbs. Do something about the crime and high taxes and those who prefer urban style living will come to the city.
It is time to start replacing the old housing and commercial buildings in other neighborhood with new, modernand energy-efficient structures.
Yeah, and charge the financially struggling homeonwers, huh? Where the HELL do you get these lame brain decisiosns?
Of course, your "tax the existing homeonwers" And of course, your UTTERLY STUPID idea means ONE THING AND ONE THING ONLY!!!!!! Tax the existing homeowners even more money in order to pay some political crony demolition company to demolish the houses, and then after that, pay some rich politically connected developer to build some socialist housing.
DV, the old theater, Proctors, be demolished and replaced with a new modern energy efficient structure rather than the taxpayers paying for air conditioning?
How about your 100+ year old ornate church building be demolished and replaced with a new modern energy efficient structure?
Yes DV, demolish all of the Stockade, those are old buildings. Screw the historic crap. THose people cannot even replace their windows with energy efficient windows. Completely demolish the Stockade, how about that? Oh, you would probably favor that as long as the taxpayers footed the bill to pay some rich politically connected developer
DV will come out with the most lame brain, utterly stupid ideas.....and he is merely brown-nosing the dems in a desparate attempt to get an endorsement to get an easy high paid job so he can sit around doing nothing and get paid for it. Currenly he sits around and doesn't get paid for it.
Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent. Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
If anything the many 100 + year old 2 family homes (many of which are in detiorating condition) should be replaced with newer single family homes -- the older buildings that are worth saving .. should be saved .. but I don't see too many of them in Mont Pleasant or similar neighborhoods. Even the commercial structures in Mont Pleasant are obsolete --- and that was something that was mentioned in at least 2 studies conducted after 1980.
HUH? WHAT? WHO IS GOING TO DO THAT AND WITH WHO'S MONEY???? HOW IS THIS GOING TO HAPPEN? BECAUSE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IT, IT WILL THEN MAGICALLY COME TRUE? WHAT "STUDIES" WILL SOLVE THIS REALITY: THE BOTTOM HAS FALLEN OUT OF THE CITY AND THE MAKERS HAVE BEEN REPLACED WITH THE FAMOUS DEMOCRAPIC ORIENTED TAKERS!!!!
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If anything the many 100 + year old 2 family homes (many of which are in detiorating condition) should be replaced with newer single family homes -- the older buildings that are worth saving .. should be saved .. but I don't see too many of them in Mont Pleasant or similar neighborhoods. Even the commercial structures in Mont Pleasant are obsolete --- and that was something that was mentioned in at least 2 studies conducted after 1980.
Yep, replace the well built houses with new houses made using that sheet rock from China that people were getting sick from, correct DV?
DV, just because I PROVED to you that virtually idential houses outside of the city are worth far more and taxed less than in Schenectady, now you have this lame brane idea of replacing high quality well constructed houses with low quality.
Again, DV proves his ignorance, proves is lack of intelligence. You don't take houses that are made of high quality, demolish them, and build new low quality cheap houes. You don't demolish houses with the REAL hardwood floors and build new houses with the cheap imitation wood.
Rather DV, the correct thing to do is to stop making homeowners pay the taxes for your rich politically conneted cronies. By making the milliionaires pay their own way, STOP the tax give-aways, the homewners will then have the money, their own hard earned money, to fix their own houses up.
DV, you don't have a clue, do you, as to WHY many houses are in deteriorating condition????? How about you need another lesson. It''s called over taxed homeonwers.
Tell us, since when do you think homeowners can afford to pay for the metroplex projects, and then pay the taxes for the millionaires and still have money to fix up their own homes? Huh? Can you tell us how financially struggling homeonwers can have money to pay for both?
No, dV, you are so very very wrong. Your dem buddies need to STOP STEALING from the homeowners. Keep the money in the hands of the homeonwers, start providing vital serivces to the NEIGHBORHOODS, and home values will increase, and people will have money to fix up their own homes.
You obviously don't have the inteligence to know that it IS possible for someone to buy a seriously deteriorating 300 year old house, it could be a house ready to collapse, but it can be fixed and restored. But a person CANNOT do that when the government steals from that person, and the government gives the homeowners to milliionaires.
Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent. Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
$250,000 for a 40 YEAR LEASE! That's a lousy $6,250 a year to the oppressed County taxpayer. Another County give away from "Commissioner" Death Ray for a connected millionaire developer. Another 100% tax give away? This does absolutely nothing about the charge back problem. County resident are still going to go to HVCC which has excellent engineering and science courses. Not cooking and "arts". Hey Death Ray what happened with Mexican Radio, Wolf's 1-11 and that crepe place? Keep spreading the manure in a wind storm.
Its starting..... Couldnt imagine owning a rental unit in the Stockade paying those high taxes. About to lose 260+ tenants with about 120 more to follow.
Construction begins on $11M housing complex for SCCC [b][/b].The Business Review by Michael DeMasi, Reporter Date: Wednesday, November 2, 2011, 2:45pm EDT - Last Modified: Wednesday, November 2, 2011, 4:02pm EDT .
Work has officially begun on Schenectady County Community College .Schenectady County Community College Latest from The Business Journals Bullock on short list for top spot at Ohio community collegeSCCC’s Bullock will know if he’s been picked president of Ohio college in 2 monthsSCCC’s Bullock a finalist to lead Stark State College in Ohio Follow this company .’s $11 million housing complex being built across the street from the school.
Interest in the project is high on campus, said Michael Uccellini, president of United Group .United Group Latest from The Business Journals United Group in Troy pursuing foreign investors for M student housing project in FloridaGreen elements more common as prices dropUnited Group eyes next phase of Troy project Follow this company .of Cos., the project’s developer.
United, based in Troy, opened the leasing office on Nov. 1, greeted by more than 70 SCCC students interested in learning about the housing.
Uccellini was among the officials who attended a ceremonial ground breaking today for the project, College Suites @ Washington Square.
A notable no-show was SCCC President Quintin Bullock. Bullock, who is a candidate to lead a bigger community college in Ohio, is traveling this week, said Denise Murphy McGraw, chairwoman of SCCC’s board of trustees.
She said “nothing has been decided” when asked whether Bullock has been offered the job at Stark State College in North Canton, Ohio.
United Group anticipates strong demand for the 264 beds at SCCC when they are ready for occupancy in August 2012—the first off-campus housing available to SCCC’s 6,000-plus students.
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The United Group has built or manages more than 3,000 student housing beds, including the newly opened 184-bed College Suites @ City Station in downtown Troy, and has more than 2,000 in the construction pipeline.
More than 70 percent of the beds at City Station have been leased, just two months after opening.
In Schenectady, the company worked with SCCC, city and county officials and the Schenectady Metroplex Development Authority .Schenectady Metroplex Development Authority Latest from The Business Journals Schenectady officials today mark end of M improvement project on upper Union StreetMadison Handbags’ Schenectady operations will bring 40 new jobsGE’s 0M solar plant to be built in Colo., not NY Follow this company .on a 40-year lease for land across Washington Avenue from the college. The lump-sum payment is $250,000.
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Farley shuns Center City move citing expense, inconvenience .
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#Schenectady County — Schenectady County Community College officials say the institution is facing a pleasant problem — it is too successful.
#Enrollment at SCCC continues to rise as new courses and programs are offered, but the space on the college campus can’t hold the increased activity. This led SCCC officials on a search for a new space to utilize so offerings can continue to expand. The new Center City building was tapped to offer the college’s new Certified Nursing Assistant program and also host courses in criminal justice, business and computing. SCCC President Quintin Bullock presented the proposed 2011-12 budget to the Schenectady County Legislature on Monday, Aug. 1, which totals $26,256,842 and is a 9 percent increase, or around $2.17 million, compared to the previous school year’s budget.
#“We are very excited about what we have established this year,” said Bullock. “It has been a very successful year for the college. We have had very strong enrollment. We’ve launched new programs and we are preparing to expand our programs as well as our presence in Center City. The budget is very tight and will allow us to continue the work that we are doing at the college.”
#The increased budget doesn’t ask for a greater contribution from the county, because the county’s contribution for operating expenses will remain at nearly $2.1 million. The college is increasing its fund balance usage by $43,417 and totals $267,308. If all of the appropriated fund balance were used during the upcoming school year the college’s fund balance would be at approximately $4.1 million or 15 percent of the 2011-12 budget.
#Legislator Robert Farley, R-Glenville, was the first and only member to voice opposition to the college’s proposed budget. His main concerned focused on the college stretching off the campus to Center City, which it holds a five-year lease. He said the legislature previously rejected a move to Center City to offer classes for the music program, because of the distance students would travel. The previous move discussed was before Bullock joined the college.
#“You’re having an enormous increase and rental costs to go there,” said Farley. “There’s issues with going back and forth to classes from that facility.”
#This year the college launched a strategic plan, said Bullock, which includes steps on how the college will “strategically grow and expand its tentacles” into the community. An $11.2 million grant launched the CNA program at the college. Meetings and discussions were held at SCCC about the move, said Bullock, which resulted in support from the college community.
#“This program is supported. I do not anticipate any unknown opposition for the location of classes [at Center City]. It is not being forced upon anyone,” said Bullock. “We have a total of 78 classes that are scheduled and enrollment in those classes are strong. It appears it would be a successful launch, so it is a part of our plan for growth.”
#Legislator Gary Hughes, D-Schenectady, also a member of the college’s Board of Trustees, said the move to Center City will allow the college to offer courses when the main campus might not be open, such as time on Saturday and Sunday.
#Farley said he was concerned about scheduling problems with students changing classes from Center City to the main campus. Offering many programs at the facility also concerned Farley, instead of just offering one program.
#Bullock said the facility and division deans and chairs were included in discussions to cluster classes, so students wouldn’t need to run between campuses. The courses would be clearly identified as being offered at Center City when students and advisors are developing schedules for a semester.
#Farley still wasn’t sold on the idea of complications not arising. Due to the movement, said Farley, he was considering not supporting the college’s budget proposal.
#“I think that this is logistically going to be much more of a challenge and impediment to the students at your institution,” said Farley. “It is not like you are moving the entire culinary program there … where there is not going to be the overlap in some of the other classes.”
#Students at SCCC, said Farley, often can be economically challenged and those are the students needing the most help, so he was concerned about the budget increasing by 9 percent.
#Bullock said the costs of rent, security, janitorial services, staffing and operating costs for Center City total approximately 3.13 percent of the college’s proposed budget. Farley asked what the college is paying in rent per square foot, which Bullock said is $17.75 for rent and $4.50 for utilities.
#SCCC will be getting 47 percent of rental costs, which totals $361,000, paid for through state aid, said Bullock.
#Legislator Brian Gordon, D-Niskayuna, said he thought it was best to let the college determine what is best for the students it serves.
#“Basically, you’re unfortunately a victim of your own success,” said Gordon to Bullock. “I think it is beyond hubris for us to really meddle in your dealing and your scheduling … I think that we are going far above our boundaries to mettle in the internal affairs in that realm (of distance and scheduling).”
#Student enrollment is expected to increase by 3 percent in the fall 2011 and spring 2012 semesters, said Bullock, with an increase of 10 percent in the summer of 2012. The tuition for a full-time student (at least 12 credits) will cost $1,692 each semester in the upcoming school year, along with part-time students paying $141 per credit. The college’s high school program will cost $47 per credit.
#SCCC’s tuition does ring closely with two Capital District community colleges. Hudson Valley Community College will charge full-time students $1,850 for tuition and part-time students $154 per credit hour. Fulton-Montgomery Community College full-time student tuition will be similar to SCCC at $1,697 and part-time students will pay the same $141 per credit.
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Nice to see that even SCCC can manipulate State Aid funds to Metroplex for overpriced rental space in Center City.
So, the $361,000 in State Aid SCCC receives will go directly into Gillen's pocket for rental space in Center City? The college could have constructed a wing on a building for less than that!
Metroplex could NEVER survive simply being funded by taxpayer money - they now venture off and steal College State Aid. Quite the racket......
Since the Dorm. Bldg. will be located in a flood prone area, as it did flood with the recent storms, wonder how much the flood ins. bill will be. Who will be paying for this? Most likely will be hidden somewhere in the charge to reside at the Dorm. Bldg. Students bring your kayaks/rafts for quick evacuation like those folks in the Stockade. During the past flooding of that area by the college I believe Mr. Gillen in a related Gazette article took some credit for locating the classes at Center City saying they were spared any flood related inconvenience. So then why put the Dorm.Bldg. there in the proven flood area? Same applies to Alco Condo project. Being built in flood zone. Who pays the Ins. tab here as well?
Can someone tell me how a 265 bed student housing project costs $11 million to building yet the 200 proposed Glenville nursing home costs $50 million ? Thats à lot granite countertops.
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Can someone tell me how a 265 bed student housing project costs $11 million to building yet the 200 proposed Glenville nursing home costs $50 million ? Thats à lot granite countertops.
Duh -- nursing homes provide skilled long term care and include medical facilities, special equipment, etc
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Can someone tell me how a 265 bed student housing project costs $11 million to building yet the 200 proposed Glenville nursing home costs $50 million ? Thats à lot granite countertops.
Well, this is what happens when the County Leg decides to grant contracts to the connected few rather than hold a fair bidding process for the nursing home.
Chances are all the equipment is brand new - no chance anyone is shopping around for the lowest prices. Probably no concern of how much taxpayer money is being wasted because no one has done their due dillegence and crunched numbers, found deals, shopped around...no none of that happens when there is a $50 million taxpayer pot-o-gold.
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$250,000 for a 40 YEAR LEASE! That's a lousy $6,250 a year to the oppressed County taxpayer. Another County give away from "Commissioner" Death Ray for a connected millionaire developer. Another 100% tax give away? This does absolutely nothing about the charge back problem. County resident are still going to go to HVCC which has excellent engineering and science courses. Not cooking and "arts". Hey Death Ray what happened with Mexican Radio, Wolf's 1-11 and that crepe place? Keep spreading the manure in a wind storm.
